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1 posted on 08/23/2004 6:41:24 AM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica

Looks like he did to me. But will anything come of it? No. I can't remember if UCMJ has a statute of limitations. But the violation is clear.


3 posted on 08/23/2004 6:46:19 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy, PBWD, Secretary of Humor and Tomfoolery)
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To: veronica

WILL KERRY TESTIFY (RAT OUT) BEFORE THE U.N. IF HE DISAGREES WITH AMERICAN POLICY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT HE IS ALREADY APPEALING TO KOFI ANAN TO HOLD HEARINGS AGAINST BUSH AND AMERICA IF HE LOSES.


4 posted on 08/23/2004 6:47:50 AM PDT by Chewbacco (I actually had a tagline, before I erased it)
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To: veronica
In one word he!! yes :)
5 posted on 08/23/2004 6:48:26 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (GEORGE WASHINGTON is nothing like a communist tyrant as stated by Kerry.)
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To: veronica

Not to mention falsifying testimony on offical US Navy documents (after action reports...requests for citations and medals)?


6 posted on 08/23/2004 6:53:52 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: veronica
or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy

It depends on what the meaning of "intercourse" is.

7 posted on 08/23/2004 6:55:06 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: veronica

He has admitted to War Crimes while in Vietnam. Of course he has UCMJ.


8 posted on 08/23/2004 6:55:33 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: veronica; BlueLancer; Poohbah; aculeus
Interesting.

Bump, and pings to some well-versed in the UCMJ.

10 posted on 08/23/2004 6:56:32 AM PDT by dighton
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To: veronica

Kerry clearly violated the oath of office he he signed as a Naval Officer. This alone should have gotten him jail time.


11 posted on 08/23/2004 7:07:05 AM PDT by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: veronica

SURPRISE!!!!!! Swifties are just making him squirm a little bit.......for now,at least :)

COINTELPRO 5/14/68
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/1553/fbi51468.html

COINTELPRO: The Untold American Story
http://www.jackblood.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/cointelpro.htm

Okay, here it is -- the mother lode of FBI files on Vietnam Veterans Against the War. This archive contains 21,477 pages of documents received in response to our Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, bundled up by the FBI as PDF-format Files of Unusual Size.
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040518192545112

This propaganda was also used against American soldiers in Vietnam. An interrogation report of an Enemy Proselytizing cadre stated "Photographs of peace movements had been sent to COSVN by the peace organizations in the US and these were used in the leaflets (NFI) and sometimes produced by the Source himself."…….. McCain for his inexplicable demeanor during the Select Committee hearing when he routinely attacked witnesses who suggested that the government's efforts in this issue had been less than exemplary. The current Vice President of the U.S. Trade Council is Ms. Francis Zwenig, who served as Chief of Staff for the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA. Ms. Zwenig had also served as Legislative Assistant to Sen. John Kerry………the Senate Select Committee adjourned, some of the key personnel assigned to the Committee quickly seized high salaried positions within the U.S./Vietnam Trade Council, a business group designed to facilitate normalization and trade between the U.S. and Vietnam………Sen. Harkin visited Vietnam on July 4th, 1995, in which he also praised their cooperation in solving the POW/MIA issue. Upon returning to the U.S., Sen. Harkin personally briefed President Clinton and encouraged him to move forward in the normalization process, to include access by American businesses in Vietnam to the Overseas Private Investment Corp. Insurance (OPIC). However, MIA family members were alarmed to discover that his wife is President and CEO of this organization. This organization is designed to "bail out" American investors from potential failures due to Vietnamese government reneging on business contracts and financial investments……..Several elected officials of the U.S. government have also called for normalization with Vietnam, including Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts and Senator Tom Harkin of Iowa. Sen. Kerry has remarked publicly on Vietnam's "superb" cooperation, and he has been seen by many as championing Vietnam's attempts to lift the economic embargo and diplomatic sanctions.
http://www.pownetwork.org/docs/part2.htm

(L.A. Times, March 22, 2004) Kerry, now the presumed Democratic presidential nominee, has long known he was a target of FBI surveillance, but only last week learned the extent of the scrutiny, he told The Times
http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2004/kerry_vvaw_cointelpro.html


12 posted on 08/23/2004 7:10:13 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: veronica
John Kerry should never have been allowed to run for public office! Not just for aiding the enemy but for being such a 60's geek!
14 posted on 08/23/2004 7:16:23 AM PDT by jetson (throne)
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To: veronica

My personal opinion regarding Kerry is such him being a 'TRAITOR' because not only did he negogiate deals with the Communists, but also caused additional torture on the POW's. Kerry was NOT discharged from the NAVY until 1978 - therefore, his actions amounts that of an 'Traitor'.


19 posted on 08/23/2004 8:01:14 AM PDT by Inge C
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To: veronica

I think he is pond scum, but none of the above matters. He will never under any circumstances be prosecuted or disqualified from office. Move past this and work to defeat him in the election.


20 posted on 08/23/2004 8:06:45 AM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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This is the BEST "Bang for your political buck" - EVER!

Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.


23 posted on 08/23/2004 8:30:45 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: veronica

Doesn't this link support aid and comfort to the enemy too?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1189018/posts?page=14#14


29 posted on 08/23/2004 9:13:58 AM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: veronica; Hon

Thanks for the digging, and the post.

From the archives...

Kerry Honeymooned With The Vietcong And North Vietnamese in May 1970
  Posted by Hon
On News/Activism 03/25/2004 8:12:06 AM PST · 34 replies · 62+ views


March 25, 2004 | Compiled
As many here might recall, I have been posting about John Kerry's meetings with the Vietcong and North Vietnamese since early February. I found a photograph in Staciewicz's book, Winter Soldier, which shows the VVAW meeting with the delegations of the enemy in March of 1971: First peace meeting between VVAW and the NLF, Paris, 1971 And I knew from Kerry's own testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that he had also gone to Paris and met with these groups. LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS RELATING TO THE WAR IN SOUTHEAST ASIA THURSDAY, APRIL 22, 1971 UNITED STATES SENATE; COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN...

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UPI Report: Kerry Met With 'Viet Cong' Leaders In Paris in 1971
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On News/Activism 03/22/2004 7:04:54 PM PST · 33 replies · 99+ views


United Press International ^ | March 9, 2004 | United Press International
http://www.upi.com Another site, Wintersoldier.com, places records from Sen. Kerry's anti-war protests online, including the transcript of the full question and answer session before a U.S. Senate committee, where the young Vietnam veteran detailed, among other activities, his trip as a civilian to the Paris Peace talks involving the U.S., South Vietnamese and North Vietnamese governments. "I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks -- that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government," Kerry said during testimony on April 22, 1971, before the Foreign Relations Committee, according to...

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Kerry Met With Viet Cong And North Vietnamese In Paris In 1971
  Posted by Hon
On News/Activism 03/06/2004 12:21:15 AM PST · 222 replies · 2,593+ views


Congressional Record ^ | March 6, 2004 | John F. Kerry
A couple of weeks ago I posted this thread about a photograph that I wound in a book about Kerry's group, the Vietnam Veterans Against The War: Kerry's Group Met With The Viet Cong In Paris In 1971 The Vietnam Veterans Against The War (VVAW) sent their own delegation to Paris to meet with the representatives of the National Liberation Front (AKA Viet Cong) in 1971. At this time John Kerry was their spokesman and defacto leader. This photograph is from the book "The Winter Soldiers", by Richard Stacewicz, page 284: Caption: First peace meeting between VVAW and the NLF,...

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Kerry's Group Met With The Viet Cong In Paris In 1971
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On News/Activism 02/19/2004 10:25:55 AM PST · 46 replies · 424+ views


The Winter Soldiers | 1997 | Richard Stacewicz
<p>The Vietnam Veterans Against The War (VVAW) sent their own delegation to Paris to meet with the representatives of the National Liberation Front (AKA Viet Cong) in 1971. At this time John Kerry was their spokesman and defacto leader.</p> <p>Caption: First peace meeting between VVAW and the NLF, Paris, 1971.</p>

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30 posted on 08/23/2004 9:14:45 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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BUMP FOR THE SUPPORT OF SWIFT VETS HERE... http://www.swiftvets.com/


31 posted on 08/23/2004 9:15:38 AM PDT by freddiedavis
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To: Hon

What we know:

John Kerry, in sworn testimony before the Senate in April 1971, said he met with the North Vietnamese and Vietcong delegations in Paris in May 1970. He said they discussed their peace proposals -- especially the eight points of Madam Binh. Kerry strongly recommended that the Senate accept those proposals.

I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points...

…I realize that even my visits in Paris, precedents had been set by Senator McCarthy and others, in a sense are on the borderline of private individuals negotiating, et cetera.

In the ensuing months, Kerry became even more strident in his insistence that the US accept Madam Binh's (and the NVM and VC's) peace proposals.

Meanwhile, other representatives of Kerry's group, the Vietnam Veterans Against The War (VVAW ), met with the NVM and VC delegations in Paris, in March 1971. They were even photographed sitting at a table with them, as in a photo displayed in Winter Soldiers, by Richard Stacewicz, page 284: 

Subsequently, VVAW representatives met with the North Vietnamese and Vietcong delegations on numerous occasions, both in Paris and even in Hanoi.

The VVAW even signed a treaty with the North Vietnamese which included all of Madam Binh's points, as noted by the historian of the anti-war movement, Gerald Nicosia, his book Home To War: 

One one of those archived threads, back here, we had some uncertainty as to when Kerry actually went to Paris, because of the vague language of his campaign, which initually implied that Kerry went to Paris for his honeymoon following his May, 1970 marriage to his first wife. We later learned that the newlyweds honeymooned in Jamaica.

Now I'm even a little more confused, because when Kerry described multiple "visits" in Paris, it's unclear if he's describing visits with multiple delegations there, or if he went to Paris more than once. Is there any statement on the record by either Kerry or his campaign on those points?

It would be most interesting to know if Kerry went to Paris following the Wintersoldier meetings in December of 1970 and prior to the VVAW's visit in March of 1971. If so, and if Kerry's visit was advance work for the VVAW, then couldn't the charges against him also include conspiriacy to violate the USMJ?


32 posted on 08/23/2004 9:47:44 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: veronica
My Favorite post for dims and trolls
who slither in here each day.
And the Lame Stream media
who find the real news on Free Republic,
then rewrite and spin the truth.


ATTN : ABC CBS CNN FOX NBC
William B. Rood was not actually ON Kerry's boat.


Exposing Kerry's Vietnam "record"
WITHOUT
mention of Swift Boat Vets Thread


Mommy Heinz!
Help!


Look what the Washington Post said on 8/21/04

"Although Kerry campaign officials insist that they have published Kerry's full military records on their Web site (with the exception of medical records shown briefly to reporters earlier this year), they have not permitted independent access to his original Navy records. A Freedom of Information Act request by The Post for Kerry's records produced six pages of information. A spokesman for the Navy Personnel Command, Mike McClellan, said he was not authorized to release the full file, which consists of at least a hundred pages. "

Look! What the Harvard Crimson wrote about me in 1970

Published on Wednesday, February 18, 1970
John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress
By SAMUEL Z. GOLDHABER
Crimson Staff Writer

"...One time Kerry was ordered to destroy a Viet Cong village
but disobeyed orders and suggested that the Navy Command
simply send in a Psychological Warfare team to be
friend the villagers with food, hospital supplies,
and better educational facilities."



Now my shipmates on the
USS GRIDLEY CG-21
are attacking me.

Click Here Mommy
and see what
the USS GRIDLEY crew say.


They say I told lies in Tour of Duty
GRIDLEY CREW ARE LIKE
SWIFT BOAT VETS MEANIES!

Mommy : People can get
MY real book here, right now, online FREE!!

I'm so proud of it!
The New Soldier,
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War



Mommy : Please don't be mad
about my hero Al Hubbard.

Head of Kerry's Vietnam Vets Against the War was Vietnam Vet phony
"Many of the stories were later shown to be fictional. Other so-called Vietnam veterans, such as the executive secretary of VVAW, Al Hubbard, a self-styled poet ("See what you've become, Amerika," ends one of his Vietnam odes),
turned out to have no record of service in Vietnam."



Mommy : Why does McCain
still campaign with Bush?
Mommy : Why doesn't Al Gore defend me?
He is a Vietnam Vet.

Mommy : Did Hillary
"leak" FBI Files on me?
I even used her famous slogan?


"Kerry entered and abandoned Vietnamese village and slaughtered domestic animals
owned by the civilians and burned down their homes with his Zippo lighter."




It only takes one idiot to raze a village!
(My original response!)


Mommy : Where is Ted Kennedy?




33 posted on 08/23/2004 10:47:22 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree, sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: veronica

Excellent article. This is one of the most outrageous of Kerry's post-"four months in Vietnam" activities, in my opinion.


34 posted on 08/23/2004 10:59:02 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: veronica
Sounds like JFK is in trouble to me.

Maybe the swiftees will swear out a complaint

Perhaps an FR legal type knows how to do this?

36 posted on 08/23/2004 11:40:42 AM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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