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Posted on 08/20/2004 9:24:23 PM PDT by LowNslow
Found slanderous Swiftvets.org site while attemping to donate to the Swifties efforts. Need help putting 2+2 together.
Common link seems to be Democracy for America and Change for America. Both have state orgs links that ref to The New Organization of Gov Howard Dean. WSC1.JOMAX.NET is another common. I could not ID 216.21.228.13.
I'm new at this, as vet would like to know who is behind these efforts. I'm sure all the dots lead to DNC, but how?
Domain ID:D104313825-LROR
Domain Name:SWIFTVETS.ORG
Created On:06-May-2004 17:58:20 UTC
Last Updated On:06-Jul-2004 03:49:45 UTC
Expiration Date:06-May-2005 17:58:20 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R91-LROR
Status:OK
Registrant ID:GODA-06499111
Registrant Name:Registration Private
Registrant Organization:Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Registrant Street1:15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
Registrant Street2:PMB353
Registrant City:Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province:Arizona
Registrant Postal Code:85260
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.4806242599
Registrant Email:SWIFTVETS.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com
Admin ID:GODA-26499111
Admin Name:Registration Private
Admin Organization:Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Admin Street1:15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
Admin Street2:PMB353
Admin City:Scottsdale
Admin State/Province:Arizona
Admin Postal Code:85260
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.4806242599
Admin Email:SWIFTVETS.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com
Tech ID:GODA-16499111
Tech Name:Registration Private
Tech Organization:Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Tech Street1:15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
Tech Street2:PMB353
Tech City:Scottsdale
Tech State/Province:Arizona
Tech Postal Code:85260
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.4806242599
Tech Email:SWIFTVETS.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com
Name Server:WSC1.JOMAX.NET
Name Server:WSC2.JOMAX.NET
INTREP
Domains By Proxy is meant to hide the owner. It's probably Heinz or Tides Foundation.
BUMP Teeny bopper hackers needed ;)
Did you know that for each domain name you register, anyone - anywhere, anytime - can find out your name, home address, phone number and email address?From the side bar...
The law requires that the personal information you provide with every domain you register be made public in the "WHOIS" database. Your identity becomes instantly available - and vulnerable - to spammers, scammers, prying eyes and worse.
But now there's a solution: Domains By Proxy!
So, basically, it cloaks who the "owner" of the site is.
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So, who is being secretive?
this thread interest you
Those guys at SwiftVets.org are the most amateurish web creators I have ever seen. They don't even know how to correctly create a "mailto" tag. I tried to contact them to tell them what I think of their pathetic little mimicry, but it wouldn't work because they don't know squat about HTML. They should do their homework before they try to play with the big boys.
And the Kerry people call the real Swift Vets shadowy???
BUMP...
Hmmmmm....there's a phone number and address in there....couldn't we back it out of those????
here's some more...
DOH....I see....the number/address are for the DOMAIN PROXY....but may be worth a try....
AlGore is behind this. He invented the Internet you know.
But wait... there's more...
When I do a search on the IP address 64.202.167.177 it's handled by GoDaddy...
OrgName: Go Daddy Software, Inc.
OrgID: GDS-31
Address: 14455 N Hayden Road
Address: Suite 226
City: Scottsdale
StateProv: AZ
PostalCode: 85260
Country: US
domainsbyproxy.com, is that anything like that great fad circulating the past couple of years, spyware? Spyware being supposed to go around swatting and protecting your systems and PC and all from intruders, and really was instead, spying on you?
Oh, forgot, I ran into that site also. Thanks to my buddies here I didn't freak out since I'd been forewarned by you guys. Thanks!!!
Whoever it is has covered there tracks somewhat. Guess that they are not proud of what they are doing, unlike he real SwiftVets.com folks. Interesting that they have a link to the website of a a government employee's union, (AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE, COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES, AFL-CIO) isn't it? When we find out who they really are, they'd better have crossed all the T's and dotted all the eyes. Some of the Swift Vets are lawyers! You can fight just as well with a lawsuit and a legal brief as a twin .50 BMG, sometimes at least. This is one of them.
Wonder how this site is going to respond to the latest Swift Vets ad? Are they going to slime the POWs? I hope they do, and I really hope who they really are comes out then. Anybody got some torches and pitchforks?
The real swiftvets.com domain information is below:
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth P.O. Box 26184 Alexandria, Virginia 22313 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: SWIFTVETS.COM Created on: 14-Apr-04 Expires on: 14-Apr-05 Last Updated on: 22-Jul-04 Administrative Contact: Symmes, Weymouth WeySymmes@aol.com Swift Boat Veterans for Truth P.O. Box 26184 Alexandria, Virginia 22313 United States 4067210875 Technical Contact: Symmes, Weymouth WeySymmes@aol.com Swift Boat Veterans for Truth P.O. Box 26184 Alexandria, Virginia 22313 United States 4067210875 Domain servers in listed order: NS1.HE.NET NS2.HE.NET NS3.HE.NET
The fake swiftvets.org site's info is below:
Registrant: Domains by Proxy, Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160 PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: SWIFTVETS.ORG Created on: 06-May-04 Expires on: 06-May-05 Last Updated on: 06-May-04 Administrative Contact: Private, Registration SWIFTVETS.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com Domains by Proxy, Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160 PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Technical Contact: Private, Registration SWIFTVETS.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com Domains by Proxy, Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160 PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Domain servers in listed order: WSC1.JOMAX.NET WSC2.JOMAX.NET
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