FlashBack:John Hurley pressured man to lie about Kansas City incident.

Coverups.com, WSJ ^ | 29 Mar 2004 | unknown

[aft_lizard]

http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/4839.html When questions were raised last month about whether a 27-year-old John Kerry had attended a Kansas City meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War where the assassination of senators was discussed, the Kerry presidential campaign went into action. It accepted the resignation of a campaign volunteer in Florida, Scott Camil, the member of the antiwar group who raised the idea in November 1971 of killing politicians who backed the war. The campaign pressed other veterans who were in Kansas City, Mo., 33 years ago to re-examine their hazy memories while assuring them that Mr. Kerry was sure he had not been there. John Musgrave, a disabled ex-marine from Baldwin City, Kan., who told The Kansas City Star that Mr. Kerry was at the meeting, said he got a call from John Hurley, the Kerry campaign's veterans coordinator. "He said, `I'd like you to refresh your memory,' " Mr. Musgrave, 55, recounted in an interview, confirming an account he had given to The New York Sun. "He said it twice. `And call that reporter back and say you were mistaken about John Kerry being there.' "
Such little-noticed moments in Mr. Kerry's past — including his decision at age 26 to meet the Vietcong emissaries to the Paris peace talks — are coming under new scrutiny now, as Mr. Kerry finally makes the presidential run that his comrades in arms, and in the antiwar movement, half-mockingly predicted decades ago. In an interview about his antiwar activities, Mr. Kerry said that he knew nothing of attempts by his campaign to tinker with the past and that he disapproved. "People's memories are people's memories," he said, adding that he had no memory of the Kansas City meeting. Mr. Hurley says he was merely asking Mr. Musgrave to be accurate, "because his memory was contrary to everything I was hearing." Yet while Mr. Kerry is heavily accentuating his five months in combat in Vietnam, he rarely emphasizes his two years working against the war — though he first catapulted to fame 33 years ago this week when he electrified millions of viewers in asking the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, "How do you ask a man to be last man to die for a mistake?" And when Mr. Kerry appeared on "Meet the Press" last weekend, he disavowed his own remarks on the same program in April 1971, when he said he and thousands of other soldiers had committed "atrocities." From its inception, Vietnam Veterans Against the War was a curiosity and an influential force in the Vietnam protest movement because of the novelty, and political potency, of antiwar demonstrators in uniform. In the year and a half that Mr. Kerry belonged to the group, it was loosely structured and had its share of revolutionaries and provocateurs — including many secretly working for law enforcement — who pushed the writings of Chairman Mao and talked of tossing grenades, though they seldom did worse than toss bags of chicken droppings at the Pentagon....

[KS Flyover]

Here's the New York Sun article posted on FR:

Kerry's Campaign Asked A [Disabled] Veteran To Change Story - KC Meeting At Issue
New York Sun | March 22, 2004 | Thomas H. Lipscomb

[combat_boots]

They met at a Mennonite hall? Man oh man. That is rich.

[GarySpFc]

Not so fast. Mr. Kerry's campaign has done more than contradict itself. It has been in full coverup mode. John Musgrave, one of the six witnesses who placed Mr. Kerry at the Kansas City meeting, says the head of Veterans for Kerry, John Hurley, called him twice and pressured him to change the story he had already told a Kansas City Star reporter about the 1971 meeting.

I saw John Hurley on MSNBC tonight, and there was something about the man that reeked of liar. After reading this it became obvious the man shares Kerry's treason. Hurley is one sorry excuse for a human being.

[backhoe]

-Kansas City Kerry- "The Phoenix Project"--

[Deb]

Hurly seems like a thug. There's something really creepy about him. Its weird that the pro-Kerry swifties aren't out refuting the SBVT. I'll bet the Kerry campaign doesn't trust them to stand up to their buddies and lie.

[Use It Or Lose It]

Time to start a little email campaign to Fox, asking them to request a member of Kerry's Band of Brothers to come on air while discussing the Swiftees.

While the networks have time to fill, it's pointless to have political pundits talk about incidents of 35 years ago, since people like Chris Matthews was wasting away in the African jungles doing his thang in the Peace Corps. After the fiasco on "Hardball" two nights ago, it's obvious Matthews doesn't even comprehend what "self-inflicted wound" means in context. With the exception of a few, most of these talking heads today were in diapers during the Vietnam war. Pat Buchanan, then working in the Nixon White House, understands, but few others do.

[combat_boots]

paging doug

[Deb]

Hackworth will probably start showing up on cable shows to trash the Swifties. He's already condemned them in print...the rat.

There's an ex-POW, GOP, Congressman who would be great to go against McCain. I forget his name.

[Use It Or Lose It]

Johnson from TX? Duke Cunningham (CA) has spoken in favor of the Swiftees.

[Deb]

Yeah, Johnson. What a wonderful, incredibly brave man. He's more crediblity than ten McCains. The Duke has been terrific.

[cyn]

thanks for posting this.

Theft of FBI files 'has makings of Kerry Watergate' [in major UK paper] -- Gerald Nicosia

[cyn]

from that above link: "He [Gerald Nicosia] stored the 14 box files in his garage, not bothering to examine them in detail until earlier this year, when Mr Kerry's Vietnam record suddenly came under renewed scrutiny."

Huh? How did Nicosia win the grand prize of 14 boxes of raw historical material? And was so careless as to store them -- was allowed to store them, there was no oversight? -- in his stinkin' damp bug infested garage?

Check out info in #35 & #37 from that thread.

Ping to those posters; thanks for your info.

[Chieftain]

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[cyn]

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[rwfromkansas]

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[Calvin Locke]

Mr. Hurley told him that the senator "was definitely not in Kansas City."

Clintonspeak. Kerry wasn't a senator then, so "Sen. Kerry" was not at the meeting, which is true.

[Chieftain]

When they click on the link, it gives them the snail mail address at the bottom of the linked page.

[Fedora]

Ping.