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To: Tailgunner Joe

I absolutely agree that we should obey God rather than man.

So when the scripture says "the powers that be are ordained of God" that would include the King of England wouldn't it?

And when the scripture says "Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God:" That would seem to indicate that our armed rebellion against the King was in fact a rebellion against the ordinance of God.

So are we a Christian nation or are we a nation of rebels?


19 posted on 08/18/2004 3:49:02 PM PDT by The Lumster
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To: The Lumster

Lumster...God removed the King of Israel many long centuries ago.We wait for Jesus to return and rightfully take his throne.Until then all leaders are stewards.We just happen to elect ours....


21 posted on 08/18/2004 4:01:34 PM PDT by Grendelgrey (....nay, we are but men..........Rock!)
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To: The Lumster
The word revolution, in its old sense, was "a round of periodic or recurrent changes or events – that is, the process of coming full cycle, or the act of rolling back or moving back, a return to a point previously occupied." (2)

Jefferson suggested in 1776, "Is it not better now that we return at once unto that happy system of our ancestors, the wisest and most perfect ever yet devised by the wit of man?"

He understood what a revolution was. He was referring to returning to the government of the ancient Anglo-Saxons of the fourth century A.D. and beyond, to the ancient Israelites and their system of judges.

So who are these people kidding? What order and what law did the Americans rebel against and overthrow? Private property, equality, local self-government, limitations of powers, divisions of powers, taxation (by consent), natural rights, the pre-eminence of God's law, common law, trial by jury, and laws against theft, murder, deception, profanity and so forth, were their heritage, not their invention.

As Edmund Burke noted about this "true revolution," the Founders built a more glorious structure upon the ancient traditions of English law. - Commies, They were Not!


22 posted on 08/18/2004 4:02:43 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.)
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To: The Lumster

Calvin's Institutes, I believe in the famed Chapter XX, spoke of the need for "lesser magistrates" to resist idolatrous or tyrannical ambitions of the King. The American counter-revolution was a scrupulously law-abiding re-assertion of the traditional Christian order imperilled by insane royal ambitions. ("The Madness of King George!")


39 posted on 08/20/2004 2:16:27 PM PDT by TomSmedley ((technical writer looking for work!))
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