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Not So Swift: John Kerry's dubious Vietnam revisionism (By Christopher Hitchens)
Slate ^ | August 23, 2004 | Christopher Hitchens

Posted on 08/23/2004 12:25:13 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War

Not So Swift

John Kerry's dubious Vietnam revisionism.

By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Monday, Aug. 23, 2004, at 12:11 PM PT

John Kerry actually claims to have shot a fleeing Viet Cong soldier from the riverbank, something that I personally would have kept very quiet about. He used to claim that he was a witness to, and almost a participant in, much worse than that. So what if he has been telling the absolute truth all along? In what sense, in other words, does his participation in a shameful war qualify him to be president of the United States? This was a combat of more than 30 years ago, fought with a largely drafted army using indiscriminate tactics and weaponry against a deep-rooted and long-running domestic insurgency. (The biochemical dioxin, for example, was employed to destroy the vegetation in the Mekong Delta and make life easier for the swift boats.) The experience of having fought in such a war is absolutely useless to any American today and has no bearing on any thinkable fight in which the United States could now become engaged. Thus, only the "character" issues involved are of any weight, and these are extremely difficult and subjective matters. If Kerry doesn't like people disputing his own version of his own gallantry, then it was highly incautious of him to have made it the centerpiece of his appeal.

The Democrats have made a rod for their own backs in uncritically applauding their candidate's ramrod-and-salute posture. They have also implicitly subverted one of the most important principles of the republic, which is civilian control over military decisions. And more than that, they have done something eye-rubbingly unprincipled, doing what Reagan and Kissinger could not do: rehabilitating the notion of the Vietnam horror as "a noble cause."

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hitchens; keptman; kerry; manchuriancandidate; mimbo; swiftboatveterans; zombie
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1 posted on 08/23/2004 12:25:14 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War
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To: Dont Mention the War; Peach; Mudboy Slim; 4ConservativeJustices; Owl_Eagle; cyncooper; Howlin; ...
Christopher Hitchens on Kerry/SBVs ping!

Now that Hitchens and Nat Hentoff have turned on him, the rest of the mainstream press will start to get their nibbles in, except of course for the dead-ender Kool-Aid Brigade. This could start to get fun!

What will be interesting is to see how the Clinton bunch plays this. My hunch is they'll do the public stuff to appear like good DNC supporters, but won't do anything behind-the-scenes to help Lt. John F. Kalley bail the water as it starts to leak in not only from starboard, but from port as well!

2 posted on 08/23/2004 12:33:03 PM PDT by HenryLeeII (sultan88, R.I.P.)
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To: Dont Mention the War

"...then it was highly incautious of him to have made it the centerpiece of his appeal."

Even the always blunt Hitchens cannot escape classic British understatement.


3 posted on 08/23/2004 12:33:45 PM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: HenryLeeII

LOL. I generally enjoy reading Hitchens and will check the article out. Thanks!


4 posted on 08/23/2004 12:33:56 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: HenryLeeII
"...they'll do the public stuff to appear like good DNC supporters, but won't do anything behind-the-scenes to help Lt. John F. Kalley"

There's nothing they can do to save Kerry...this is the beginning of the end fer Hanoi John's candidacy.

FReegards...MUD

5 posted on 08/23/2004 12:35:49 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Dont Mention the War
This is the BEST "Bang for your political buck" - EVER!

Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.


6 posted on 08/23/2004 12:37:07 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Hitchens is always an interesting read.

It's difficult to imagine that a Jane Fonda Mimbo was actually nominated for the Presidency. Kerry's Viet Nam experience, from any and all perspectives, appears corrupt.

He's always been a kept man, a Manchurian Candidate doing the bidding of globalists and foreign powers.

7 posted on 08/23/2004 12:37:41 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Hey, RNC! Get Bob Dylan to sing "Saving Grace" at the Convention!)
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To: HenryLeeII

Hillary was probably the one who told John F'n Kerry to run on his Vietnam record.


8 posted on 08/23/2004 12:44:06 PM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Hitchens says the SwiftVets have a right to speak, and it was stupid for Kerry to make Vietnam his centerpiece. But he (Hitchens) can't, for he life of him, figure out who is telling the truth about Kerry's service. This, in spite of the fact that Kerry has now admitted to falsifying his war record for political gain. But it was all so long ago, and both sides, from Hitchens' point of view, were equally misled or corrupt. We...just...can't...be...sure.

Nonesense. The case against Kerry is compelling. Hitchens derides those who take refuge in "the fog of war" defense, and then proceeds to take refuge in the fog of history.

9 posted on 08/23/2004 12:44:06 PM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: Mudboy Slim
There's nothing they can do to save Kerry...this is the beginning of the end fer Hanoi John's candidacy.

For the future of the Republic and the Free World, I do hope you are correct. Or else, you'll be re-writing "Its the End of the World as We Know it" come November 3!

10 posted on 08/23/2004 12:47:46 PM PDT by HenryLeeII (sultan88, R.I.P.)
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To: HenryLeeII

Bump for the flaming liberal who has the guts to tell other libs when they're babies are ugly!!!


11 posted on 08/23/2004 12:50:29 PM PDT by Joe Republc
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To: Dont Mention the War

bookmark


12 posted on 08/23/2004 12:51:31 PM PDT by federal
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To: Dont Mention the War

HEY MR. KERRY...

YOU CAN'T BE BOTH ANTI-WAR AND SGT. YORK AT THE SAME TIME!!
(dummy)

even your liberal buddies have that much common sense!


13 posted on 08/23/2004 12:52:56 PM PDT by Chewbacco (I actually had a tagline, before I erased it)
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To: Dont Mention the War

ping


14 posted on 08/23/2004 12:55:40 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Peach

Hitchens is a top notch debater.


15 posted on 08/23/2004 12:58:52 PM PDT by Lori675
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To: Dont Mention the War
(I am pretty sure, though, that he was unwise to prompt the release of the photograph of himself with his latest long-silent defender, William Rood of the Chicago Tribune. The shot of Kerry awkwardly shouldering a rocket launcher for the camera makes him look like a complete poseur.)

Anyone have this picture to post?

16 posted on 08/23/2004 12:59:49 PM PDT by TX Bluebonnet
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To: HenryLeeII

Clinton can have nothing to say about this issue. He was a draft dodger. Clinton defending Kerry on wartime service would be like Charlie Manson testifying as a character witness for Scott Peterson!


17 posted on 08/23/2004 1:02:03 PM PDT by laishly
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To: Dont Mention the War
A great piece, well worth the extra click to read in its entirety. I espeically liked:

Did Kerry imagine that if he dressed up in his old uniform again, his former critics would decide to keep quiet? What, if anything, was he thinking?

A question that has a clear answer. Kerry was thinking that the leftwing media would do exactly what it's doing....spin the story in his favor. Thanks, Hitch, for rising above the swamp the other mudslingers inhabit.

18 posted on 08/23/2004 1:05:17 PM PDT by Veto! (Kerry wears a tutu, TeRAYza wears the pants)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Meanwhile, even odder things are happening to Kerry's "left." Michael Moore, whose film Kerry's people have drawn upon in making cracks about the president and the My Pet Goat moment, repeatedly says that you can't comment on the Iraq war—or at least not in favor of it—if you haven't shown a willingness to send a son to die there. Comes the question—what if you haven't got a son of military age?

Spot on, Mr. Hitchens.

19 posted on 08/23/2004 1:07:47 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: Dont Mention the War

Reference bump.


20 posted on 08/23/2004 1:09:35 PM PDT by Rocko (John Kerry: "Standard bearer for the unbearable.")
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