Posted on 08/23/2004 11:39:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Edited on 08/23/2004 11:47:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
I'll make this short and sweet (kinda like this is your brain, this is your brain on crack - any questions?).
a) Alan Keyes is an America loving, Constitution loving, Liberty loving, pro-life ultra conservative. We'd be ^damned lucky to have him in the Senate if we could get him there.
b) Barack Obama is an America hating, pro-abortion socialist communist. It'll be a dark day for America if he's elected.
Any questions?
http://www.africawithin.com/bios/frederick_douglass.htm
The girl under the table story is from Alan Keyes' book, Masters of the Dream.
And the rest is common knowledge.
Daughter asked for the information. I gave it to her.
Not comparable? That's a bit naive.
I don't deny that stuff ever happened, but what I want to know is, why do people living today need to be paid because it happened? I didn't do any of it, nor did anyone else currently living. Nor, has any of the living people today been victims of institutionalized slavery in this country.
Reparations for slavery is just another liberal handout, at everyone else's expense... Period.
You're telling an American Indian that he is naive about American Indian issues.
Listen to yourself.
What? "Put down the tomahawk, and we'll give you a tax break?"
Riiiiiight.
No, the American Indian I'm apparently talking to is naive about African American issues.
Of course it's not comparable. Not at all. Indian tribes are soverweign entities, who entered into legal binding contracts (i.e. treaties) on a government to government basis. We receive no reparations or anything like it. Never have, and never will.
Anyone thinking rationally, and not blinded by Keye's God-like Radiance, can see you are comparing apples and oranges...
"carpetbagging" is an obsolete concept. The charge seeks to preserve a thing which, regretably, the courts have long since robbed us of.
More's the pity.
What "Afdrican-American Issues"? If by that you mean "Chad doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to giving African-Americans handouts" then yeah, I don't know a thing about it because it's so idiotic of a concept, that I'm having a problem wrapping my mind around it...
Ummm... no. We don't get "tax breaks". If you say we do, then I'd LOOOOOVE to know about it, as I'd like to get one.
Good luck though.
Actually, I think he could teach you a thing or two.
In fact, I know he could.
Here's the bottom line: I never owned slaves, and I don't owe reparations to people who never experienced slavery.
If I do a Google search for "Gelato", am I likely to find posts supporting reparations dating back before Keyes came up with his idea, or not? You appear to be trying to turn your world inside-out to justify Keyes' liberal idea. Is it worth it?
Good. Glad you cleared that up.
but what I want to know is, why do people living today need to be paid because it happened?
Paid? That's Jesse Jackson's idea. Alan Keyes' plan is a tax break.
I didn't do any of it, nor did anyone else currently living.
No, but the effects of what was done are still there.
And who said anything about you paying anything? It's the federal government giving a tax break to a group it failed to protect, just as states give tax breaks to another group for past wrongs.
It's more practical than Reagan's plan. Or do you think his was better?
Reparations for slavery is just another liberal handout, at everyone else's expense... Period.
Yes, a handout is the liberal form of addressing the problem. A tax cut is the conservative solution to give incentive to work.
Unbelievable.
What, are you saying that Black People dont' work? That's a bit racist isn't it? So they need "incentive" to work? Since when? Every black person I know works, and pay taxes, and no one is holding them down. Why is that?
Hold him accountable? By all means.
Just as one ought hold Bush accountable for CFR and for NCLB and for blowing out the budget and so forth.
But at the end of the day, while it's perfectly valid to say "W screwed up when he signed M/F" and to say "Keyes is off his nut about reparations", when all is said and done - you gotta vote for both of them or keep your mouth shut about the alternative.
It's in the law of many states for those on reservations.
IRS code, Section 45A: Indian Employment Credit.
Section 61: State charted Indian tribal corporation will eb exempt from Federal taxation. Gross income -- Derived from Business - Income of corporation wholly owned by Indian tribe is exempt from tax.
Section 7805: Tribe is entitled to retroactive relief from Federal income taxes.
ahhh cut the guy some slack...
they are just pissed that the indians tried to keep a shred of their sovereignty, and did.
Why, thank you. Even though you likely have no idea what it means....
Keyes has a good chance
To win? Oh, yeah, and my Cleveland Browns are going to win the Super Bowl, too.
and he's no fool.
Didn't think he was until this. He'll be the butt of late night jokes for a long time. You may not think that matters, but it does. The only people Keyes will impress are those who already agree with him, and this stunt will lose him some of those. Like me.
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