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** AFTER CONTACTING SWIFT VETS DIRECTLY, KERRY HAMMERS AT BUSH IN NYC"
WMCA - New York ^ | 8.24.2004

Posted on 08/24/2004 9:48:37 AM PDT by KMC1

NEW YORK - This morning, John Kerry used New York City as the launching pad for his latest rounds of attack on President Bush and urged the GOP to abandon the negative attacks of "fear and smear" and to return to the debate on issues.

However, it is clear from a reported phone call that Kerry participated in Sunday evening that Kerry sees that the discontentment of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth as fundamentally non-related to the Bush campaign.

Kerry reportedly placed a call to Robert Brant (Ret.) Commander, United States Navy. Brant had skippered boats #96 and #36 and spent time with Kerry in An Thoi. According to reports Brant used to put Kerry back to bed when he would be caught sleepwalking.

In a world-wide exclusive broken by Internet journalist Matt Drudge, Kerry clearly asks a Swift Boat Veteran who is critical of him - what he did?

Kerry: "Why are all these Swift Boat guys opposed to me?"

Brant: "You should know what you said when you came back and the impact it had on the young sailors and how it was disrespectful of our guys that were killed over there."

Kerry: "When we dedicated SB1 in (19)'92, I said to all the swift guys that I wasn't talking about the swifties, I was talking about all the rest of the veterans."

Kerry also asked for an opportunity to meet with Brant - face to face. Brant declined...

(Excerpt) Read more at kmclive.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brant; duebe; geek; johnkerry; kerry; phonecalls; robertbrant; sbi; swiftboat; swiftboats; swiftboatveterans; swifties; swiftvets; veterans
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To: commish

Think he might eat his piece?


81 posted on 08/24/2004 11:31:14 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: Always Right
So Kerry just slandered millions of veterans based on heresy.

I think you meant to say "here say" not "heresy".

82 posted on 08/24/2004 11:35:31 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: KMC1

MSNBC.com
'Hacktivists' Log On
Police are on guard against threats of electronic chaos

By Sarah Childress
Newsweek

Aug. 30 issue - As protesters in New York paint signs and map out marching routes for next week's Republican National Convention, on the other side of the country another kind of protester is working stealthily by the glow of a computer screen. Aided by a young radical computer hacker calling himself CrimethInc, a group of politically active "hacktivists" are plotting to disrupt the convention electronically. CrimethInc and his "Black Hat Hackers Bloc" vow they'll take down Republican Web sites, e-mail servers, phones and fax lines, alter electronic billboards and cause what he calls unspecified "financial disruption."

They don't plan to do it alone. Last week CrimethInc e-mailed a call to arms to hackers across the country, with instructions on causing electronic disruptions. But no sooner did he hit send than his e-mail account was deactivated and he disappeared into the ether. Earlier, by pay phone, CrimethInc told NEWSWEEK, "We don't believe that extremist right-wing groups ... have the right to be able to put forth their propaganda." (The New York police computer-crime unit is watching for threats, says spokesman Paul Browne. "Sometimes it's a combination of boasting and planning, but we take it seriously," he says. "We'll take appropriate action if there's any malicious activity.")

A tall guy with tousled hair and wire-rimmed glasses, CrimethInc sees himself as David fighting Goliath. But it's not just Republicans who disagree with him—he's taken the most flak from fellow hacktivists. On Web forums and at recent conventions, they complain that he gives hacktivism a bad name and violates their code to defend free speech. "If you've got an issue with a political opponent, you create a better argument and publicize that, but you don't shout them down in a town-hall meeting," says hacktivist Oxblood Ruffin. "That's basically what you're doing when you shut down someone's Web site."

It's hard to tell whether CrimethInc's group is all talk. But his arrogant, anti-establishment speech at a recent hacker convention convinced some attendees that he's at least determined enough to cause damage. It wouldn't take much; even something as simple as crashing a Web site for a few hours at peak times could wreak havoc on the GOP's well-laid convention plans.

The bloc isn't the only group planning online attacks. Hacktivists from the well-established Electronic Disturbance Theater will stage a "virtual sit-in" on a Republican site during the convention, using software that floods servers with requests for Web sites. (The group used the same tactic to bring down the World Economic Forum's site in 2002.) Ricardo Dominguez, the group's director and New York University prof, gives a nod to CrimethInc for mixing code and politics. But he can't fully endorse any anonymous protester—real hacktivists, he says, log on to be counted.

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5783835/site/newsweek/


83 posted on 08/24/2004 11:36:27 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KMC1

I watched the Kerry speech....CNN and FOX only stayed with it for the first 10 minutes or so. Listen, if Kerry "hammered" Bush I didn't hear it. He said "smear" a couple of times, "smear and fear", and a sentence or two about negative campaigning, but it was no bid deal speech.

David Gergen last night on HARDBALL said Kerry would need to address the charges made against him by the Swiftboaters, but Kerry didn't even come close.

He was over 45 minutes late getting to the podium, he apologized for the delay but didn't say why he was late. I'm betting he was putting on clean panties after being told about Matt's siren exclusive.


84 posted on 08/24/2004 11:36:44 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Kerry Didn't Deliver Today....Maybe He Needs Another Vacation.com)
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To: KMC1
Kerry: "When we dedicated SB1 in (19)'92, I said to all the swift guys that I wasn't talking about the swifties, I was talking about all the rest of the veterans."

#1: Now Kerry is claiming he and his "band of brothers" were saints in Vietnam while the other veterans are monstrous criminals--that's not going to make him popular with the other veterans!

#2: Kerry is trying to square his "I was a hero in Vietnam" with "I said Vietnam Vets were baby killers." Are voters going to accept that?

#3: Kerry just pointed out an instance where he publicly said something much more recently about the Vietnam issue. Let's get a transcript of that event, if possible!

85 posted on 08/24/2004 11:41:42 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree he will become an even more broken version of the algore, but don't forget that he will STILL be a senator........


86 posted on 08/24/2004 12:24:12 PM PDT by tioga (Flush the johns in '04!)
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To: snopercod
BTW, did you hear what Kerry's radio call-sign was? "Boston Strangler". He made that up himself, although the only thing he ever choked was his chicken.

Too funny!

87 posted on 08/24/2004 12:37:03 PM PDT by afnamvet (USAF Tuy Hoa AFB RVN 68-69 NOT FONDA KERRY!)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
I agree. People who fantasize about Kerry dropping out or being "done" are too locked into their own worldview. Not everyone thinks like most Freepers. In fact, the vast majority don't. Many people won't see the ads, many others are reflexively anti-Bush, etc.

This election isn't over -- not by a long shot, and I'll be perfectly happy if Dubya ends up squeaking out a win.

88 posted on 08/24/2004 1:43:51 PM PDT by XJarhead
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To: KMC1
Subject: How to start each day with a positive outlook

1. Open a new file in your PC.

2. Name it "John Kerry."

3. Send it to the trash.

4. Empty the trash.

5. Your PC will ask you, "Do you really want to get rid of John Kerry?"

6. Answer calmly, "Yes," and press the mouse button firmly.

7. Feel better . . . .

89 posted on 08/24/2004 1:45:53 PM PDT by paltz
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To: TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl

Do we need a sleepwalking C-in-
c?


90 posted on 08/24/2004 5:45:32 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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