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Posted on 08/26/2004 9:58:36 PM PDT by Chucky is a girlie man
Kerry campaign bussing in over 3000 people to make it look like he's got military support. Give them a freeper welcome. See directions and info at http://www.ncveteransforkerry.org/
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The Libertarians say that we are welcome as long as we don't rev motorcycles or chant Bush chants like "4 more years!".
The theme is anti-Kerry and pro-Liberty.
I wish you had that in poster size!
That's cool. I was planning on whipping up a "Kerry lied, while good men died" sign. I think that would fit the bill.
Bumping some of you again. Come on. We're joining the Libertarians.
Hope we get pics.....should be over by now...
We need an after-action report! :)
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Great pics! How many people showed up?
On our side, I think it was about 6 Freepers, 4 anti-Kerry Vets, and about a half dozen Libertarians. Guessing they had about 200-300?
WAY TO GO!
We all had a great time out there today. It was hot in that sunshine. I had some flip-flops that I had ties onto a fishing rod so that they could be seen in the air and TaxRelief had a pair on a pole she dug out of the trunk of her car. We had signs and the Libertarians were glad to see us I think. Without us they would have had about half the number of ralliers. We heard them start up across the street with the National Anthem. Then the speakers started. We couldn't actually hear much of what was said. They did try to make it a patriotic rally. At some point I noticed that little American flags on a stick were being passed out. I agree that they had somewhere between 200 -300 there and we were probably about 15 in number. They knew we were there after we chanted "Flip-flop" and sang the Flipper song (with some changes in the words). I got to meet another local Freeper, Clyde Asbury, and Bob's Babe who had been with us in Raleigh for the Rally for America. That's two local Freepers who can be of help around here. The fellow from Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry was there and really got John Kerry's minions going a couple of times. I want to try and find us some little plastic megaphones like the DC Chapter has. The pictures are being uploaded that I took today and sent to TaxRelief for uploading to FreeRepublic. I am very html ignorant. I only took about six of them. There were some Fayetteville police out there along the street but not many. I would say there were about 4 or 5 maybe that watched the street along the park. They were there mostly there to keep people from parking along the curb there. We got some thumbs down signals from some of the drivers and probably more who gave us a thumbs up. There were no one-fingered salutes that I saw. They knew we were there and I guess that's the point that we wanted to make.
The buses with 3000 people didn't materialize.
Great details!
Ha ha ha!
You forgot to mention that Sandusky was there in his crusty $99 dollar vest.
It was pretty amusing to see their huge audience of "3000" vets, was actually more like 60 Vets plus families (240-280 total). Approximately 40 of them raised their hands when Sandusky asked how many were "Navy".
You say it was a rally, but there was very little audience interaction. They took no questions and generated raucous applause perhaps 4 times, polite applause another 6 times. It was boring (We chanted BORING! BORING! to help the audience express their true feelings at the most monotonous parts.)
It was odd to see them talk at, rather than to, their audience, almost as if there was no one there at all. Perhaps we had a good dampening effect.
(The irony of the layout at Rowan park is that the stage is at the bottom of a "bowl". We protestors have learned that our yells carry into that "bowl" very effectively. Laughing with loud with "Ha Ha Ha's" really bugs 'em, for instance.)
Clyde Asbury suggested a sign that said "There is no health care crisis." It attracted some bewildered looks from the unlearned. When the event came to a close, one reporter specifically came looking for the creator of this particularly good point.
"Haven't you read the census report?" she asked.
"Which census report?" I queried.
"You know..., when they took the census in, in , in..."
I helped her out here. "Oh, you're wondering if I read the census data from 2000?" This was the perfect opportunity to explain to her that reports are simply manipulations of data, often in a manner that suits the political agenda of the manipulator.
"Ah," I said, offering her a small olive leaf, "You are concerned about the number of people without healthcare INSURANCE." She was immediately relieved to see that I understood her 'concerns'.
I quickly distressed her again by explaining the irrelevance of health insurance in the evaluation of the effectiveness of a health care system. "Are there unvaccinated children? Are there children with teeth falling out of their mouths? Are they dying from curable diseases?"
At this point the Libertarians joined the fray. "As a matter of fact," one of their adroit spokespeople reminded her, "I have just recently read that we actually have an OBESITY problem in this country." (Hee, hee! Good point, eh?)
DStarr then added that no one can be turned away from a hospital if they need treatment and that there is a Dept of Health in every community. (More good points!)
But she, the reporter, was relentless. She seemed to think that she was personally in charge of convincing FReepers that universal healthcare is vital to the continuance of America. Clyde Asbury politely explained that Universal Health care never works. She looked doubtful, so at this point it was time to lay it on the line. (As a Brit, I know first hand the horrors that exist in a society that is subject to a 'National Health System'.) I explained to her that we struggled through spending $36,000 to get an artificial hip for my Grandmother so that she could walk again, after being bound to a wheelchair for three years, while languishing on an NHS waiting list. (I should have also mentioned that we were forced onto a food budget of $60 per week, for four people, as a result, but she might not have even believed it.)
We tried to explain to her that government-run programs are doomed to failure. DStarr tried to explain to her that any who needs care can find a way to get it, without depending on inefficient government programs.
She scribbled notes into her little pad, furiously. Who knows? Maybe one day she'll put some of the pieces of the puzzle together. 'Til then she'll just go on believing that no one cares, except the government.
Some of the pics are up!
Thank you for the after-action reports! You all did a great job. The signs were great, too.
Maybe they had such a small turnout because so many Dims have headed up to New York for the strip ins.
Thanks again for doggin' the Dims. I know a few young Marines who certainly appreciate it.
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Thanks for the pics! You all did important work today, shining a bright light on the left-wing farce. As you all demonstrated, it's not a question of trying to match numbers with the professional agitators and hangers-on of the looney left, but rather, being there in sufficient numbers to provide comradarie to each other as you brilliantly excoriate the muddled half truths being propogated by the Kerry-yokels. Well done!
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