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DON'T GET SPUN! Part 1: True Context of 2/15/00 Bush-McCain Clash In Kerry Smear Ad
CNN ^ | February 15, 2000 | CNN Transcripts; Bush, McCain, Keyes, Larry King

Posted on 08/22/2004 10:40:16 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee

MCCAIN: You should be ashamed -- you should be ashamed of sponsoring an event with that man there who had attacked your own father.

BUSH: The man was not speaking for me. If you want to know my opinion about you, John, you served our country admirably and strongly, and I'm proud of your record, just like you are.

And I don't appreciate what he said about my dad, either. But let me say something, if you're going to be -- hold me responsible for what people for me say, I'm going to do the same for you. And let me give you one example.

Warren Rudman, the man who you had as your campaign man in New Hampshire, said about the Christian Coalition that they're bigots. He talked about the Christian Coalition in a way that was incredibly strong. I know you don't believe that, do you?

MCCAIN: George, he's entitled to his opinion on that issue.

BUSH: Well, so is this man.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 229; ads; bush; bushmccain; kerry; keyes; mccain; mckerry; mcpain; sbvt; smear; swiftboatveterans; swiftvets
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To: the_Watchman
"Why would they pull it? They didn't pull the Swiftvet picture from the website when requested."

Because McCain is the media's favorite Republican and they love him. If McCain made a public statement demanding the ads be pulled he would get air time very quickly.

We haven't heard so much as a peep out of him.

41 posted on 08/22/2004 11:42:13 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
McCain and Keyes both need to leave the party that they are using for their own political gain. The sooner, the better. As a Republican, I find them both counter-productive to the Conservative cause. They are both "pseudo Republicans.".
42 posted on 08/22/2004 11:42:31 PM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: LisaMalia

Don't forget pat buchanan and his latest, just in time for the elections, anti-Bush book.


43 posted on 08/22/2004 11:43:23 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I totally agree.

But McCain is allowing it and the reason escapes me.

He has a big speech comming at the convention. Perhaps they are letting the dems run with it until they chop their legs off. I just don't know....................................

44 posted on 08/22/2004 11:44:51 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: CWOJackson

McCain is only in it for himself. Afterall, he has the media on his side, because the media keeps calling him a "media darling". Even if something going on in Washington doesn't involve McCain, McCain is the "go to guy" as far as the media is concerned.


45 posted on 08/22/2004 11:45:08 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: LisaMalia

BINGO!


46 posted on 08/22/2004 11:46:50 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
That's what I've been trying to say. McCain COULD stop this in a second. He won't because his hatred of President Bush is on par with his love of himself.

Unfortunately for the Republicans and Conservative America, there are people like McCain, and now pat buchanan again, who are so bitter, petty and self absorbed, they will sell out the nation for their own purposes.

47 posted on 08/22/2004 11:47:37 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
I know I'm guilty of having made this exact same joke fifty or eighty times before... but: I still don't see why we can't just go ahead and trade McCain for Miller, and a Lieberman to be named later. :)
48 posted on 08/22/2004 11:50:16 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Agreed. I'd even take Sam Nunn out of retirement.


49 posted on 08/22/2004 11:54:00 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
That's what I've been trying to say. McCain COULD stop this in a second. He won't because his hatred of President Bush is on par with his love of himself.

He's probably the most self-absorbed politician, short of the Clintons, that I have seen in a while.

50 posted on 08/22/2004 11:54:26 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: CWOJackson

I don't think that McCain would pull media time if it embarrassed the Dems. The media is for the Dems. They put up with McCain because they hope he runs on the Republican ticket so that they can slap at the right wing of the Republican party.

Does anyone here believe that if McCain were the Republican nominee anything would be any different about the media coverage of the Swiftvets? EVERYTHING would be the same.


51 posted on 08/22/2004 11:54:55 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: the_Watchman

Everything WOULD be the same. McCain would be denouncing the Swiftee's and the media would be trashing them.


52 posted on 08/22/2004 11:58:31 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: the_Watchman

They would give McCain air time. McCain is a walking ego with an attitude. Whichever network/reporter didn't give him air time would never get another anti-Bush statement out of him again.


53 posted on 08/22/2004 11:58:42 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

If a reporter or reporterette failed to stick a microphone in front of McCain's face, they'd get fired.


54 posted on 08/23/2004 12:00:32 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Most Senators already have tremendous egos...McCain has taken that to unparalleled heights.

Look at his vicious meltdown during the debates...the man when bonkers. If a reporter ever crossed him...wow!

55 posted on 08/23/2004 12:04:58 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Look at his vicious meltdown during the debates...the man when bonkers.

...And John McCain and Howard Dean wonder why the hell they lost.

56 posted on 08/23/2004 12:11:39 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: CWOJackson
Don't forget pat buchanan and his latest, just in time for the elections, anti-Bush book.

What? Buke's already left the GOP. It was more dramatic than an opus from a ex-Freeper.

Of course, he's no longer a member of the Reform Party either...because he destroyed it.

57 posted on 08/23/2004 12:28:12 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Hey, KERRY! We said it to Saddam, and now to you -- If you have nothing to hide, QUIT HIDING IT!)
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To: L.N. Smithee
I believe he indeeded a power play for the Tupperware Party next but they headed him off.

Look at it this way, buchanan's latest efforts to throw the election to the left can be a blessing in disguise. It's not just in time for the elections, it's also in time for Christmas shopping. His latest version of the same ol' book would make an excellent gift for that hard to buy for skinhead on your shopping list.

And the best thing is, in just three days it's price has dropped from $24.95 to $16.97...plummeting faster then his last presidental campaign.

58 posted on 08/23/2004 12:31:52 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: LisaMalia
McCain and Keyes both need to leave the party that they are using for their own political gain.

McCain, definitely. Keyes? As much as I love the guy's personal stances and his speaking ability, he has a tendency to just go goofy.

I haven't even bothered to check out the Illinois situation. He's going to get his clock cleaned by Obama. The only good thing about that whole situation is that Mike Ditka isn't running.

Come to think of it, it's a good thing for Ditka, too. It would ruin his image to get his zazzkict by a guy you'd think he could break in half over his knee.

59 posted on 08/23/2004 12:35:30 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Hey, KERRY! We said it to Saddam, and now to you -- If you have nothing to hide, QUIT HIDING IT!)
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To: nopardons

Well .. from the looks of that lump on the side of his face, his goose isn't doing too well.


60 posted on 08/23/2004 12:42:47 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: The only way to Peace is through Victory!)
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