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The Word in Republican Circles....
The Kerry Spot ^ | August 23, 2004 | jim geraghty

Posted on 08/23/2004 7:47:32 PM PDT by hansel

THE WORD IN REPUBLICAN CIRCLES [08/23 02:41 PM] Just chatted with a high-ranking Republican tuned in to the Bush campaign. A couple of highlights: * The idea that the Swift Boat Vets ads’ could boomerang on Bush is wishful thinking. Smart Democrats understand there’s nothing good about this for John Kerry. * The Bush campaign isn’t worried that the Swift Boat Vets’ message will step on President Bush’s message during the convention. * Despite Josh Marshall’s charges, Bob Dole wasn’t “sent out” by the Bush campaign. The campaign offered to brief him on some issues, and he turned it down. “Bob Dole doesn’t let anybody tell Bob Dole what to do,” the high-ranking Republican said, using the exact third-person style that Dole himself would use. * The Republican also wasn’t impressed with Kerry’s efforts to urge television stations not to run the Swift Boats’ ad, wondering how loud the cries of outrage would have been if the Bush campaign had tried to prevent “Fahrenheit 9/11” from running in theaters.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kerry; swiftboatveterans; swiftvets
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The Dem talking points are to try to head off this Vietnam conversation before it heads down the post-Vietnam anti-war protest road. They are about to try to convince America that Kerry was right; that in effect, war crimes were a common occurence during the Vietnam War. That Kerry was noble and brave to stand up and point out these crimes.

Unfortunately for Kerry, while there is evidence of plenty of war crimes, by comparing our soldiers to Genghis Khan Kerry emboldened Vietnamese warriors and torturers and increased the suffering of Americans.

Our citizenry is not generally sympathetic to anti-war protestors who are more concerned about the enemy than about their brothers-at-arms. Kerry has known his whole life that this would be his weak point with America as a whole, and his spinners are desperate to make him look heroic for betraying his brothers.

21 posted on 08/23/2004 8:14:15 PM PDT by twgiles
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To: TheLion

I guess when the truth is not on your side, you have to get your story straight.


22 posted on 08/23/2004 8:17:33 PM PDT by hansel
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To: hansel

Maybe these little tidbits are the only sanity they have to cling to.


23 posted on 08/23/2004 8:21:02 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: twgiles

exactly right.

that's why its critical now for our side to shift the focus to ad #2 - quickly. frankly, that's the better issue, the first issue has become a "he said/she said" basically.


24 posted on 08/23/2004 8:24:18 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Steel Wolf
Kerry doesn't have the time, money, credibility, skill, or ability to defend himself from three competent attackers.

The Left has spent 4 years saying Bush is as dumb as a monkey.

Look who's eating the Primate Chow now.

25 posted on 08/23/2004 8:24:28 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: BJungNan
Interesting. Maybe you can ask them why they are ignoring the Kerry outsourcing story.

Is that a joke?...You don't know why they don't want to bring up outsourcing?...Really?

26 posted on 08/23/2004 8:25:12 PM PDT by lewislynn (Why do the same people who think "free trade" is the answer also want less foreign oil dependence?)
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To: oceanview
"he said/she said"

he said - they said = 0 credibility.

27 posted on 08/23/2004 8:25:18 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: SW6906
Thirty minutes ago Jeff Greenfield was wringing his hands on Aaron Brown's show, oh so concerned for Bush and how it may backfire on his campaign. Very touching.
28 posted on 08/23/2004 8:26:27 PM PDT by CaptainK
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To: hansel
I guess when the truth is not on your side, you have to get your story straight.

When the truth is not on your side, neither is time. That's why Kerry is in serious danger. He's being hit hard, early, and often. It's months from the election and he's has already taken significant damage.

29 posted on 08/23/2004 8:27:29 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Don't make me roll initiative...!)
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To: oceanview

And if anyone asks about Bush's National Guard service he can always say "well at least I didn't call American soldiers War Criminals while in service."


30 posted on 08/23/2004 8:29:34 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: jocon307

Too subtle. I bet 9 in 10 Freepers don't get your comment.


31 posted on 08/23/2004 8:29:38 PM PDT by maro
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To: jla

Gergen is a Dumbassedus Maximus.


32 posted on 08/23/2004 8:30:33 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: oceanview

I hope that this will happen since Galanti has been on Hannity today/tonight for interviews. Maybe more outlets will pick him up although he might not be asked for interviews because they would have to have a Kerry person too. If I was in the Kerry camp, I would not want to be sent out to share the interview with Galanti. I wonder if the MSM will go there....

I really don't want to get mired in the medals controversy because it's the weakest part of the case although I do want them to keep hammering him to release his records. I know that the anti-war stuff is what makes people the most mad so I hope we get a full airing of that.


33 posted on 08/23/2004 8:31:04 PM PDT by hansel
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To: hansel
While driving home tonight I heard some brain dead network news woman with a touch of attitude say the the SBV's story is bad for Bush as it shows he didn't serve his country. This was presented as straight news...

I almost drove off the road laughing
34 posted on 08/23/2004 8:33:20 PM PDT by Vision ("This is in God's hands now")
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To: hansel
My Bob Dole Haiku:

Bob Dole needs a pen
Bob Dole always has a pen
I am not Bob Dole

35 posted on 08/23/2004 8:34:26 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: hansel

I agree. and I imagine the Kerry camp understands this. they can (and are) fighting back against the medal controversy, and they will try and keep the focus on that and ignore the second ad entirely. the mainstream media will move in lockstep with them.

let enough americans see that "chopping off of heads and ears" testimony, in his own words, and Kerry will be hurt by it. what is he going to say about that?


36 posted on 08/23/2004 8:36:25 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Vision

don't laugh - those are the news souces the swing voter sheeple listen to, and that's the perspective they get there.


37 posted on 08/23/2004 8:37:44 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: hansel
Kerry can't talk about anything other than Vietnam because he's got no agenda for the future.

1. He can't talk about getting out of Iraq because everybody has told him it's stupid to give the enemy a reachable goal. 2. He can't talk about relocating troops because he's already flip-flopped in one month's time about troops in Korea. 3. He can't talk about others helping us in Iraq because Germany has said that they aren't sending in troops no matter who's President. 4. He can't talk about many more giveaway programs because he's already given away more than all the tax hike he wants on the top 1% of taxpayers. Furthermore, he can't get them through because everybody knows the House will stay Republican no matter what happens in the Senate. 5. He can't talk about his anti-war activities because the vets are already pissed at him. 6. He can't talk about his Senate record because he flip-flopped and never used any political leverage to make any legislation happen which promoted anything more than his name in the "Me, Too" column.

So, what can he talk about? Himself, his character, his experience. He's an arrogant, elitest, egomanical Ivy-League blue-blood with nothing in common with the average guy. His sense of entitlement is mind-boggling. He's lived off other's money, never having been employed by anyone other than government. A trust-fund-baby living off the public dole--unless you want to include the time he lived off the monies of wives #1 and #2. (To be fair, maybe he's earned his money by having to live and sleep with Mrs. Heinz--that would be work enough!) Heck, Al Gore had more in common with the common man having planted and weeded tobacco! What can he talk about? His mother-in-law being unable to afford medicine? The cost of gas for his SUV's? Hardly.

38 posted on 08/23/2004 8:37:58 PM PDT by MHT
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To: chookter
My Bob Dole Haiku

Bob Dole is "Da Man"!
He is a TRUE war hero
God Bless you, Bob Dole!!!

39 posted on 08/23/2004 8:38:51 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: hansel
I think the demwits are trying to throw up a smoke screen, by saying the SBV are going to hurt W, they are so scared of the truth that is being spoken and it is picking up steam. All W has to do is sit back and watch the tidal wave take out the plague that is threating this nation. Nothing like a tidal wave to clean things up a bit. At the same time giving the SBV a platform to speak from, which they were denied on their return from Nam. I think it is about time..and I am proud of them.
40 posted on 08/23/2004 8:39:39 PM PDT by marmar (Faith is a beautiful thing.....)
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