BUSH LEADS KERRY IN NEW FLORIDA POLL; GALLUP- BUSH 48- KERRY 46 NADER 2

GALLUP

[Nascardude]

. Now, suppose that the presidential election were being held today, and it included John Kerry and John Edwards as the Democratic candidates, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney as the Republican candidates, and Ralph Nader and Peter Camejo as independent candidates. Who would you vote for?

Kerry/ Edwards Bush/ Cheney Nader/ Camejo Neither/other/ no opinion Likely Voters 2004 Aug 20-22 46 48 2 4 2004 Jul 19-22 46 50 1 3 Registered Voters 2004 Aug 20-22 45 45 3 7 2004 Jul 19-22 44 49 2 5

National Results

Kerry/ Edwards Bush/ Cheney Nader/ Camejo Neither/other/ no opinion Likely Voters 2004 Aug 9-11 46 48 3 3 Registered Voters 2004 Aug 9-11 45 46 5 4

2. (Asked of Nader voters) If Ralph Nader is not on the ballot in your state on Election Day, would you vote for Kerry and Edwards, the Democrats, or Bush and Cheney, the Republicans?

Kerry/ Edwards Bush/ Cheney Neither/other/ no opinion Likely Voters 2004 Aug 20-22 47 48 5 2004 Jul 19-22 47 50 3 Registered Voters 2004 Aug 20-22 46 46 8 2004 Jul 19-22 45 49 6

National Results

Kerry/ Edwards Bush/ Cheney Neither/other/ no opinion Likely Voters 2004 Aug 9-11 47 50 3 Registered Voters 2004 Aug 9-11 47 48 5

3. Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush has handled the response to the hurricanes that hit Florida last week?

Approve Disapprove No opinion Florida Adults 2004 Aug 20-22 71 16 13

4. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Governor Jeb Bush has handled the response to the hurricanes that hit Florida last week?

Approve Disapprove No opinion Florida Adults 2004 Aug 20-22 76 15 9

5. How worried are you that you or your family will suffer significant property damage or financial loss caused by a hurricane in the area where you live -- very worried, somewhat worried, not too worried, or not worried at all?

Very worried Somewhat worried Not too worried Not worried at all Already suffered loss No opinion Florida Adults 2004 Aug 20-22 19 33 27 19 1 1

6. Have you, personally, ever suffered significant property damage or financial loss as a direct result of a hurricane hitting the area where you live, or not?

Yes No No opinion Florida Adults 2004 Aug 20-22 17 83 * Based on 507 Florida adults in Form A. For results based on this sample, the maximum margins of sampling error are ±5 percentage points.

7. Have you, personally, suffered significant property damage or financial loss as a direct result of either Hurricane Bonnie or Hurricane Charley hitting the area where you live, or not?

Yes No No opinion Florida Adults 2004 Aug 20-22 10 90 * Based on 495 Florida adults in Form B. For results based on this sample, the maximum margins of sampling error are ±5 percentage points.

Results are based on telephone interviews with 1,002 Florida adults, aged 18+, conducted August 20-22, 2004. For results based on this sample, one can say with 95% confidence that the margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points.

For results based on the sample of 859 registered voters in Florida, the maximum margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points.

Results for likely voters in Florida are based on the subsample of 671 survey respondents deemed most likely to vote in the November 2004 Presidential Election, according to a series of questions measuring current voting intentions and past voting behavior. For results based on the total sample of likely voters, one can say with 95% confidence that the margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points. Based on past voting history in Florida, turnout is assumed to be 50% of the voting age population.

Approximately 4% of all interviews were conducted in Spanish.

In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.

[Torie]

The swifties need to be very careful to focus on where they clearly have the goods that Kerry lied. They have singed themselves by overreaching, opining on the subjective, and some of them making contradictory statements. I think they know that, which is why they pulled the first ad, and that ad is no longer available on their website. It is as if it does not exist.

Their second ad of course deals with Kerry's outrageous antiwar statements, which are incontrovertible, although Kerry's team is now try to wiggle out of that one, by saying Kerry was just repeating what he heard in Detroit - a mere conduit. Of course, anyone who listened to his testimony would know that he suggested he "knew" about the atrocities himself, and believed them to be widespread, and SOP.

As you know, when I listened and watched Kerry's testimony, is when I declared on this forum that Kerry was beyond the pale, and putting aside partisan and ideology, unfit for office. Indeed, the SOB has not apologized for those statements to this day; that's disgusting and pathetic.

[jwalsh07]

Bob Novak dropped that little gem over the weekend. I think it was on the Capital Gang but I'm not sure. He said it in a way that people say things whne they know something we don't. Novak is a good reporter no matter what else he is. I tend to believe him.

[jwalsh07]

Yes, that is the crux of the matter. You know it and I know it.

[VRWC_minion]

If the election were held today, which is unconstitutional, immoral, and fattening, Bush would lose by 53,456 electoral votes.

[Don'tMessWithTexas]

If GW takes MN, he will carry OR and NJ.

[VRWC_minion]

Don't the national results show Bus 2% behind when in tghe last Gallup poll he was 3% ahead ?

[ken5050]

One point that hasn't been addressed in great detail...Perhaps the most effective defense Kerry has offered are the apparent inconsistencies between some the the current statements by the Swifties, as opposed to what they said and wrote on his fitreps and award citations, as wel as their statements defendign him during campaing in the 90's..Oddly enough, it's not really an inconsistancy, though it's understandable why the Swifties aren't eager to say..At the time of Kerry's 4 months in Nam, everyone knew the war was over...Nixon was elected on a platform to end the war..and the mood of the country was easy to assess.. the US would NOT do what was necesaary to win militarily..I was never there..I was based in Spain from 68-72..but have considerable aneoctal evidence for my thesis..witht he war winding down, most commanders wer willing, nay eager, to do the one thing they could do for the troops and junior officers in their command..hand out medals and commendations..let a guy punch his ticket, dress up his resume a little..heck..you were asking men to live and die, in hellacious conditions, to at best, get a stalemate, a draw, so why not let them get a few rewards....I believe the militray did do a study of the frequency of awards in the last year of the VN war...it wasn't well publizied, becuase everyone in the service benefitted..I'm not saying, nor that awardswere handed out en masse that weren't truly earned..rather that more likely the porcedures to investigate the awards, when submitted, were lax, and often they weren't knocked down to a lower award, as the military normally does..and the Swifites probably,and understandably don't want to offer this as an explanation; but ironically, neither does theKerry camp want to see it used, becuase it would denigrate ALL of Kerry's awards.

[COEXERJ145]

If the election were held today, which is unconstitutional, immoral, and fattening, Bush would lose by 53,456 electoral votes.

Do I detect a hint of disCOURAGE bashing? LOL!

[Torie]

Your "grade inflation" suggestion is an interesting one. The only problem is if Kerry lied to self inflate his grades.

[ken5050]

Yes..without saying...that's true..

[ken5050]

Tonk..would you want to opine on my post 47?..Didn't want my comments misconstrued..regards..

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

The New Soldier by John Kerry and Vietnam Veterans Against the War

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Print and distibute the book that John Kerry "forgets" to mention!

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Help America know what a "hero" he was at the Winter Soldier
scam he and Jane Fonda pulled on the USA when he came home.

Make sure Kerry "fans" get their copy!


http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf
http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf
http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf

"Phony Vietnam veterans alleged in books
Guenter Lewy's 1978 book America in Vietnam (pages 316-317) and B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley's Stolen Valor (Verity Press, Inc., Dallas, Texas)(pages 113, 131-137) contain similar information about alleged flaws in Lane's book. Neither book, however, refutes any of the testimony given during the Winter Soldier Investigation.

Lawyer and leftist activist Mark Lane was one of the organizers of Winter Soldier. In 1970, Lane had published a book called Conversations With Americans purporting to be interviews with Vietnam veterans about war crimes, containing Vietnam tales of atrocities. Reporter Neil Sheehan showed some interviewed in Lane's book had never served in Vietnam and others had not been in the situations they described. Lane admitted he did not check military records, as confirmation of details was not relevant. Lane later confirmed these militarty records.
The following are often falsely listed as being participants in Winter Soldier, but were actually in Lane's book instead. This confusion is probably due to Stolen Valor having an explanation of Lane's history within the section on Winter Soldier.
Chuck Onan, stock room clerk in Beaufort, S.C.
Michael Schneider, deserted in Europe and deserted again in the USA.
Terry Whitmore, was in an unpopulated area of Vietnam.
Garry Gianninoto, medical corpsman at battalion headquarters.
VVAW leader and Winter Soldier co-organizer Al Hubbard lied about being an officer, and sustaining war injuries - but he never testified at Winter Soldier .
According to the investigative work of Burkett, Lewy and others, there were many imposters, liars, and plain nutjobs who infiltrated the ranks of the anti-war movement, and, in some cases, testified to war crimes and atrocities that never occurred in order to get attention, sympathy, and, in one documented case, medals and honors."

http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/W/Winter-Soldier-Investigation.htm

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Exposing Kerry's Vietnam "record" WITHOUT mention of Swift Boat Vets Thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1197486/posts

[comebacknewt]

Although W is almost dead even in several states he won last time, the good news is he should firm up his support in these states after the convention. Even a modest bounce of four points or so will dramatically change the dynamics of this race.

Then, we will see the real RAT panic set in.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Thanks to your prediction I will sleep soundly tonight.

[Salvation]

A lor of polls are not putting Nader into the mix like this one does. Is that throwing the other polls for Kerry?

[SunkenCiv]

No surprise there, Bush never was behind.

George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

[ChiMark]

O.K. let's get a Zogby poll and that should justify your pessimism.

Thanks for a cold shower.

[hershey]

Swift Boat Vets ads strike home with retired vets and families!!!!!

[LS]

You are right, sir. IA.