Posted on 08/22/2004 10:08:07 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton
Exposed: Scandal of double voters
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With debate over the 2000 election still raging, thousands of people illegally register in both New York City and Florida, which could swing an election.
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Registering in two places is illegal in both states, but the massive snowbird scandal goes undetected because election officials don't check rolls across state lines. The finding is even more stunning given the pivotal role Florida played in the 2000 presidential election, when a margin there of 537 votes tipped a victory to George W. Bush. Computer records analyzed by The News don't allow for an exact count of how many people vote in both places, because millions of names are regularly purged between elections. But The News found that between 400 and 1,000 registered voters have voted twice in at least one election, a federal offense punishable by up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine. One was Norman Siegel, 84, who is registered as a Republican in both Pinellas Park, Fla., and Briarwood, Queens. Siegel has voted twice in seven elections, including the last four presidential races, records show.
Officials in both states acknowledge that voting in multiple states is something of a perfect crime, one officials don't have the means to catch.
"I can't imagine how the supervisors would have access to that information," said Jenny Nash, spokeswoman for the Florida secretary of state. "As far as I know, cross-state registry has not been discussed." The News' investigation also found:
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I dunno, they seem to be able to do a pretty good job on eliminating drivers' licenses from multiple states.
I fear that this is ultimately the Democrats strategy. Why do you think that there is a HUGE increase in absentee ballots this year in the southern/western snowbird swing states of Florida, New Mexico, Arizona and Nevada?
The Dems know it is virtually impossible to cross check multi-registered voters and any indication of fraud will come AFTER the election, when it's too late.
As Bill Clinton proved, all you have to do is lie all the way up until Election Day. After that, it doesn't matter.
> An advocacy group, People for the American Way, has asked
> U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft to open a federal probe.
My take is that the real point of this article is to put
the double-voters on notice that someone is watching,
even if it isn't the NY or FL Attorney General.
Getting the word out could forestall a lot of this fraud.
LG: > Every one of these fraudsters should be prosecuted.
They wouldn't be doing unless they thought no one would
catch them.
Nonetheless, it would be interesting for Bush to ask
Kerry where he stands on prosecuting double-voters.
If Bush gets re-elected, and gains more control of the
Senate, we really need some election reform. I'm not
sure it's winning campaign issue, tho.
Rhetorical question, right? ;)
bump
"I dunno, they seem to be able to do a pretty good job on eliminating drivers' licenses from multiple states."
That's exactly whats supposed to happen with voter registration. Hasn't anybody on this board ever moved to a different state? Your home state is supposed to cancel your registration when you register in the new state. So I'm not so sure the voters are the ones to blame in this instance.
Yes
When double registrants are found, confirm and then delete them from the voter roles.
Sadly, this goes on everywhere. We caught some guys red-handed who were double-voting for the county commissioner two years ago.
Since we a dem controlled county, nothing ever came of it.
Cross linking: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1196759/posts
For information reference.
I own property in four cities and two states. Seems to me that as a property owner I should have a voice in each city and each state.
Nevada, especially Las Vegas a democrat stronghold, should check theirs also. I found while working at a cable company there are many snowbirds here.
You beat me to the punch.
We have all kinds of systems in place to prevent people from having 2 or more drivers licenses. There is a law called something like "mutual reciprocity" between states. So if I get a speeding ticket in NH and don't pay it because I have an MA license, they still can bag me.
THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT AND SACRED RIGHTS WE HAVE, YET IT IS NOT PROTECTED!
sorry for shouting but this just ticks me off big time.
I agree completely. The FEC needs to do what they are getting paid to do and stop waiting to act after the fact.
Just to add to my own anger,
"Some 46,000 New Yorkers are registered to vote in both the city and Florida"
Notice the word city. That does not mean NY State. There are plenty of people in Nassau/Suffolk, and the lower counties that are snow birds. I bet you could triple that number of people registered in both STATES.
SO it is okay for me to be taxed in each jurisdiction but NOT Represented?
Do the people in Nassau and Suffolk counties vote Democrat at the same rate as those in NYC?
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