Posted on 08/26/2004 2:14:52 AM PDT by kattracks
CNSNews.com) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry's 1971 testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee reveals that the then anti-war activist admitted to writing many of the battle reports during his four months of combat in Vietnam.
Kerry told the committee on April 22, 1971, "...I can recall often sending in the spot reports which we made after each mission..."
Kerry also said that many in the military had "a tendency to report what they want to report and see what they want to see."
Kerry's comments about the battle reports came in response to a question from then Senator Stuart Symington (D- Mo.), who wondered about the accuracy of information from military sources.
According to the testimony , which is available in the Congressional Record, Sen. Symington asked Kerry, "Mr. Kerry, from your experience in Vietnam do you think it is possible for the President or Congress to get accurate and undistorted information through official military channels.[?]"
Kerry responded, "I had direct experience with that. Senator, I had direct experience with that and I can recall often sending in the spot reports which we made after each mission; and including the GDA, gunfire damage assessments, in which we would say, maybe 15 sampans sunk or whatever it was. And I often read about my own missions in the Stars and Stripes and the very mission we had been on had been doubled in figures and tripled in figures.
Kerry later added, "I also think men in the military, sir, as do men in many other things, have a tendency to report what they want to report and see what they want to see."
The 34-year-old testimony could shed light on the present debate over who wrote key battlefield reports that critics of Kerry say allowed him to win awards.
B. G. Burkett, author of the book Stolen Valor and a military researcher, calls the 1971 testimony "significant."
"What is significant about this is [Kerry] is readily admitting that he often submitted reports and he is implying that he himself exaggerated in those reports," Burkett told CNSNews.com.
"We have no way of knowing specifically which documents Kerry composed; and of the the ones he did compose -- did he in fact exaggerate or outright lie in those reports? That is the issue here," Burkett said.
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The controversy about who authored the now controversial after-action reports arose earlier this week, when the Washington Post obtained the military records of Larry Thurlow, one of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Thurlow's military records indicated that enemy fire erupted after Kerry's boat was hit by a mine explosion on March 13, 1969.
Thurlow now insists there was no enemy fire that day. The best selling new book by John O'Neill and Jerome Corsi, Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry, details the groups' critique of Kerry. Kerry has denounced the book and the Swift Boat vets and accused them of being an affiliate of President Bush's re-election campaign.
Thurlow and Kerry were each awarded a Bronze Star for heroism on that 13th day of March. Kerry also received his third Purple Heart as a result of the events of that day.
At the center of the controversy is whether or not there was enemy fire during Kerry's rescue of James Rassmann from the Bay Hap River. Kerry and Rassmann and others say there was enemy fire, while Thurlow and other swift boat veterans insist there was not.
Thurlow's own Bronze Star citation states that there was "enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire" directed at "all units." But Thurlow believes his citation was based on Kerry's own account of the day.
"I am convinced that the language used in my citation ... was language taken directly from John Kerry's report," Thurlow said earlier this week. "John Kerry was the only officer who filed a report describing his version of the incident," Thurlow added.
The Washington Post summed up the controversy this way: "Much of the debate over who is telling the truth boils down to whether the two-page after-action report and other Navy records are accurate or whether they have been embellished by Kerry or someone else."
Burkett believes that Kerry stated the controversy surrounding his war record.
"Kerry thought that he could make a grand presentation of his combat record, and there would be no response, obviously, from the Republicans, considering the lack of military experience on that side of the aisle," Burkett said.
"I think [Kerry] completely misjudged the anger of Vietnam Veterans collectively and their ability to organize and have an answer to John Kerry," he added.
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FYI ..
More of Kerry's words coming back to Haunt him
Oh, here's a neat little research project for a journalist (haha). I wonder if anyone can search old Stars and Stripes issues, and cross reference them with Kerry's missions in '68, and see if they:
A. Really did report on his missions
B. Really did exaggerate the totals, by comparing the relevant documents from Kerry's records (those that are available.
Might be interesting....
Exactly what the SwiftBoat Veterans for Truth have been saying all along.
Thanks, Michael. That jives with what I thought and with common sense. I agree with you that an Annapolis graduate and former clerk to a Supreme Court Justice has probably got lots more arrows in his quiver.
Can't wait to see what emerges next.
Just a professional politician in his early years!
Did you hear the former Bush campaign lawyer last night on CNN (I think)?
He dusted it up pretty well with Chris ?? the media moderator. He was blasting the media about their bias pretty hard.
I think the DNC and Kerry will come to regret that this guy is no longer busy working on the Bush campaign and will devote fulltime to the Swift Vets.
The voice, yes -- that was so striking to hear again, after all these years, and to note how affected it was.
You miss the key point about the voice, however -- he was affecting the Kennedy voice, which all ambitious Massachusetts democratic politicians did in those days.
As someone who lived in Mass at that time, I can tell you that it became comical at times -- you'd hear a politician speak and realize -- NOBODY except a politician speaks with that accent.
It became, in effect, not an accent so much as a mark of ambition, and a signal that you were willing to join the democratic club.
I think Kerry's decision to go to Boston College Law School was part of that implicit 'signaling' -- for Mass Dem politicians, BC has more "democrat" bona fides than Harvard, although Harvard carries more weight in the legal world.
A friend of mine was a Special Forces officer on missions to assassinate Viet Cong officers. Whenever anyone in his squad was smoking dope and he found out, they were taking to a shed and the living daylights were beat out of them by this officer. His men loved him! No doper was going to get them killed.
This seems like it's easily verified, or perhaps it's another provable lie.
Someone wasn't manning the radar when the dems decided to pose Kerry as a war hero.
I've seen Ginsberg in other venues.....he's just awesome.
f-ing bump
Gosh !! It seems hard to believe that in WW11 they probably wrote about Audie Murphy in Stars and Stripes, but in the Viet Nam war, Stars & Stripes would leave out the heroic exploits
of schrapnel & War medal MAGNET kerry.....(how will the CHILDREN learn about him ???)
The SBV's neatly poked a hole in kerry's careful staging of his Viet service which he calculatedly plotted long ago in preparation for a prez run.
When he made his first run for office, he established so many different residencies in separate Cong districts to position himself for the best race, the joke was he needed a real estate agent, not a campaign manager.
I found this page from the PBS series The American Experience, and reading the transcript, it is remarkable how similar Lindbergh's views of WWII (as they are presented here) are to those of Pat Buchanan.
If sKerry so easily misjudged this, think how easy it would be for the UN, France, etc. to ensnare him in their webs of deceit.
Prairie
He sold out to North Korea back then .. How do we know he won't sell out again
Next time Kerry brings up the UN, I hope someone points out how effective the UN has been in Darfur.
bttt
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