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More U.S. Schools Segregating Sexes
AP on YahooNews ^ | August 24, 2004 | LIZ AUSTIN

Posted on 08/24/2004 3:12:29 PM PDT by OESY

DALLAS - For an increasing number of public schools, the formula for a better education requires a little arithmetic: divide the girls from the boys.

That's just fine with Kristielle Pedraza, a 13-year-old who says she will not miss the boys while she attends the Irma Rangel Young Women's Leadership School, Dallas' first all-girls public school and one of a growing number of such schools nationally.

"Usually it's the guys that distract all the whole class. They're usually the class clowns," said Kristielle, who entered the seventh grade last week. "With no guys in the school, I can know we will really get busy without much distraction."

At least 11 single-sex public schools will open this fall in six states — Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, South Carolina and Oregon.

Advocates say separating the sexes can improve learning by easing the peer pressure that can lead to misbehavior as well as low self-esteem among girls.

"John Kerry, George W. Bush, his father and Al Gore all went to all-boys schools. We don't think that's a coincidence," said Dr. Leonard Sax, a Maryland physician and psychologist who founded a nonprofit group that advocates single-sex public education.

"We think single-sex education really empowers girls and boys from very diverse backgrounds to achieve."

Some women's groups and the American Civil Liberties Union say segregation of any kind is wrong.

"We think segregation has historically always resulted in second-class citizens," said Terry O'Neill, a National Organization for Women vice president.

The number of U.S. public schools offering single-sex classes jumped from four to 140 in the past eight years, Sax said. At 36 of those schools, at least one grade will have only single-sex classes this year.

Advocates said they expect the number to increase now that the U.S. Education Department has announced plans to change its enforcement of the landmark discrimination law Title IX, which bars sex discrimination in schools.

"Many school districts wanted to offer this option, but they feared being sued by interest groups," said Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, a Texas Republican who fought for an amendment in the No Child Left Behind Act that encouraged districts to experiment with single-sex education.

The 126 seventh- and eighth-graders at the Dallas school will take pre-honors classes with a heavy emphasis on math, science and technology courses, which traditionally enroll fewer girls than boys.

Sax said separating the sexes allows teachers and administrators to focus on the different ways boys and girls learn. Girls, he said, learn better in quiet classrooms and intimate schools where they are on a first-name basis with their teachers. Boys learn better when teachers challenge them to answer rapid-fire questions and address them by their last names.

Single-sex schools also reduce the pressure to preen for boyfriends or girlfriends, Sax said.

"Single-sex schools, in ways that matter, are much more like the real world. Because unless you are a model or an actress, how you look is not the most important thing in your life," Sax said.

Roy Young, a former defensive back for the Philadelphia Eagles, founded Texas' first all-male public school in Houston four years ago. Today, Pro-Vision Charter School has about 100 students in grades five through eight. It combines aspects of the Boy Scouts, fraternities and the military.

One former student who was enrolled in special education when he came to the Pro-Vision Center in fifth grade is now taking college prep courses at his high school, Young said.

"If you added other dynamics to it, say male-female, I don't know if this kid would've ever came clean and came to us and said, 'Look, this is the problem I'm having. I can't read,'" Young said.

The new all-girls school in Dallas plans to add a grade every year until it becomes a seventh-through-12th-grade campus.

Kristielle's mother, Amy Pedraza, who has a clerical job with the district, was particularly impressed with the admissions process. Kristielle had to submit her grades and test scores, write an essay and go through an interview.

"She's getting all this experience," Pedraza said. "It's just awesome. I wish I could have been her age and doing the things that she's already doing."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Ohio; US: Oregon; US: Pennsylvania; US: South Carolina; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: education; gender; schools; singlesex
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1 posted on 08/24/2004 3:12:33 PM PDT by OESY
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To: Senator Kunte Klinte

I suppose it's OK as long as the schools are separate but equal. It all depends on who has the power to manipulate public opinion since principle doesn't seem to matter.


2 posted on 08/24/2004 3:13:06 PM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

This is where standardized tests come in. I am convinced that education of our boys would benefit from segregation.
It is emperative that standards be met. The tests will prove that the standards are being met. If not the school will be called to answer why not. The boys will not be acedemically distracted by their hormonal changes. I see it in my own son who CLAIMS that is isn't COOL to do well in school. If there were nothing but boys in the school would that be the norm?


3 posted on 08/24/2004 3:28:28 PM PDT by mistfree (Undocumented alien = Felon)
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To: mistfree

Goes both ways. Without the extra distractions, these students will all be able to concentrate more on academics, rather than who is "seeing" who.


4 posted on 08/24/2004 3:30:41 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: OESY

I think it's great for students.


5 posted on 08/24/2004 3:31:23 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The only thing we know about life is that we aren't going to get out of it alive.)
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To: OESY
"For an increasing number of public schools, the formula for a better education requires a little arithmetic: divide the girls from the boys."

I can't wait for the parent(s) of some homosexual kid to get ahold of this.

6 posted on 08/24/2004 3:34:14 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: OESY
"We think segregation has historically always resulted in second-class citizens," said Terry O'Neill, a National Organization for Women vice president.

"I'll get on my kneepads for any guy who agrees with me," she added. /sarcasm

7 posted on 08/24/2004 3:37:14 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: OESY
"John Kerry, George W. Bush, his father and Al Gore all went to all-boys schools. We don't think that's a coincidence,"

What subset could possibly include the honorable Bushes and two liars? The only thing the Bushes have in common with the liars is the one mentioned in the article. So I'm not sure what this guy is trying to conclude.

8 posted on 08/24/2004 3:40:01 PM PDT by flada
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To: OESY

There. Fixed it for her.

9 posted on 08/24/2004 3:49:28 PM PDT by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com www.wintersoldier.com www.kerrylied.com)
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To: OESY

I'm all for it..


10 posted on 08/24/2004 4:01:09 PM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: OESY

"I suppose it's OK as long as the schools are separate but equal."


I could almost swear I have heard that term before, nah, couldn't be.


11 posted on 08/24/2004 4:01:43 PM PDT by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: CWOJackson

"I can't wait for the parent(s) of some homosexual kid to get ahold of this."

There are NO homosexual kids... just children who are confused and messed up by the liberal media and others who think it's all ok.


12 posted on 08/24/2004 4:03:06 PM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: Awestruck

I totally agree...but their parents and slick lawyers will enable them.


13 posted on 08/24/2004 4:06:15 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

no doubt you are correct.. enable, encourage, etc... oh heck you know SOMEONE is gonna get sued out of all this.


14 posted on 08/24/2004 4:07:57 PM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: OESY
Some women's groups and the American Civil Liberties Union say segregation of any kind is wrong. "We think segregation has historically always resulted in second-class citizens," said Terry O'Neill, a National Organization for Women vice president. . . . "Many school districts wanted to offer this option, but they feared being sued by interest groups"

So much for feminists and the ACLU being on the side of choice and freedom.

15 posted on 08/24/2004 4:48:25 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: OESY
Some women's groups and the American Civil Liberties Union say segregation of any kind is wrong. "We think segregation has historically always resulted in second-class citizens," said Terry O'Neill, a National Organization for Women vice president. . . . "Many school districts wanted to offer this option, but they feared being sued by interest groups"

So much for feminists and the ACLU being on the side of choice and freedom.

16 posted on 08/24/2004 4:49:18 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: kenth; CatoRenasci; Marie; PureSolace; Congressman Billybob; P.O.E.; cupcakes; Amelia; Diana; ...

17 posted on 08/24/2004 4:59:04 PM PDT by Born Conservative (“Consensus is the negation of leadership.” – Margaret Thatcher)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

One woman from NOW said that her organization was against single-sex schools because "How will women learn to lead men?"

I'm all for guys going to all-boys schools. The trouble with public schools today is that too many wussy (male) school administrators act like twits in their dealings with boys.


18 posted on 08/24/2004 5:00:21 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: Born Conservative; OESY

I totally agree with this concept.


19 posted on 08/24/2004 5:42:39 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: OESY

I don't think this is too bad of an idea. I sure did find it hard concentrating on Chemistry and Geometry in the 9th grade with some cute little SuziQ sitting next to me every year.


20 posted on 08/24/2004 6:55:27 PM PDT by ChinaThreat
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