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Russian pilot sent hijack alert
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Posted on 08/25/2004 1:14:33 PM PDT by Shortwave

Date: August 26 2004

The pilot of one of two Russian planes that crashed almost simultaneously had sent a hijack alert, raising fears of a terrorist attack.

All 89 people on board the two passenger planes died.

(Excerpt) Read more at smh.com.au ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: hijack; russianplanes
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The Russians, so far, have emphatically denied that this is a result of terrorism. O.K. Put your Achems Razor hat on for a minute. All things being equal the most logical is correct. You are to tell me that two aircraft are going to crash almost simultaneously? The Russians! Some habits are hard to break!
1 posted on 08/25/2004 1:14:33 PM PDT by Shortwave
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To: Shortwave
The guy at the corner market (seriously) said he heard that when the first plane went down it took out the second plane because it was in the crash path or something. I have yet to hear that anywhere else, but I suppose it could happen.

Doesn't explain what happened to the first plane, tho.

2 posted on 08/25/2004 1:16:56 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Shortwave

Putin was KGB higher up. You'll be lucky to get any truthfulness from this comrade.


3 posted on 08/25/2004 1:18:07 PM PDT by mlbford2 (In TX, orange alert means releasing the safety on your shotgun)
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To: Shortwave

"All things being equal the most logical is correct. You are to tell me that two aircraft are going to crash almost simultaneously?"

As interesting will be to see how the american media treats this if the russians do deny anything bad happening, just accidents, etc.

I think some freepers greatly underestimate the ability of the media to doggedly tell a huge lie and stick to it, marginalizing all contradictory views. Given world events and the impending election in chechnya, if anyone here is able to 90% believe that these two crashes were accidents no matter what fantastic explanations are offered, they are more trusting than me.


4 posted on 08/25/2004 1:19:26 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: GSWarrior; Shortwave

> Put your Achems Razor hat on ...

One Russian airliner loss is usually an accident due
to incompetent maint, drunken pilot, overloading, etc.
Two within minutes raises Occam from his nap, and
suggests deliberate action.

> ... when the first plane went down it took out the
> second plane ...

Nope. Hundreds of miles apart.


5 posted on 08/25/2004 1:20:13 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: Boundless
I apologize for spelling Occam wrong.
6 posted on 08/25/2004 1:24:07 PM PDT by Shortwave (It's a grown up thing. Libs wouldn't understand.)
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To: Shortwave

I can't blame the Russians for wanting to cover this up. It would not only devastate their young economy, but have a rippling effect thru the rest of the airline industry.....looks like another TWA Flight 800 in the making.........


7 posted on 08/25/2004 1:24:17 PM PDT by Red Badger (Hillary has a Coke Bottle figure....3 LITER!)
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To: Shortwave

That must have been the Russian spelling......


8 posted on 08/25/2004 1:25:15 PM PDT by Red Badger (Hillary has a Coke Bottle figure....3 LITER!)
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To: Boundless

It doesn't seem to hold up. They didn't find the wreckage of the second plane until a day later.


9 posted on 08/25/2004 1:26:02 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Shortwave

These events could be the result of terrorism, or poor aircraft maintenance by the Rooskies. Tough to tell at this point.


10 posted on 08/25/2004 1:26:03 PM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: Shortwave

Achem is the Islamfascist terrorist spelling, isn't it?


11 posted on 08/25/2004 1:26:59 PM PDT by Valpal1 (The constitution is goiing to be ammended, the only question is by whom?)
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If it was terror and nobody claims to have committed it, then it won't serve its' purpose. So if we hear nothing over the next couple days, it probably was an accident. That's my reasoning, but I may be all wet too.....
12 posted on 08/25/2004 1:27:30 PM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: Red Badger

Flight 800? Huh? I was in the Coast Guard and read the report very carefully. I went to all the debriefs for the crash. It was not a terrorist act. That plane was mechanically doomed. Please, I beg you, don't reset Pierre Salinger!


13 posted on 08/25/2004 1:27:52 PM PDT by Shortwave (It's a grown up thing. Libs wouldn't understand.)
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If it's terrorism, doesn't one or more Muslim groups eventually claim 'credit' for it?


14 posted on 08/25/2004 1:29:16 PM PDT by xJones
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To: mlbford2
Putin was KGB higher up. You'll be lucky to get any truthfulness from this comrade.

That's only fair, I guess. The Russians are probably still laughing at the official explanation for the cause of the TWA Flight 800 crash.

15 posted on 08/25/2004 1:30:25 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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To: b4its2late

"That's my reasoning, but I may be all wet too....."

I don't recall AQ claiming responsability for the 9/11/01 hijackings for months afterwards. I personally believe that they have figured out that when governments CAN deny there was an attack/hijacking, they will, so the attacks have to be spectacular to for the involved government to concede it occured.

There was an egyptian air flight that the pilot suicided...could it have been terrorism?
There is considerable doubt about the flight tw800 investigation, and some about AA587.
If the shoe bomber on that transatlantic flight had been successful, would we ever have known it was terrorism?
Now two planes BLOW UP a few minutes apart, and we may actually be told it isn't terrorism. If so, expect the report of the hijack transponder code to quietly become an early error.


16 posted on 08/25/2004 1:33:42 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Shortwave

It was just an observation......the conspiracy theoristas will have a heyday with this....


17 posted on 08/25/2004 1:35:47 PM PDT by Red Badger (Hillary has a Coke Bottle figure....3 LITER!)
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To: Alberta's Child

This is very efficient on the Russia's part. Deny any link to terrorism one day after the crash and get it over with. By making the lie so obvious it doesn't seem as deceptive.


18 posted on 08/25/2004 1:47:48 PM PDT by TBall
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To: Shortwave

Achmed's Razor = If it looks like terrorism, it probably is terrorism


19 posted on 08/25/2004 1:52:00 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: xJones

Not always, no.


20 posted on 08/25/2004 1:52:30 PM PDT by mewzilla
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