[zot]

Kerry's last mission in Vietnam shows two examples of cowardice. I think he is attacking the Swift Boat Veterans For Truth so viciously because THIS is the truth he doesn't want anyone to know.

[ClearCase_guy]

Very nice timeline.

Add to this the first Purple Heart which was given for an injury Kerry suffered 9 days before he experienced any combat (self-inflicted).

Your timeline shows that his third Purple Heart was also for a self-inflicted injury, received while not under enemy fire.

Three purple heart, two of them fraudulent.
Bronze Star for fleeing the scene of a mine explosion
Silver Star -- with improper V -- for shooting a wounded man in the back.

The guy is a big fraud, and its now impossible to hide it.

[QQQQQ]

This is an excellent summation of the timeline and actions.

Is this in the book?

"7. As PCF 23 is leaving the area to take the three seriously injured men from PCF-3 to the Coast Guard cutter offshore, Kerry jumps in PCF-23 and goes with them.

8. PCF-94 (without Kerry) tows the badly damaged PCF-3. "

They should put THIS in an ad, that Kerry abandoned his post. And he wants to be Commander in Chief?!

[backhoe]

To read the latest on the Franchurian Candidate's bizzare exploits, click the picture, goto "last," and work backwards:

If you would like to help the Swift Boat Vets ( as I have, and I urge all to do-- even a few dollars will help ) kindly click on this logo:

If, perchance, the top "click the pic" link is not visible, click here:

-John Kerry- some selected, informative links...--

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I want you to help the SwiftVets-- here's how:

1st download the videos and burn them onto a CD or DVD and Hand Them Out! Take lots of extra copies.

Q. Could you please help those of us that are neophytes how to copy?

Both ads are on the SwiftVets.com site. Under "topics" click on "Latest News".Then, see newbie guides at http://www.doom9.org/guides.htm

( Kudos to Fuzzy! )

To read the latest on the Franchurian Candidate's bizzare exploits, click the picture, goto "last," and work backwards:

If you would like to help the Swift Boat Vets ( as I have, and I urge all to do-- even a few dollars will help ) kindly click on this logo:

[adam_az]

John "Sir Robin" Kerry: A Comparison of John Kerry and Sir Robin

[Cold Heat]

I concur.

It is also interesting that Kerry's contemporaries, (fellow commanders and staff) actually wanted Kerry to take advantage of the three heart rule and get out. They did not want him around and considered him risky and out of control.

Kerry reportedly first refused, saying he wanted to stay and fight.

When morning came, he reportedly gone. Bag and baggage.

[Steven W.]

From Unfit for Command, page 91:

When Chenoweth's boat left a second time to deliver the wounded PCF 3 crewmen to a Coast Guard cutter offshore, Kerry jumped into the boat, leaving the few remaining officers and men the job of saving PCF 3, which was then in terrible condition, sinking just outisde the river. Kerry's eagerness to secure his third and final Purple Heart evidently outweighed any feelings he may have had of loyalty, duty, or honor with regard to his fellow sailors. Thurlow and the brave sailors who saved PCF 3 and towed it out did not seek Purple Hearts for their "minor contusions." Indeed, several of the PCF 3 sailors did not seek or receive Purple Hearts. Chenoweth, Odell, and their boat-mates who fished out and saved the sailors of PCF 3 likewise had no thought of seeking medals but only of rescuing their comrades and saving PCF 3. Kerry, however, portrays himself towing the disabled PCF 3 to safety after saving it. Another lie: The damage control on PCF 3 was done by Thurlow. While Kerry's boat, PCF 94, participated in towing PCF-3, Kerry was no longer on it for most of the trip (he was safely on the Coast Guard cutter), and Thurlow and Chenoweth are certain that Kerry played no role in saving PCF 3 or its crew.
When Chenoweth and Thurlow (as well as several other Swiftees who were there on March 13, 1969) first saw the Kerry ads, they believed the event that Kerry had described in his campaign biography and that was portrayed in his campaign television ads (as well as in the medal citations) had to be different events involving different people. What they had experienced on March 13, 1969, was so unlike the incident Kerry described that they could not imagine that he was describing the same event. They were horrified when they finally realized Kerry had received medals for the incident they remembered.

[WOSG]

PING - Kerry

[lepton]

bookmark bump

[Vortex]

Has anyone speculated yet that sKerry's "lucky" hat he's been saying was given to him by a CIA agent was actually given to him by Rassman?

You know, CIA and Special Forces, it's all the same right?</sarcasm>

[demlosers]

Nice I'll bookmark.

[newzhawk]

What bothers me so much is that when this all started coming out in the early summer- I read the circumstances of Kerry's version of how he got his different medals to my husband- he was in the Navy driving LST's and is a 200 ton boat Captain. He was amazed Kerry didn't get in trouble instead of medals! He left his boat and ran ashore to shoot someone that was already injured by a M50 - would have been half dead or dying- and left a man overboard and "came back" . It was also obvious that he didn't need medical help when a bandaid and neosporin were applied- only fairy Kerry would report this- The info I haven't heard publicly was that Kerry's draft number was low and first tried to get a deferment to study in Paris and was denied. He then chose the service he preferred before getting drafted - big deal - most guys did this as well. From what I understand- Bush's draft number was in the 300's and was unlikely to get drafted anyway- but signed up for hazardous flying duty but in the states so he could finish his education. My own brother with a high number never even considered that he would be drafter with his 337 number - and went to school and did no service- only 10% of male population did! Yet the Dems have no problem allowing theri 527's and stooges trash Bush and Cheney - yet said nothing against the weasel Clinton! I hope my blood pressure survives this election year!

[euclid216]

Did any of the other four officers write an after action report? If yes, are they available? If not, why not?

[CWOJackson]

"The end of Kerry's tour in Vietnam"

The end? He's still serving over there. He's just put himself in for a 4th Purple Heart for yet another self-inflicted Vietnam War wound.

[RS]

"7. As PCF 23 is leaving the area to take the three seriously injured men from PCF-3 to the Coast Guard cutter offshore, Kerry jumps in PCF-23 and goes with them. "

It's pretty obvious that he wanted to get the heck out of there, and if he could mix his rice-in-the-butt with some real wounded, so much the better story ...

If the report got confused as to actually where or how he got wounded --- well noone will notice in 30 years or so when he runs for President....

[mohresearcher]

Michael Dobbs of the Washington Post was on C-SPAN this morning to review his analysis of the engagement on the Bay Hap River on March 13, 1969.

He mentioned that Larry Thurlow's Bronze Star Medal citation states that there was incoming enemy small arms and automatic weapons fired on the Swift Boats during the engagement.

Not answered (as least I couldn't determine from reading Dobbs'August 22, 2004 Washington Post article entitled "Swift Boat Accounts Incomplete": were any of the friendly casualties due to bullet wounds? Please advise if anyone can answer this question.

[Mat_Helm]

I am sick to death of the whole nation for electing Clinton a lieing rapist twice and now considering electing a coward and a lier out for only himself. The media is just evil, pure and simple. The fact that nobody wants to get at the truth about Kerry to know what the real man is all about. The fact that he wrote his own comabt reports and that all his medals are bogus and nobody ever questioned them and let him reach the senate and possibly the White House just sickens me. That the media knows this too and would still want him as their leader means that a great deal of the people in this nation are to far gone and have no honor left. God help this country for when corruption finally takes it down the whole world goes up in flames.

[Intolerant in NJ]

Good timeline - it's also interesting, and disgusting, that in the famous 1971 debate with John O'Neill, Kerry talks about how very difficult it was for him to leave his unit and all the men he had such regard for, and how he had to think about whether he really wanted to leave for two weeks after being wounded on March 13 before he finally submitted his request - but as you correctly pointout, that request was already in Washington on March 17, only four days after he was eligible for transfer - I'm beginning to believe he can't help lying......

[Eva]

Well, I think that you got one thing wrong. Apparently Kerry's boat hit something under water, log, or something big, that caused a little damage to the propellor, knocked Rassman off the boat and made Kerry think that they had hit a mine. There was some damage to the boat, but not nearly the damage that would be caused by an explosion. It was this collision that caused Kerry and Rassman to think that they were under fire. Some on the boat thought that it was a near miss of a rocket, but the evidence didn't support that theory, either.

[Tacis]

I believe you are correct! But, there is something else.

Kerry enlisted in 1966. His six was up in 1972. Yet, his discharge (at least the one that used to be posted on his site) is dated 1978. What was the second 6 for? Has he ever bragged about re-upping? Don't most folks who sign for another 6 brag about it? Where are his drill records from 1972 to 1978, if adcive reserve (why would he re-up for inactive reserve?)? Was his 1972 sign-on involuntary? Did the USN want to keep him of board for courtmartial or control?

The SwiftBoat Vets action here has been heroic. Had they not begun their work, the media would all be standing around celebrating Kerry's briliant war record and agreeing with him that it was a sure qualification for CinC. It ain't cause it's fake!!!

Could Kerry have married a Viet Cong in Cahm-Ran Bay and then met her again in Paris in 1971? Is that why the Navy kept him? Is that why he won't release his records? Has he ever said why he won't release his records?

[Interesting Times]

A "why they sent Kerry home" ping...