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GOP platform pushes amnesty
NJ.com ^ | 8/29/04 | Paul Mulshine

Posted on 08/29/2004 2:55:26 PM PDT by Afronaut

If there are any deluded souls out there who still believe George W. Bush is a conservative, I invite them to examine the 2004 Republican Party platform on the issue of amnesty for illegal immigrants.

Bush is for it. That makes him a liberal. Worse, he proclaims that the amnesty is not an amnesty. So he is not only a liberal, but a liar as well.

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bushamnesty; gwb2004; immigrantlist; immigrationplank; paulmulshine; rncconvention; rncplatform
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Including the owner of the forum which the Border Wedgies are squatting on, apparently.
341 posted on 08/29/2004 10:42:41 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Since you don't live here, it's none of your damn business. We're trying to elect someone who represents us. We don't give a flying whatnot what anyone else outside the district thinks about the matter.

Then keep your dismal little crybaby tales and disingenous schemes in the Arizona state forum, okay?

342 posted on 08/29/2004 10:43:02 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
"That breakdown, even if accurate, does not apply to the border issue."

Show me a poll.

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

343 posted on 08/29/2004 10:43:40 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: FITZ
"Then is the government deliberately allowing tons of cocaine and pot and heroin to come over from Mexico."

You think it was different when it was whiskey and wine?

344 posted on 08/29/2004 10:43:48 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Afronaut

It wont matter which party wins in the long run if Rove has his way and turns this county into a world state. Every amnesty immigrant by federal law will be allowed to vote thus diluting our votes in the long run should this party’s new platform be allowed to take hold and they win. Offering citizenship to every person the planet, suggests that US citizenship has no more advantage accept than being forced to pay taxes to the majority of the worlds workers so that only a few can benefit from cheep labor. Collecting taxes for more social services and diluting the political voice of the citizen is not a republic value, but then things have changed as amnesty being part of the platform does just that!

The illegal immigrants will work for nothing because their living expenses are being paid for (socialism is not a republican value), and they will vote solicits-republic in 2008 cause they are being offers amnesty in 2005, that is Roves grand plan. Slavery and plantations ended in the civil war, communism failed, but these geniuses planning the future of the republican party perhaps just forgot their history, how else can anybody explain such poor vision?

Unless this party turns back to its conservative base their own demise will be unstoppable regardless if we vote wisely. By the diluting of our votes from the registration of these new comers, every legal US citizen in the long run will have less and less representation and less and less of a political voice. Throwing away things (votes) that amount to nothing is justifiable; ...at least here in the southwest...


345 posted on 08/29/2004 10:43:58 PM PDT by seastay
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To: seastay
Kinda says it all, don't it?
346 posted on 08/29/2004 10:45:22 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
FY 2003 Border Patrol Southwest Border Apprehensions
Marine Inspector ^ | 08/13/2004 | Marine Inspector

Posted on 08/13/2004 5:26:15 PM EDT by Marine Inspector

FY 2003 Southwest Border Apprehensions by the US Border Patrol
California Arizona New Mexico Texas Totals
Country
Afghanistan 2 1 3
Albania 3 70 73
Algeria 1 2 3
Antigua - Barbuda 1 1
Argentina 27 17 5 56 105
Armenia 14 2 3 19
Australia 1 9 10
Austria 1 1
Bahamas 1 1
Bahrain 1 1
Bangladesh 2 11 13
Belarus 2 2
Belgium 1 2 3
Belize 13 1 1 23 38
Bolivia 15 5 4 17 41
Bosnia - Herzegovina 1 1
Botswana 1 1
Brazil 398 1,709 109 2,792 5,008
Bulgaria 4 2 5 11
Burma 5 5 10
Cambodia 1 1 2
Cameroon 2 1 3
Canada 10 2 2 12 26
Chile 7 7 5 46 65
China 109 31 10 136 286
Colombia 12 22 7 123 164
Costa Rica 9 100 5 54 168
Croatia 1 1 2
Cuba 11 22 13 44 90
Cyprus 0
Czech Republic 10 15 10 35
Czechoslovakia 2 5 7
Denmark 2 2
Dominican Republic 71 7 253 331
Ecuador 81 135 13 211 440
Egypt 1 6 7
El Salvador 752 1,188 209 7,198 9,347
Eritrea 1 2 3
Estonia 2 2
Ethiopia 2 3 4 9
France 2 4 7 13
Georgia 3 7 10
Germany 1 3 8 12
Ghana 1 2 2 6 11
Greece 1 1
Guatemala 543 1,530 396 4,489 6,958
Guinea 3 3
Guinea - Bissau 1 1
Guyana 1 14 15
Haiti 2 7 1 10 20
Honduras 344 818 243 12,436 13,841
Hungary 3 2 5 3 13
India 12 4 11 59 86
Indonesia 8 2 3 11 24
Iran 7 1 1 4 13
Iraq 4 1 1 2 8
Ireland 2 1 5 3 11
Israel 17 1 9 20 47
Italy 4 1 2 2 9
Ivory Coast 5 5
Jamaica 7 8 5 22 42
Japan 5 2 7 14
Jordan 3 11 14
Kazakhstan 1 1
Kenya 1 1 31 33
Korea, North 1 1
Korea, South 16 17 8 25 66
Kyrgyzstan 1 1
Laos 1 1 2 4
Latvia 2 2
Lebanon 3 2 6 11
Liberia 1 5 6
Lithuania 3 1 4 8
Macedonia 24 24
Malaysia 1 3 3 7
Mali 1 1
Mexico 202,559 396,373 47,356 219,561 865,849
Mongolia 2 2
Morocco 2 1 5 8
Nepal 1 3 4
Netherlands 1 1 4 6
New Zealand 2 1 1 4
Nicaragua 18 44 4 622 688
Nigeria 1 1 1 23 26
Norway 2 2 4
Pakistan 1 5 34 40
Panama 1 3 1 4 9
Paraguay 2 1 7 10
Peru 25 49 10 146 230
Philippines 24 2 8 24 58
Poland 13 112 6 19 150
Portugal 1 1
Qatar 2 2
Romania 3 1 10 14
Russia 5 2 4 11 22
Saudi Arabia 2 2
Senegal 1 2 3
Sierra Leon 1 1
Slovakia 12 1 1 1 15
Slovenia 1 1
Somalia 1 1
South Africa 1 1 6 8
Spain 4 2 1 4 11
Sri Lanka 3 3
St. Kitts - Nevis 1 1
St. Lucia 2 2
Sudan 1 3 4
Sweden 1 1
Syria 1 1
Taiwan 2 1 1 4
Tanzania 2 2
Thailand 1 2 3
The Gambia 1 3 2 6
Togo 1 1
Tonga 1 1
Trinidad and Tobago 1 4 5
Turkey 7 3 6 16
Uganda 2 2
Ukraine 9 2 1 5 17
United Kingdom 3 1 5 10 19
Uruguay 5 2 7 14
Uzbekistan 4 4
Venezuela 2 8 1 41 52
Vietnam 3 1 1 31 36
Western Sahara 3 3
Yemen 1 1 5 7
Yugoslavia 1 1 1 31 34
Zambia 2 2
Zimbabwe 2 2
Total 205,178 402,335 48,561 249,007 905,081
Total OTM's 2,619 5,962 1,205 29,446 39,232


347 posted on 08/29/2004 10:46:24 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
It would truly help you cause if you stopped the hysterical hyperbole; there were over 900,000 apprehensions of illegal aliens attempting to cross the Southwestern border illegally in Fiscal 2003. That figure does not take into account apprehensions at the Canadian border, airports, or sea ports.

I wouldn't want to go there, Luis. Don't know if I saved the article, but Hutchinson or Bonner openly admitted they only catch maybe one in five. Think it was on Lou Dobbs' show. ICE's record for interior enforcement is even less favorable.

348 posted on 08/29/2004 10:46:52 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: Barlowmaker

Good night, Mr. Fufkin.


349 posted on 08/29/2004 10:48:02 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: Howlin
Then they need to look for another forum to post that crap on; this one is supporting Bush for re-election.

Towards the bottom of the home page:

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350 posted on 08/29/2004 10:48:41 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl

Mind you, that's ONLY apprehensions by the Border Patrol, and ONLY in those States listed.

It doesn't take into account the interceptions at sea by the US Coast Guard, and what apprehensions happen elsewhere in the nation.


351 posted on 08/29/2004 10:49:00 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

See ya Arator.


352 posted on 08/29/2004 10:50:04 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Then it certainly undercuts the mindless hyperbole about the border being wide open and no one doing anything to stop the misdemeanor border crossings.
353 posted on 08/29/2004 10:50:33 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: JackelopeBreeder

The poster is yammering about unenforced borders, Marine Inspector's numbers paint a picture of something other than uninforced borders.

One in five?

More guessing?


354 posted on 08/29/2004 10:51:28 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Check out this 'golden oldie'.

Who are we? Free Republic is a loosely organized group of grassroots Americans who support our Constitution and look for honesty, integrity and honor from those in government. Like millions of Americans, we are fed up with our out of control federal government. Therefore, we are working together to roll back decades of liberal/socialist public policy and eliminate the waste, fraud, abuse and corruption pervasive in Washington today.

We also call for the strengthening of our military and defenses; the effective control over illegal immigration and smuggling; the paying down the national debt; and strict control over federal agencies like the CIA and the FBI


355 posted on 08/29/2004 10:52:55 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: F16Fighter
Me? I'll hold my nose and vote for the guy.

Hey! That's what I did last time. I bought the sob story about giving him a chance to plug the border. yada, yada

356 posted on 08/29/2004 10:54:41 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: Afronaut

I can't stand that Bush hasn't responded to the illegal immigrant issue and that our borders are wide open...but then again, what's the alternative? sKerry and "Silky Pony"?


357 posted on 08/29/2004 10:55:02 PM PDT by wayne_shrugged
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Was the government watching tons of that stuff come over too? The border is watched in some places which is good but the policies are very lax in general, you rarely have to show an ID at either type of border check-point and very few cars or trucks are checked.


358 posted on 08/29/2004 10:55:37 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Did you have to work overtime to get that stupid, or does it just come natural to you?


359 posted on 08/29/2004 10:56:04 PM PDT by tame (Beware of La Raza sounding RINOs!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

I'm am a great Googler, and I failed to find one single quote from Hutchinson saying that we only stopped one in five illegal aliens trying to cross the border.

I'd like to see your source.


360 posted on 08/29/2004 10:57:10 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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