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Bush Says 'That Ad' Attacking Kerry Should Stop
http://www.reuters.com ^ | Mon Aug 23, 2004 02:53 PM ET | Adam Entous

Posted on 08/23/2004 12:28:53 PM PDT by KQQL

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To: aft_lizard
You forget that the Dems always get to play by a different set of rules. Bush can put the ball back in Kerry's court 1000 times and no one will call on Kerry to uphold the law, only Bush.

With Bush's comments, Kerry now has soundbites for an ad in which he can say that "even George Bush has attacked the Swift Boat Vets...even George Bush says Kerry 'served admirably...He ought to be proud of his record.'"

By giving Kerry these sound bites, the President has helped marginalize the Swift Boat Vets.

What Bush should have said was "I am calling for an end to all unfair advertising and ask that my opponent do likewise" and shut up.

121 posted on 08/23/2004 1:02:33 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: KQQL
Now that Bush has praised Kerry Vietnam war record, and condemned the swiftboats adds, the swiftboats vet will rapidly lose all creditability and Kerry will be a sympathetic victim of GOP dirty tricks. Great Job W, you just blew it big time.
122 posted on 08/23/2004 1:02:38 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: Texas Mom
He just shot Kerry in the foot if anyone has been shot.

Good grief. Does this put Kerry in line for antother purple heart??

123 posted on 08/23/2004 1:02:39 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier ("We will always remember. We will always be proud." Ronald Reagan)
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To: DOGEY
Kerry now has soundbites for an ad in which he can say that "even George Bush has attacked the Swift Boat Vets...even George Bush says Kerry 'served admirably...He ought to be proud of his record.'"

By giving Kerry these sound bites, the President has helped marginalize the Swift Boat Vets.

What Bush should have said was "I am calling for an end to all unfair advertising and ask that my opponent do likewise" and shut up.

124 posted on 08/23/2004 1:03:29 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Which candidate will defend my free speech rights?

I agree.

First hard money is banned, beyond ridiculously small amounts. Then soft money to parties is banned. Now they want the private groups to be quiet, too. The next step is that no one spends a dime on political speech except the Official Incumbent Reelection Politburo.

This may be a shortterm tactical winner, but signing on to leftist monstrosities like "campaign finance reform" is a longterm loser.

125 posted on 08/23/2004 1:04:29 PM PDT by SupplySider
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To: KQQL
"But Bush stopped short of directly condemning the charge that Kerry lied about his actions."

These people will not be satisfied, no matter what! It's damned if you do, damned if you don't.

126 posted on 08/23/2004 1:04:49 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Only because the MSM is waging its war via misleading headlines.


127 posted on 08/23/2004 1:04:53 PM PDT by Paul_B
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To: BushisTheMan

BUSH IS RIGHT: EVEN IF KERRY PADDED HIS WAR RESUME OR USED "CREATIVE WRITING" ON SOME MEDALS, HE STILL SERVED "ADMIRABLY" AS DID 2.5 MILLION OTHER MEN IN THE MILITARY. HE TOOK OUT SOME ENEMY, DID HIS DUTIES AND DIDNT COMMIT WAR CRIMES.

Oh wait, on that last point, didn't he himself say he committed war crimes and accuse all his pals of the same??? ... I get so confused. Is only Kerry allowed to attack his own military record? :-0

Law of BUSH Responsibility: It's always Bush's fault.
Liberals believe in individual responsibility after all; they think the individual to blame for everything is Bush.


128 posted on 08/23/2004 1:05:00 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush - Right for our Times!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Bush is shooting himself in the foot again.

No he isn't. I think it's brilliant. W knows that the SBVT are not going to quit running their ads. This posture insulates him against any further whinning from the dims. John O'Neill has said that even if W personally asked him to pull the ads HE WOULDN'T. To him it isn't political.....it's personal. W knows that.

129 posted on 08/23/2004 1:05:26 PM PDT by jslade (People who are easily offended, OFFEND ME!)
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To: KQQL
"Bush Says 'That Ad' Attacking Kerry Should Stop"

The usual half-truths from the propaganda wing of the Stalinist liberal party.

Bush didn't say that "that ad" attacking Kerry should stop. He said that all 527 ads should stop.

130 posted on 08/23/2004 1:05:51 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The President did nothing of the sort. He agreed with Kerry on process but not on substance. He NEVER said the Swifties are wrong. In fact Bush called for end to ALL negative attacks. The Democrats won't agree to halt them, since this means forfeiting Soros' billions. But the point the President made was, I tried my best to extend my hand to bring about a more elevated debate and my opponent spurned me. And the public will agree.


131 posted on 08/23/2004 1:06:21 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: e_castillo
"their message is starting to get accross."

Make that was, past tense, Bush just cut the legs out from under this story. You can now forget the swiftboat vets. Then can now be safely ignored by all major media, just a bunch of right wings nut jobs. Move on folks, nothing to see here.

132 posted on 08/23/2004 1:06:26 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: Pukin Dog

"FReepers all over the U.S. cried foul, because Bush did not get their permission for today's Strategery moment."

Evil snicker.


133 posted on 08/23/2004 1:06:27 PM PDT by ShandaLear (Swifties v. MoveOn.org: David slays Goliath)
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To: goldstategop
Even if it strategically serves him well, I believe it is fundamentally wrong and harmful to the free speech principles this coutry used to stand for. All that clause in the First Amendment seems to protect these days is worthless trash like virtual kiddie porn. Which is worse, the Swiftboat vets speaking their mind about Kerry or virtual kiddie porn?

"Negative politics" is nothing more than the right to criticize politicians. You do not have to like it or agree with it, but do you really think it should be banned?

134 posted on 08/23/2004 1:06:39 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: dila813
BALL IN KERRY COURT!

About time the traitor started to scream. Or maybe the 'scream' painting being stolen symbolically represented it.

135 posted on 08/23/2004 1:06:45 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (CEO, VRWC: When you think treason, don't think Benedict Arnold - think JOHN 'Buzzard' KERRY!)
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To: biblewonk

biblewonk:

I've figured this out. Bush is not
stupid, which a shallow analysis
of his reply might suggest. Bush
keeps referring to KERRY'S record
& service, of which HE should be
proud. All Bush means, clearly, is
what KERRY represents as his own
record. NOT what others are saying
that contradicts Kerry's claims -
Bush isn't commenting on that at
all.

I like it. The Media is frantic
to hurt Bush with this Ad War. He
won't let them.

Pay CLOSE attention...very close.
Bush is trusting US to watch so
carefully, & not knee-jerk, that
he believes his backers will stick
with him.


136 posted on 08/23/2004 1:06:46 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The problem is that Bush has said that on a number of occasions. Now Bush and the RNC have a huge oppurtunity slamming Kerry on his position of 527's.

Imagine a commercial where it starts off with 65 million dollars in negative advertising, flash hitler commercial, The president has called for an end to all 527's, flash quotes from various newspapers, Kerry has embraced them flash graph showing Kerry ties to 527's and he even hired the internet coordinator for MoveOn.org, flash hitler commercial again, end quote"Tell John Kerry to join the President in calling an end to all 527 negative advertising"


137 posted on 08/23/2004 1:07:07 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

"Shooting himself in the foot again"???? No way! He is being very smart. He is saying what he has to say to put Kerry in a corner. Believe me, the vets know exactly what the President is doing.......and approve. Fact is, they know and Bush knows (and, heh! heh!, the Demos know), that because of the stupid McCain/Feingold Campaign Finance "Reform", there is not a thing that legally can be done to stop those ads. The Democrats are kicking themselves for nominating Kerry. They would have been better off with Gore again.....believe it or not.


138 posted on 08/23/2004 1:07:34 PM PDT by Winfield (sham)
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To: Paul_B

And if you know that you are going to be misquoted, you shouldn't say anything. Or say something that is less likely to be spun.


139 posted on 08/23/2004 1:07:39 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: e_castillo

the Bush campaign never planned on running any negative ads about Kerry's vietnam era antics. I can't see how this restricts them from doing something they weren't going to do anyway. its like me being restricted from skydiving.

I still say the key now is to shift the focus to the message of the second ad. the first ad is becoming a "we said/he said".


140 posted on 08/23/2004 1:07:56 PM PDT by oceanview
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