Posted on 08/24/2004 3:01:38 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
Per Foxnews Alert. Into the red sea.
60 people aboard the first one.
Bingo.
Especially when there were eyewitness accounts of an explosion on one of them before it crashed.
Couple these incidents with the thingy about the Syrian musicians and I start getting antsy.
If it could happen in Russia something similiar could very well happen here.
Hope TSA is running a tight ship.
No, you see, it was the front half of the airplane falling off and the rest of the plane making an uncontrolled climb. Nothing to see here, move along.
1,388 miles between Moscow and Athens. Not sure what the fuel tank capacity is for the planes which crashed/disappeared.
TU-134 range: 2,800 km
http://www.aeroflot.org/tu_154.htm
TU-154 range: 4,000 km
1388 miles = 2088 km
Sure sounds like islamonazi MO to me. Chechen "rebels"...BWAHA! Make Chechen Islamonazi murderers.
correction, 1388 miles = 2233 km
And they were headed south, towards Greece.
John Lithgow did it much better...:))
Did I read somewhere that each plane crashed 24 minutes into their flights? Was the date in Russia the 24th?
About 400 miles from Moscow to Athens on my map.
I'm still waiting to read more about the flight that crashed in Belle Harbor NY in November 2001. The NTSB preliminary report still says only "On November 12, 2001, an Airbus 300-600 experienced a loss of control upon initial climbout and crashed into a residential area in Belle Harbor, New York."
Its a moot point now about the stealth plane flying to athens, sochi, thatmountansideoverthere, thatmountiansidehere, whereever. The second plane has been found
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/08/24/russia.planecrash/index.html
A ministry spokeswoman said the wreckage of one jet was found ablaze in the Tula region, about 160 kilometers (100 miles) south of Moscow.
Search and rescue teams were at the site searching for possible survivors, but the ministry said none of the 34 passengers and eight-member crew are believed to have survived.
The wreckage of the second jetliner has also been found, Russian state television reported early Wednesday, citing aviation officials. It was reported missing minutes after the first crash.
They did not say whether any survivors were found.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered security services to launch an immediate investigation, Russian news agencies reported early Wednesday.
The flights took off from Moscow within minutes of each other Tuesday night and were bound for cities in southern Russia.
Witnesses reported seeing the first plane explode before it crashed, the Russian news agency Interfax reported.
The government-run news agency Ria Novosti reported that the plane's wreckage was in two separate locations.
The second plane, carrying with between 46 and 52 people on board, was about 100 miles (160 kilometers) from Rostov-on-Don when it dropped off radar screens.
The first plane disappeared from radar at 10:56 p.m. (0756 GMT), the news agency said.
The Tupolev-134 had taken off from Moscow's Domodedovo Airport and was en route to Volgograd, in southern Russia.
The second plane, a Tupolev-154, disappeared from radar at 10:59 p.m. after having taken off from the same airport en route to Sochi, a tourist resort on the Black Sea in southern Russia, the ministry spokeswoman reported.
The Tupolev-154 is a standard medium-range airliner on domestic flights in Russia, according to aviation websites.
Russian authorities offered no explanations for the crashes but said they had increased security at airports following an explosion at a Moscow bus station earlier Tuesday, which injured three people.
"If this were just one, you would look toward some sort of aircraft issue," Peter Goelz, a former managing director of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board, told CNN.
"But with two of them going down so close together, it's awfully ominous."
The incidents also took place just days before a regional election in the rebellious southern territory of Chechnya, where Russian troops have battled separatist guerrillas for five years.
Chechen separatists have been blamed for numerous bombings and other attacks in Russia in recent years, including the seizure of hundreds of hostages at a Moscow theater that ended with more than 100 hostages dead.
Hear ya.
Another one that raises questions.
govt said that it was turbulance caused by another airliner but I kinda think it was a "shoe bomber" that worked as planned.
I have learned to NEVER EVER trust anything the govt says.
1047: Actual takeoff time 21:35, lost contact 22:59 p.m.
1303: Actual takeoff time 22:16, lost contact 22:56 p.m.
this would cause some confusion to ground witnesses..
"The government-run news agency Ria Novosti reported that the plane's wreckage was in two separate locations. "
If a part blew off it would look like an explosion, maby it lost an engine or something (I dont know much about planes, I assume they can break/blast off) and when the other part landed, it would look like a crash. Were gonna get different storys depending on the angle that the witness was, the elevation, the terrain, etc etc etc.
correction, 1388 miles = 2233 km
That's it. Thanks. 1206 nautical.
This thread is to long to read through and I don't know if it's been mentioned
But my local news is reporting on the 2nd plane .. some kind of terror alert switch was turned on before it crashed
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