Posted on 08/18/2004 2:33:14 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
Thanks...for my American Government Class.
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BTTT!
Yes, but then they went and added that pesky Bill of Rights in which the First Amendment seems to contradict the First Commandment.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof vs. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Somewhere on the internet is a putative statistical breakdown of authors cited in the works of the Framers. As I recall, St. Paul comes in fairly high in the rankings. Anybody have the link, though? I lost it, though I think I originally found it here at FR.
The First Commandment is not what the Founders considered to be an 'establishment' of religion. Only laws establishing a certain denomination, such as Anglican, as the National Church would violate this clause.
Rom 13:1-2
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Just wondering - were these scriptures in the bible in 1776 or were they added later?
If Caesar is due an ass kicking, God wants us to give it to him.
But if the Bible played such a large role, why did they create the First Amendment which allows for direct violation of the First Commandment?
"If Caesar is due an ass kicking, God wants us to give it to him."
Care to cite chapter and verse for that?
IF the men framing the constitution were in fact making a complete break from all things Europe, they would have ditched that pesky calendar which measures the passage of time from the birth of Christ.1776 or one thousand seven hundred seventy six years having past since the birth of Jesus.
All our founding Documents are dated with a system that acknowledges the birth of Jesus as a singular event.You can't register your dog without using that system.Not your car,your birth certificate,nor pay your taxes without acknowledging the birth of Jesus.
If God were not important to the Founders, what would hold them back from starting a new calendar for a new country with a new flag in a new world?
Faith Was regarded by the Founders ,religion,or "Denomination" was not.Congress was not to favor a particular denomination over others and requiring government officials to belong to particular denomination was to be forbidden.
However thanks to a newly found "Living Constitution" we are free from the thoughts of all those old dusty dead white men.
just a reminder-gird your loins- we will soon be hearing the term "Living Constitution" again as Dems try and get rid of the electoral college once more.....
Matthew 22:21 I believe.
We ought to obey God rather than men. - Acts 5:29
Not really anything "newly found" about it, just following in the footsteps of FDR.
"If Caesar is due an ass kicking, God wants us to give it to him."
Care to cite chapter and verse for that?
"Matthew 22:21 I believe."
I'd say your exegesis is a bit faulty here. :-)
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Some people find it so, others not so much.
I absolutely agree that we should obey God rather than man.
So when the scripture says "the powers that be are ordained of God" that would include the King of England wouldn't it?
And when the scripture says "Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God:" That would seem to indicate that our armed rebellion against the King was in fact a rebellion against the ordinance of God.
So are we a Christian nation or are we a nation of rebels?
Excellent post! Thanks!
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