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1 posted on 08/23/2004 12:25:14 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War
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To: Dont Mention the War; Peach; Mudboy Slim; 4ConservativeJustices; Owl_Eagle; cyncooper; Howlin; ...
Christopher Hitchens on Kerry/SBVs ping!

Now that Hitchens and Nat Hentoff have turned on him, the rest of the mainstream press will start to get their nibbles in, except of course for the dead-ender Kool-Aid Brigade. This could start to get fun!

What will be interesting is to see how the Clinton bunch plays this. My hunch is they'll do the public stuff to appear like good DNC supporters, but won't do anything behind-the-scenes to help Lt. John F. Kalley bail the water as it starts to leak in not only from starboard, but from port as well!

2 posted on 08/23/2004 12:33:03 PM PDT by HenryLeeII (sultan88, R.I.P.)
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"...then it was highly incautious of him to have made it the centerpiece of his appeal."

Even the always blunt Hitchens cannot escape classic British understatement.


3 posted on 08/23/2004 12:33:45 PM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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This is the BEST "Bang for your political buck" - EVER!

Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.


6 posted on 08/23/2004 12:37:07 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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Hitchens is always an interesting read.

It's difficult to imagine that a Jane Fonda Mimbo was actually nominated for the Presidency. Kerry's Viet Nam experience, from any and all perspectives, appears corrupt.

He's always been a kept man, a Manchurian Candidate doing the bidding of globalists and foreign powers.

7 posted on 08/23/2004 12:37:41 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Hey, RNC! Get Bob Dylan to sing "Saving Grace" at the Convention!)
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Hitchens says the SwiftVets have a right to speak, and it was stupid for Kerry to make Vietnam his centerpiece. But he (Hitchens) can't, for he life of him, figure out who is telling the truth about Kerry's service. This, in spite of the fact that Kerry has now admitted to falsifying his war record for political gain. But it was all so long ago, and both sides, from Hitchens' point of view, were equally misled or corrupt. We...just...can't...be...sure.

Nonesense. The case against Kerry is compelling. Hitchens derides those who take refuge in "the fog of war" defense, and then proceeds to take refuge in the fog of history.

9 posted on 08/23/2004 12:44:06 PM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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12 posted on 08/23/2004 12:51:31 PM PDT by federal
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HEY MR. KERRY...

YOU CAN'T BE BOTH ANTI-WAR AND SGT. YORK AT THE SAME TIME!!
(dummy)

even your liberal buddies have that much common sense!


13 posted on 08/23/2004 12:52:56 PM PDT by Chewbacco (I actually had a tagline, before I erased it)
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ping


14 posted on 08/23/2004 12:55:40 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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(I am pretty sure, though, that he was unwise to prompt the release of the photograph of himself with his latest long-silent defender, William Rood of the Chicago Tribune. The shot of Kerry awkwardly shouldering a rocket launcher for the camera makes him look like a complete poseur.)

Anyone have this picture to post?

16 posted on 08/23/2004 12:59:49 PM PDT by TX Bluebonnet
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A great piece, well worth the extra click to read in its entirety. I espeically liked:

Did Kerry imagine that if he dressed up in his old uniform again, his former critics would decide to keep quiet? What, if anything, was he thinking?

A question that has a clear answer. Kerry was thinking that the leftwing media would do exactly what it's doing....spin the story in his favor. Thanks, Hitch, for rising above the swamp the other mudslingers inhabit.

18 posted on 08/23/2004 1:05:17 PM PDT by Veto! (Kerry wears a tutu, TeRAYza wears the pants)
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Meanwhile, even odder things are happening to Kerry's "left." Michael Moore, whose film Kerry's people have drawn upon in making cracks about the president and the My Pet Goat moment, repeatedly says that you can't comment on the Iraq war—or at least not in favor of it—if you haven't shown a willingness to send a son to die there. Comes the question—what if you haven't got a son of military age?

Spot on, Mr. Hitchens.

19 posted on 08/23/2004 1:07:47 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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Reference bump.


20 posted on 08/23/2004 1:09:35 PM PDT by Rocko (John Kerry: "Standard bearer for the unbearable.")
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See, this is why the President doesn't need to talk about the Swift Boat ads. There are lots of folks out there doing it for him!


23 posted on 08/23/2004 1:20:33 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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This was a combat of more than 30 years ago, fought with a largely drafted army using indiscriminate tactics and weaponry against a deep-rooted and long-running domestic insurgency......

'Insurgency', That's the understatement of the year.

And more than that, they have done something eye-rubbingly unprincipled, doing what Reagan and Kissinger could not do: rehabilitating the notion of the Vietnam horror as "a noble cause."

Perhaps Mr. Hitchens forgets the atrocities committed by the Viet Cong 'insurgents'.
The Viet Nam War was every bit as noble as our involvement in Kosovo.

I like Hitchens although I disagree with him most of the time. His wordsmithing is superb.
His dissing Clinton and Kerry we agree on, the reasons, no.

26 posted on 08/23/2004 1:26:54 PM PDT by Vinnie
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THANKS. Much appreciated.


27 posted on 08/23/2004 1:40:24 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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If Kerry doesn't like people disputing his own version of his own gallantry, then it was highly incautious of him to have made it the centerpiece of his appeal.

Good one.

29 posted on 08/23/2004 2:12:38 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("The Democratic machine in this country is putrid." Teresa Heinz, 1975)
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If Kerry doesn't like people disputing his own version of his own gallantry, then it was highly incautious of him to have made it the centerpiece of his appeal.

I have to add that even if Kerry's own versions of events are accurate (and I for one am unconvinced), isn't it kind of tedious, this constant harping on his own heroism? Isn't it kind of distasteful and low-rent? What kind of boorish creep goes around calling himself a hero? That in and of itself is distinctly un-heroic. He should have learned that in that finishing school in Switzerland.

30 posted on 08/23/2004 2:20:30 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("The Democratic machine in this country is putrid." Teresa Heinz, 1975)
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"This was a combat of more than 30 years ago ..."

This is true and it is also true that those who served and were accused by John Freakin' Kerry of being war criminals probably carry the memories of their return from Viet Nam as though it happened yesterday. Thus far in the discussions, I believe the Swift Vets are infinitely more credible than the pimps of the Kerry Campaign. By the way, how many of them served on his PCF and know the facts first hand?
31 posted on 08/23/2004 2:33:30 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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Does Hitchens actually like anybody?
33 posted on 08/23/2004 2:59:16 PM PDT by RogueIsland
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