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Russian Air Disaster Was Suicide Attack, According to U.S. Sources
ABC News ^ | August 27, 2004

Posted on 08/27/2004 9:41:16 AM PDT by Dog Gone

Wreckage of a Russian Tu-154 airliner
Wreckage of a Tu-154 airliner is seen at a crash site near Gluboky in the Rostov region some 600 miles south of Moscow, Tuesday, Aug. 25, 2004.
(Sergei Venyavsky/AP Photo)
— Suicide bombers, in precision attacks, destroyed two Russian domestic airlines, which killed 90 people Tuesday, U.S. sources told ABC News.


Traces of explosives found in one of two downed Tupolev planes match explosives used in the 1999 bombing attacks of Moscow apartments by Chechen separatists, according to two U.S. government sources.

These sources told ABC News that according to reports received by U.S. investigators in Moscow, suicide attacks are now being viewed as the most probable cause for the destruction of the planes.

U.S. government sources confirm that investigators in Russia have a "very high degree of certainty" that "martyrs," or suicide bombers, were involved in the attack.

The highly sophisticated explosive RDX — also known as cyclonite or hexogen — is a military explosive with very limited commerical use.

In what Russian sources are calling "Russia's 9/11," Sibir Airlines' Tu-154 and Tu-134 jets went down within 20 minutes of each other after taking off from the same Moscow airport Tuesday night.

Unidentified Chechen Women on Board

Although Russia's Federal Security Service, known as the FSB, has been cautious about calling Tuesday's attacks the work of terrorists, Russian media reports have indicated otherwise.

The ITAR-TASS news agency reported today that, according to air traffic controller sources, the Tu-154 signaled three times that it had been hijacked before it crashed.

The Russian Strana.ru news service reported that there was at least one Chechen woman aboard each of the planes, and that no one has come to identify or claim their remains.

Some of the remains of the Chechen woman on the Tu-154 were found in the plane's rear toilet, according to the report.

Chechen female bombers — known as "black widows" in Russia — have recently begun participating in major militant operations in Russia.

Chechnya's 'black widows" first shot into the limelight during the deadly October 2002 Moscow theater siege and have been responsible for several attacks since, according to Russian officials.

Tuesday's aviation disaster came days ahead of crucial Chechen presidential elections set for this weekend, and Russian security forces were on alert for terrorist attacks.

Web ‘Statement’ Claims Responsibility

The new findings follow a purported Web statement by an Islamist group taking responsibility for Tuesday's "operation."

In the statement, a group called the Islambouli Brigades said it had five mujahedeen, or holy fighters, on board each aircraft. It warned this act would be followed by others "until the killings of our Muslim brothers in Chechnya cease."

Russian security officials have refused to confirm or comment on the statement.

Although it is not known if the Islambouli Brigades has any link to al Qaeda, a group with a similar name claimed responsibility for last month's attempt to assassinate a senior Pakistani official.



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: chechnya; cyclonite; explosives; hexogen; rdx; russianplanes; suicidebombers
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To: zarf

grozny


21 posted on 08/27/2004 9:53:41 AM PDT by zarf
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To: jwalsh07

I think you're right about that. It seemed he was heading in that direction with the trip to Crawford...

Then again, we have to remember Russia's relationship with Iraq, whose fate was well-undecided at that point...


22 posted on 08/27/2004 9:53:56 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Netizen

There was something about giant spiders in Fallujah.


23 posted on 08/27/2004 9:54:15 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Netizen
Wasn't there a comment in the past few days about 'spiders'? I can't recall who said it, but thought it was in conjuntion with muslim extremists.

I recall that some mullah gave in interview to a Syrian media source about just that thing; was going to turn them loose on the Israelis as I remember. The story was posted on FR two or three days back.

24 posted on 08/27/2004 9:56:50 AM PDT by Mister Sophisticate
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To: Dog Gone
Found it.

Allah sending giant spiders to combat U.S.?

Sheik: Allah sent giant spiders to combat US (arachnids as big as a chair)

25 posted on 08/27/2004 9:57:28 AM PDT by Netizen (Abortion is not a choice -- it's murder. The only 'choice' is which method of birth control to use.)
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To: laconic

The Chechen woman blew herself up in the rear lavatory with an improvised explosive device smuggled aboard in her private areas.


26 posted on 08/27/2004 9:57:49 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Rutles4Ever
Putin was worried about the weapons and oil for food deals he made with Insane but he could have finessed that.

We need oil, he has oil. We have a jihadist problem, he has a jihadist problem. His economy needs new markets, our economy needs new markets.

Unfortunately Putins latent commie streak kicked in and poof, up in smoke. Some men are meant to be great, Putins not one of them.

27 posted on 08/27/2004 9:57:52 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (Donate to the Swifties, once again serving the nation selflessly)
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To: Dog Gone

Chechen = Muslim

The Rooskie response will be interesting.


28 posted on 08/27/2004 10:01:35 AM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: Dog Gone

How deep into that ABC article do we have to read before they mention ISLAMIC? The average person has no clue that so-called Chechen Separatists are radical Islamicists! And the MSM wants to keep it that way.


29 posted on 08/27/2004 10:01:43 AM PDT by LikeLight (__________________________)
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To: laconic
"And they found the remains of the Chechen terrorist in the rear toilet of the TU-154?"

They need to make the toilets bomb proof. Seems this is where these people hang out.

30 posted on 08/27/2004 10:02:31 AM PDT by TheLion
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To: Netizen
Allah sending giant spiders to combat U.S.? (They are really losing it over there)
  Posted by Leatherneck_MT
On News/Activism 08/27/2004 8:42:39 AM CDT · 58 replies · 1,451+ views


worldnetdaily.com ^ | August 27, 2004
An Iraqi sheik claims Allah sent giant spiders to the town of Fallujah to help its residents fend off attacks by U.S. military forces. Sheik Mahdi Saleh Al-Sumide'i spoke to Syrian TV on Monday, claiming several Arab television stations videotaped the helpful arachnids.

31 posted on 08/27/2004 10:04:50 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: All
Just wanted to address to all that commented about my query regarding spiders.

I haven't followed Fallujah, too closely and not sure about the Israeli comment but maybe all these spider comment/remarks means that women will be the main attackers and suicide bombers.

32 posted on 08/27/2004 10:05:34 AM PDT by Netizen (Abortion is not a choice -- it's murder. The only 'choice' is which method of birth control to use.)
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To: TheLion

All Islamic women should be given full body cavity searches prior to being allowed to board a plane. This is just a dry run for such an attack in the U.S. by female muslims carrying improvised explosive devices in their body cavities.


33 posted on 08/27/2004 10:05:42 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jwalsh07
Unfortunately Putins latent commie streak kicked in and poof, up in smoke. Some men are meant to be great, Putins not one of them.

Agreed. However, these attacks give him an opportunity to slide into line in the GWOT. Hopefully, he won't make tha same mistake twice.

34 posted on 08/27/2004 10:07:32 AM PDT by AngryJawa (The Original Grumpy Gen-Xer)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Remember also, that at least one of the set of 9-11 hijackers claimed to have a bomb.

That may be one way the terrorists assure 'destruction'--leader or all 5 have a bomb. If hijacking seems impossible, at least one detonates.


35 posted on 08/27/2004 10:07:37 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: jimbo123

I agree with you but we are too PC. It may yet come to that, however!


36 posted on 08/27/2004 10:07:57 AM PDT by TheLion
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To: TomGuy
That may be one way the terrorists assure 'destruction'--leader or all 5 have a bomb. If hijacking seems impossible, at least one detonates.

Makes sense.

37 posted on 08/27/2004 10:10:57 AM PDT by Netizen (Abortion is not a choice -- it's murder. The only 'choice' is which method of birth control to use.)
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To: jwalsh07
No doubt but had Putin allied with us in putting boots on the ground, he could have changed the world. He missed a huge opportunity

Have faith. It will happen. Winning hearts and minds is sometimes a slow process.

This is a big planet. It'll take time for the islamotrash to p*ss off all the appropriate folks.

38 posted on 08/27/2004 10:11:16 AM PDT by Freebird Forever (Diversity is divisive)
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To: jimbo123

An airport consultant this morning on FoxNews said that the necessary kind of chemical/explosive elements detection equipment is only available at 4 of over 400 airports.

This kind of explosive material, apparently, can be easily taken aboard planes.


39 posted on 08/27/2004 10:11:46 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: TomGuy

Onje of the Chechen women bought her ticket an hour before the flight and was the last person to board that plane. Forget technology, don't any of the security people at that airport have a brain in their head?


40 posted on 08/27/2004 10:13:57 AM PDT by mewzilla
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