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GOP debates 'unity' plank in platform
USA Today on Yahoo ^ | 8/25/04 | Richard Benedetto

Posted on 08/25/2004 10:01:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Republicans will try to project a moderate image at their national convention next week through prime-time speakers such as California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites) and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani.

But the platform on which GOP candidates will run this fall is shaping up to look decidedly conservative, reflecting the views of President Bush (news - web sites) and the party's base.

Efforts to insert more moderate language on controversial issues such as abortion and same-sex marriage into the 95-page statement of party principles begin Wednesday when the Republican Platform Committee opens two days of hearings in Manhattan. Supporters of broadening stem cell research, less-rigid immigration rules and statehood for the District of Columbia also will push for platform language supporting their cause.

But most efforts are expected to fall short. And some moderate interest groups seeking changes appear less strident in their demands than they have been in past years.

"We have an incumbent president hanging on to re-election by his fingernails. Even hard-core moderates don't want to hold a bloody dagger over his head," says Ann Stone of Republicans for Choice, a group that supports abortion rights.

So instead of trying to remove the anti-abortion plank from the platform or insert language in support of homosexual rights, as they have tried and failed to do in the past, Republicans for Choice, Log Cabin Republicans (news - web sites) and the Republican Youth Majority are seeking to insert a "unity" plank.

It states that the party recognizes that while some Republicans may not agree on all planks, their views are welcome in the GOP. It specifically mentions "abortion, family planning, and gay and lesbian issues" as points of contention. The groups will also ask that the platform take no position on same-sex marriage.

"With so many moderates speaking at the podium, the party should be willing to acknowledge our existence in the platform," says Christopher Barron of the Log Cabin Republicans, a group that supports gay and lesbian rights.

Colorado Gov. Bill Owens, co-chairman of the Republican Platform Committee, says the document will have language recognizing that "diversity is a strength" and that there is room in the party for many differing views. But whether the "unity" plank is included will be subject to debate, he says.

Phyllis Schlafly, of the anti-abortion Eagle Forum, opposes inclusion of any new language on abortion, no matter how innocuous. "If they are able to get that in, it will be reported as Bush diminishing his support for life, and that will hurt him," she says.

Two big questions hang over the hearings: Will moderate GOP activists go away mad if they don't get what they want, projecting an image of an inflexible party badly split? Or worse, will some defect and help swing the vote for Kerry in several tight battleground states, such Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan?

Sen. Bill Frist (news, bio, voting record) of Tennessee, the Senate majority leader and co-chairman with Owens of the Platform Committee, says those seeking changes will get a chance to express their views in public meetings today and Thursday. But in the end, he says, majority will rule.

"Not everyone is going to agree on every single sentence or principle in the document," Frist says. "But by being open and transparent and fair, we hope people will feel good about the final product."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; cheney; conservatives; debates; dubya; edwards; election; gop; gwb; gwb2004; kerry; moderates; plank; platform; rncconvention; rncplatform; unity
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1 posted on 08/25/2004 10:01:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
But in the end, he says, majority will rule.

Which means that the platform will remain conservative.

Too bad the leadership doesn't have the courage of our convictions, though, on the podium.

2 posted on 08/25/2004 10:05:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: NormsRevenge

W's gonna win. All the signs are moving in his direction, IMHO. I'm glad the platform stays conservative.


3 posted on 08/25/2004 10:11:11 PM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: NormsRevenge
Liberal-lite seems to be a popular position among spineless "Republicans", but is in many cases stupid and indefensible.

If a Democrat proposes spending $100,000,000 on some new program, either one should decide that the program is good and fund it, or one should explain that it's stupid and refuse to support it in any way whatsoever. Funding it for $25,000,000 is the dumbest possible move, but it's the one all too many "Republicans" seem to favor.

Even if the immediate effect of conceding $25M for the program would be to have it get budgeted $50M instead of having the Democrats force the full $100M over one's objections, the concession would still not be a good thing. After all, if one opposes the program entirely, it gets the full $100M the first year, and it bombs, one will be in a good position to advocate killing it. By contrast, if one conceded that it was worth funding for $25M, and the program bombs with a $50M bundget, the program's sponsors can argue that it would have done better with more money, and its budget should therefore be increased.

The fact of the matter is that many popular government programs are fundamentally harmful, and would be harmful even if taxpayers didn't have to fund them. A politician who argues over how much money such programs should receive will look "cheap" and will have a much weaker moral platform than one who can argue that the progam is fundamentally evil. Unfortunately, politicians invariably make the wrong arguments.

The ultimate irony, though, is that when politicians try to dodge accountability by supporting "Democrat-lite" proposals, they really end up setting themselves up for blame when things go wrong; if they were to take responsibility by opposing bad programs, doing so would actually absolve them of blame when the programs failed to work as advertised.

4 posted on 08/25/2004 11:03:28 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: supercat
Republican pols running on liberal lite lose to Dems running on same platform. Yet these are the same people who "think" that they are the "back-bone" of the Republican Party and are the same ones who were really embarassed about Reagan's adamant conservative stands and said so, at least in private circles which circulated in elite D.C. circles and ran regularly in the print in the 80s.

Mostly, these gutless wonders only hang out in the liberal North East and West Coast circles. Fortunately, most of the dinosaurs are getting around the bend, age wise, i.e. Gerald Ford, et al.

5 posted on 08/25/2004 11:22:31 PM PDT by zerosix
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To: NormsRevenge
incrementalism. Today a "unity" plank. Tomorrow support for forced sodomy in the schools (for any child that is unexplicably missed in the abortion mills that is).

These RINOs are trying to turn the GOP into democrats.

6 posted on 08/26/2004 8:05:00 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: EternalVigilance
Too bad the leadership doesn't have the courage of our convictions, though, on the podium.

Read the article. The election is very very close. The President has the base right now, he needs the swing voters.

YOU apparently would rather keep the base 100% happy than win the election.

7 posted on 08/27/2004 3:10:36 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: NormsRevenge; EternalVigilance; RockinRight; supercat; zerosix; John O; Howlin; PhiKapMom; ...
You all know there's the approximately 30% of the electorate that stood firmly behind Bill Clinton through thick and thin, and has stood just as firmly against George W. Bush - most of them even after 9/11. That leaves 70% of the votes possible for Bush to receive in this election, and we all know the election is pretty close.

Several things I'm seeing right now scare me, and I'm not telling you these things to be depressive or "rain on the parade", but to say that we need to be fighting for every single vote right now, unless President Kerry sounds good to us.

Yesterday I heard Robert Reich on the radio, opining that the Federal Reserve Board would attempt to throw the election to Kerry by raising interest rates yet again to further slow the economy. The program was "Marketplace" on NPR, and you should be able to find an archive on the website and listen yourself.

I received an email from a friend a couple of weeks ago. She was entirely shocked by the number of Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers she was seeing - on the cars on a USMC base. My brother in Iraq reports that the "porta-pottie" poll is neck and neck. Those two things really surprised me, although I have no reason to doubt those sources, you may doubt my reporting of them since I have no documentation to back it up.

Actual polls also show the election very close. I'm hoping that the convention next week will give the GOP a big boost. The SwiftVets have definitely dragged Kerry down a bit. However, we also know that conditions in Iraq and here at home are shakey and could be subject to a Madrid-like event or "October surprise" that could determine the election.

According to all the polls I've been able to find, 40-50% of the electorate describe themselves as moderate. The point is, the President is hoping that the base is stable (sometimes reading here I wonder), and trying to draw in the swing voters (moderates) needed to clinch the election. Some of you seem to want him to scare them off.

Unless we want President Kerry, we're going to need some of those moderates, RINOs, independents, etc. voting on our side in November. We can't scare them off and we can't tell them they aren't needed, because they are.

Sorry this is long, and since I don't have time to proofread, I hope it's coherent. This is the time to work for the President. The time to move the party further right will be after the election, assuming we win it.

8 posted on 08/27/2004 3:48:01 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Amelia
YOU apparently would rather keep the base 100% happy than win the election.

Purists always do. Don't forget the mantra: a "real" conservative, when placed on the ticket, wins big every time.

9 posted on 08/27/2004 3:59:03 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Amelia
YOU apparently would rather keep the base 100% happy than win the election.

And YOU have the mistaken notion that conservative American principles somehow repels voters.

10 posted on 08/27/2004 5:07:44 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: John O
Today a "unity" plank. Tomorrow support for forced sodomy in the schools (for any child that is unexplicably missed in the abortion mills that is).

Got hyperbole?

11 posted on 08/27/2004 8:18:29 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (My dad can tell you about shrapnel, Mr. Kerry. Nice book jacket, btw, you leftist freak.)
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To: John O; supercat; zerosix

New York 2004

Kinder, gentler, we must be
Conservative values we can't allow
The watching world to see

Courage of convictions lost
Just shut your mouth
You're not the boss

Keynote speaker: a DemocRAT
It's fitting this year
Anyone can see that

Liberal speakers abound
But a conservative voice
Almost cannot be found

We must be compassionate, they say
I wonder if they'll remember
To salute the flag or even pray

Innocent life, that's not our thing
We're here to have fun
At our Big Apple fling

Bold vision for our country's need
The shining city on a hill is dark
Windows shuttered, no light can be seen

Republicans we are, at least in name
It could have been a landslide
But we had to play the media's game

EV


12 posted on 08/27/2004 10:36:03 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: EternalVigilance

Keep your day job.


13 posted on 08/27/2004 1:02:08 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: NormsRevenge
It states that the party recognizes that while some Republicans may not agree on all planks, their views are welcome in the GOP. It specifically mentions "abortion, family planning, and gay and lesbian issues" as points of contention. The groups will also ask that the platform take no position on same-sex marriage.

Well, call me optimistic, but I feel okay about Owens', Schlafly's, and Frist's replies here.

14 posted on 08/27/2004 1:10:29 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

Keep my day job? I didn't know poets made money! ;-)

Here's one I wrote today for a dear friend that you might enjoy...and then again, maybe not, who knows...


My Friend

You are more beautiful than the most beautiful flower
Your kindness to me is like a cool spring shower

Your laughter is like a melodious song
The joy that you give makes me hopeful and strong

Your smile lights the day like the sun in the sky
Your love dries my tears on the days that I cry

More precious than gold, or the gems when they shine
Your friendship is finer than the finest aged wine

My friend, you pick me up when I'm feeling low
You mean more to me than you will ever know

EV


15 posted on 08/27/2004 1:29:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

And one more...


Lonely Moon

Late summer, lonely moon
Cicadas sing their forlorn tune

A lover's moon this moon should be
But there's no one to care for me

The air is warm, but leaves me cold
Alone, my heart the night enfolds

The moon moves on its lonesome path
This season too will surely pass

EV


Now I'll stop...


16 posted on 08/27/2004 1:31:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: EternalVigilance
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17 posted on 08/27/2004 1:33:19 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

Ah, a critic with an axe to grind is a wondrous sight...


18 posted on 08/27/2004 1:38:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Newsflash, EV.

I realize you think you are BMOC right now, but in reality you aren't worth the effort to tap a keyboard; let alone grind an axe. I just have a bad habit of being tempted to comment on absurdity and silliness and............well, you figure it out.

19 posted on 08/27/2004 1:56:06 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis (newsflash)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

Oh, I have it figured out.


20 posted on 08/27/2004 1:57:08 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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