Posted on 08/17/2004 10:26:07 AM PDT by white trash redneck
A new poll commissioned by the National Jewish Democratic Council says American Jews will still vote overwhelmingly for the Democratic presidential candidate, John Kerry, despite US President George W. Bush's policies toward Israel, which have been widely praised by the Jewish community.
The poll, released on Monday, said American Jews preferred Kerry to Bush by a 75 to 22 percent margin. The survey of 817 likely Jewish voters was conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research between July 26 and 28, and has a margin of error of +/- 3.5 percent.
Respondents said in 2000 they had voted for Vice President Al Gore over Bush by a similar margin of 76 to 21 percent.
Exit polls in 2000 showed Gore won 79 percent of the Jewish vote, and Bush 19 percent.
"The White House and (President Bush's political adviser) Karl Rove in particular have expended a lot of resources on this Jewish vote. Just like with Hispanics, they've come up with zero," said Ira Forman, executive director of NJDC.
Matthew Brooks, executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, a rival group, discounted the survey's results since the poll was taken during the Democratic Convention in Boston.
"I discount these findings because this poll was taken right in the middle of the Democratic Convention, right in the middle of a massive deluge of Kerry press coverage," Brooks said.
"We stand firmly committed to the notion that President Bush will do substantially better among Jewish voters than he did in 2000," Brooks added.
Another survey of American Jewish opinion in January found that 31 percent of Jews would support Bush when matched with Kerry, who was not yet the nominee at the time.
The new NJDC survey said 66 percent found Kerry to be better on the issue of Israel, while 34 percent found Bush to be. Only 23 percent of respondents felt the country was moving in the right direction, while 77 percent said it was on the wrong track. Twenty-five percent approved strongly or somewhat of the way Bush is handling his job as president, while 75 percent disapproved strongly or somewhat.
A new national Zogby survey released Monday showed Kerry ahead of Bush 47 to 43 percent. Without Independent Ralph Nader and other candidates the lead stretched to 50 to 43 percent.
How many dead Jews from the ravages of Socialism, Communism, Nazism, Collectivism, and all of the other socially leftist "isms" that have afflicted the World in the 19th and 20th Centuries?
Time for a reappraisal it seems to me.
Regards,
You want to SPELL OUT what you mean by that?
You want to SPELL OUT what you mean by that?
You want to SPELL OUT what you mean by that?
Prager addressed this one day on his show. It's more of a traditional thing. He says that as you grow up Jewish, there are 2 "rules". Don't eat pork and vote Democrat.
Yet he talks about the very conservative views of Jews.
Fools.
Liberal democracy is the closest thing to religion that the majority of American Jews have.
You avoid my questions and choose to hurl accusations.
It is possible that you have redefined "majority" to mean "totality".
For example: If I was a Jew who wasn't hostile to Christianity and I saw the words "most Jews are hostile to Christianity" I might feel that that particular truth threatens me. That I might be assumed something by belonging to a group for which the statement holds true for the majority.
The "nice" thing would then be to avoid stating the truth or perhaps make up a lie so the minority need not feel that it is unjustly being included with the majority. In the long run, avoiding the truth isn't at all "nice" though, it is very destructive.
Well, since I'm 25 years old, I guess I'll be voting for Bush.
Yes because we rule Hollywood! Muahahahahahahaha!
Take your meds.
I assumed the questions in your last post were rhetorical. I'll look at them again.
and choose to hurl accusations.
The accusation that began this was YOURS: that "most Jews wish doom upon Christianity". Bluntly speaking, that is a load of crap.
It is possible that you have redefined "majority" to mean "totality".
"Most" typically means "over half". I asked you what evidence you had that the "most" Jews wished doom upon Christianity. You had none to offer, other than your own "observations".
It is possible that you have redefined "opinion" to mean "empirically provable statement".
If I was a Jew who wasn't hostile to Christianity and I saw the words "most Jews are hostile to Christianity" I might feel that that particular truth threatens me.
As a Jew who isn't hostile to Christianity, I read such a statement as a falsehood and a lie. Certainly not as a "truth" that "threatens me".
That I might be assumed something by belonging to a group for which the statement holds true for the majority.
Sorry, JC, you have yet to establish your premise. Provide your evidence that "most Jews wish doom upon Christianity". I'm not going to debate from the standpoint of false premises.
The "nice" thing would then be to avoid stating the truth
The LIE is that "most Jews wish doom upon Christianity". The nice thing would be to avoid lying.
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Liberal democracy is the closest thing to religion that the majority of American Christians have.
They polled their own members. Duh. And even 25% of those are going over to the Bush side.
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There is nothing wrong with speculation. But a distinction should be made between "demonstrable fact" and "opinion" or "guesses".
In any case, you missed my point, which was that, numerically, Jews form a very small part of the electorate. Far more non-Jews vote for Democrats than do Jews. The 50% of Catholics who vote Democrat provide enormously more votes than the 70-80% of Jews who do.
I do not hate Christians or wish for their doom. Unless they come bugging me at 7am though wanting to share their 'good news' with me.
Ask any Jewish FReeper. They wish no malice upon any Christian.
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