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Is a Terrorist Army Massing in the U.S.?
MichNews ^ | 08-28-2004 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 08/28/2004 6:49:37 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus

Is there is an invisible army of terrorists gathering in America today? The mainstream media and the Bush administration do not want to talk about it.

In July, Defense Watch reported that, in Arizona, an area called the Naco Strip has become a primary route of illegal entry by “significant numbers of Arab-speaking males.” It took a small town weekly newspaper, the Tombstone Tumbleweed, to reveal that, “males of possible Syrian and Iranian descent have been detained in the past few weeks.” Since October 1, 2003, 5,510 illegal aliens designated “Other Than Mexican” (OTM) have been apprehended while crossing the Arizona terrain. These OTM’s are not here to pick vegetables, mow lawns, pluck chickens, or wash cars.

Just do the math. If only five Muslim terrorists crossed the border every day for a year that would add up to 1,825 people ready to do the bidding of Osama bin Laden. If this has been going on for just the years since 9-11, that’s an army of 5,475. Then, too, there are an estimated 2.9 million Muslims in America. Extremists, worldwide, are estimated to be about ten percent of the overall population. Applied to the U.S., that represents a potential 290,000 American Muslims sympathetic to the Islamist cause. No matter how you slice and dice the numbers, it suggests that a substantial threat exists and is exacerbated by the failure to stop terrorists at our borders.

They constitute a virtual army of terrorists who, if not apprehended, could create a day of havoc from coast to coast when al Qaeda gives the signal. When that day comes, remember that you read about it here first.

Or, as some argue, there’s no proof that any al Qaeda operatives have crossed the border. If, however, any were captured, normal counter-terrorism procedures would be to deny this and seek to extract information from those in custody.The 9-11 operatives were here thanks to sloppy immigration procedures and, in the case of illegal aliens, the estimates are that eight to twelve million live among us. That is a huge margin for error.

The topic the Bush administration wants to stay away from until after November 2, Election Day is immigration. Some have called the Bush administration immigration policies “schizophrenic”, but they are not. They are globalist, i.e., the views of someone for whom national borders should be regarded as outmoded while we all join hands in one big, global neighborhood.

One can understand the “schizophrenic” label, given the hue and cry about Bush’s so-called unilateralism and willingness “to go it alone”, but this is the same administration that supports a variety of policies that are globalist, most of which come straight out of the United Nations. The way civics is taught in our schools today is designed to create generations of globalists for whom our national sovereignty and the Bill of Rights are just a bunch of 18th century “ideas.”

There are a number of problems with this see-no-evil immigration policy. On August 10, Jerry Seper of the Washington Times, reported that, under President Bush’s guest-worker program, “Millions of illegal aliens in the United States would be free from arrest and deportation, have access to tax-deferred savings accounts and Social Security credits, and get unrestricted travel to and from their home countries.” This constitutes a massive dollar transfer to Mexico.

Homeland Security Undersecretary, Asa Hutchinson, responsible for the nation’s borders and transportation security, has apparently lost his senses. In a recently reported response to questions from the Senate Judiciary Committee, Hutchinson supported the Bush immigration policies while acknowledging that the “incentives” being offered illegal aliens are generous to a fault. The National Border Patrol Council that represents 10,000 of the non-supervisory agents called the guest-worker plan a “slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States."

In January 2004, the Mexican government acknowledged that the number of their people entering the US illegally had increased 66% from 1990 to 2002. Naturally, Mexico’s president, Vicente Fox, wants Bush to grant de facto amnesty to an estimated eight to eleven million illegal aliens already working in the United States, the majority of whom are Mexican. Amnesty and any other program of this nature is simply a reward for breaking the laws of the United States of America. There are even some voices suggesting they should be given the right to vote!

One little discussed cost of the open door policy being pursued by the Bush administration is the increase in the cost of law enforcement where illegal aliens gather in numbers. Right now, according to Seper, “About 80,000 illegal criminal aliens, including convicted murders, rapists, drug dealers, and child molesters who served prison time and were releases, are loose on the streets of America, hiding from federal immigration authorities.”

They don’t have to hide that hard. According the figures for 2002 from the former Immigration and Naturalization Service and from US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, more than 375,000 known illegal aliens have been ordered deported, but have disappeared pending immigration hearings. Lee Boyd Malvo, the sniper who terrorized the Washington area, was one of them.

Recently, Brazil agreed to step up the policing of the Triple Border Area with Paraguay and Argentina. According to a Washington Times editorial, “It has long been identified as a fund-raising, training and procurement haven for diverse terrorist groups, including al Qaeda and Hezbollah.” The ease with which terrorists could be infiltrated into the US from these South American strongholds cannot be underestimated.

When the facts are examined, there are few good reasons to permit the massive daily influx of Mexicans and other illegal aliens, but there is one very good reason to shut it down completely.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; alqaeda; asahutchinson; border; bushamnesty; caruba; homelandsecurity; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; islam; jihadinamerica; muslims; terrorists; wot
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To: Jim Robinson
I know it's your forum, but your glib sarcasm on this very serious topic is inappropriate and unworthy of you, IMHO.
421 posted on 08/29/2004 5:31:17 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

How deep is that bunker in your back yard? I want to get a good idea from an expert where to stop digging, otherwise I might hit the water table.


422 posted on 08/29/2004 5:32:21 PM PDT by asgardshill (The Republican's best weapon lies midway between John Kerry's nose and lower chin.)
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To: potlatch; Jim Robinson
" Apparently Jim Robinson didn't enjoy it as much as you and I did!!"

Jim doesn't have a lot of patience with contrary FReepers at election time, but in all fairness to Jim, I think we all get pretty tense and testy coming up on an election, espeically one that is so critical with so much at stake, and none of us wants to see a replay of 2000. I tend to try and relieve the stress with humor. It helps preserve my sanity. I think Jim is more inclined to relieve stress by crispy frying posters who delight in mashing his buttons. Can't say as I blame him though. If I had the power of ZOT, I might do the same thing. I imagine it could be a powerful stress reducer.

423 posted on 08/29/2004 5:42:34 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: iconoclast

Please read my WHOLE post.


424 posted on 08/29/2004 6:19:44 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: FITZ

Good idea about the Mexican prisons...after extended time in one of them the illegals might be longing for home in the Middle East.

I wondered if this would work: have an underground, electric fence running the length of north and south borders. Like the "invisible fence" people have to keep their dogs in the yard. (I think it gives a "shock" if an animal tries to cross over.)

The fence would cover all land except at the few heavily-guarded stations where legal immigrants would be allowed to come in.

Our smart U.S. engineers could develop a tamper-proof system (I don't have the details--I'll let them figure it out.)

I know it would take a lot of backhoes, but hey, it would give some Americans some work.

This may be the best idea yet!




425 posted on 08/29/2004 6:21:12 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: Joe Hadenuf
After all, there are no illegals in Arkansas either

Depends on the meaning of "illegal." X42, Traitor-in-Chief, stops there every once in a while.

426 posted on 08/29/2004 6:21:39 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Jorge
Even if this "army of terrorists" could sneak across the border, I don't believe such huge numbers of illegals could communicate and meet to plot this attack without being detected or giving themselves away.

Hey, Jorge, Al Caruba was not suggesting that they would run over to Ft. Bliss, get uniforms, form up, and march across America shooting at civilians in ranks 10x30.

His suggestion is that we now have about 250 groups of 20--that would mean about 1,000 airplane crews (by 9/11 standards) in the country.

427 posted on 08/29/2004 6:25:40 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Bookmark for manana.


428 posted on 08/29/2004 6:28:26 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: asgardshill
I want to get a good idea from an expert where to stop digging, otherwise I might hit the water table.

If you hit the water table, I'd say your head is buried deep enough.

429 posted on 08/29/2004 6:28:51 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: janetgreen
He was right, the name calling by overly enthusiastic Bush supporters does nothing but alienate their fellow voters.

You're not being objective. There are insult hurlers on all sides and they all alienate their fellow voters.

I have been a Republican for most of my life. I always believed the GOP stood for smaller government and less intrustion into people's lives and pocketbooks.The GOP has veered so far to the left that I don't recognize it anymore...

Federal spending as a percentage of GDP has been the same give or take a few percentage points for many years. Look at the numbers under Reagan, they are no different.

...and will take my vote elsewhere no matter what the insult-hurlers say.

The majority in this country likes big spending -- they voted for either Gore or Nader in 2000. Your vote elsewhere will only lead to more spending by the Democrats. I will vote for the most conservative candidate in the Republican primaries and I will then vote for the Republican candidate against the Democrats who are much worse.

430 posted on 08/29/2004 6:31:07 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: 4Freedom
Name a specific plank of the Constitution Party's platform that you have a problem with, or do you agree with everything they stand for and just object to who they are?

The problem in this country is not the Republican party. The problem is the electorate that seems to want BIG government.

How do you expect to elect a candidate on the Constitution party's platform, if you can't even get a majority of the electorate in the 2000 presidential elections to vote for the Republican candidate and platform?

431 posted on 08/29/2004 6:35:00 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: jpsb
...maybe, CP members should think about joing the R.P. and helping out.

Good idea.

432 posted on 08/29/2004 6:37:01 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
The majority in this country likes big spending -- they voted for either Gore or Nader in 2000.

Hey, if that's the case, you ought to go to the GOP and suggest the President create more social program and spend more money. No doubt this would result in a landslide for the President.

433 posted on 08/29/2004 6:38:10 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: sweetliberty
I tend to try and relieve the stress with humor

I do too sweetliberty. I'd rather feel like this
Than this!!

434 posted on 08/29/2004 6:40:23 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
The majority in this country likes big spending -- they voted for either Gore or Nader in 2000.

Hey, if that's the case,...

If?? Are you saying that Both Gore and Nader combined didn't get a majority of the vote?

435 posted on 08/29/2004 6:42:14 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: potlatch

Very nice profile page!


436 posted on 08/29/2004 6:44:08 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: FreeReign

Well then , you ought to go to the GOP and suggest the President create more social program and spend more money. No doubt this would result in a landslide for the President


437 posted on 08/29/2004 6:45:01 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: ninenot
Hey, Jorge, Al Caruba was not suggesting that they would run over to Ft. Bliss, get uniforms, form up, and march across America shooting at civilians in ranks 10x30.

Hey ninenot, neither was I. (what a coincidence)

His suggestion is that we now have about 250 groups of 20--that would mean about 1,000 airplane crews (by 9/11 standards) in the country.

And all 5,000 illegal immigrants are going to blend in like the Body Snatchers for years as they communicate with the secret code so nobody will detect the master plan until Osama gives the signal!
ROFL!

438 posted on 08/29/2004 6:45:16 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Joe Hadenuf
suggest the President create more social program and spend more money

Bush does well enough without our helpful suggestions. There is No Child Left Behind--either here OR in Iraq.

439 posted on 08/29/2004 6:45:20 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: iconoclast
Our immigration scandal goes waaay beyond your knee-jerk blame of Clinton.

It's not a "knee jerk" reaction. While I can't put the entire burden of the situation in Clinton's lap, I do know that he supported programs to enable thousand of people from Somalia to enter as "refugees" during his watch. And they are still here, feeding off of our tax dollars. And they are all Muslims.

When is the last time a person of Hispanic origin waged a terrorist attack on our country?

440 posted on 08/29/2004 6:45:59 PM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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