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Tropical Storm Earl Forms Near the Lesser Antilles Hurricane Danielle Over the Far Eastern Atlantic
WECT TV Wilmington NC ^ | Aug. 14, 2004 | WECT TV Wilmington NC

Posted on 08/14/2004 8:05:55 PM PDT by walford

Tropical Storm Earl Forms Near the Lesser Antilles

TROPICAL STORM EARL INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER   5A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
8 PM AST SAT AUG 14 2004

...EARL CONTINUING QUICKLY TOWARD THE WINDWARD ISLANDS...

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR BARBADOS...ST. VINCENT...THE GRENADINES...TRINIDAD...TOBAGO...GRENADA AND ITS DEPENDENCIES...AND ST. LUCIA.  INTERESTS AROUND THE EASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA SHOULD CLOSELY MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS SYSTEM.

AT 8 PM AST...0000Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM EARL WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 11.1 NORTH...LONGITUDE  55.8 WEST OR ABOUT  300 MILES... 480 KM...EAST-SOUTHEAST OF BARBADOS.

EARL IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 24 MPH ...39 KM/HR...AND THIS GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS.  ON THIS TRACK THE STORM WILL MOVE OVER PORTIONS OF THE WINDWARD ISLANDS ON SUNDAY.  WEATHER CONDITIONS OVER THE WINDWARD ISLANDS WILL BE DETERIORATING TONIGHT.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR  40 MPH... 65 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.  FURTHER STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO  85 MILES ...140 KM FROM THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1006 MB...29.71 INCHES.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 3 TO 5 INCHES ARE LIKELY IN ASSOCIATION WITH EARL.


Hurricane Danielle Over the Far Eastern Atlantic

HURRICANE DANIELLE ADVISORY NUMBER 7
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 PM AST SAT AUG 14 2004

...DANIELLE BECOMES THE THIRD HURRICANE OF THE SEASON OVER THE FAR EASTERN ATLANTIC...

AT 11 PM AST...0300Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE DANIELLE WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 14.2 NORTH... LONGITUDE 30.0 WEST OR ABOUT 375 MILES... 605 KM... WEST OF THE SOUTHERNMOST CAPE VERDE ISLANDS.

DANIELLE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 15 MPH ...24 KM/HR...AND THIS MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS...FOLLOWED BY A TURN TO THE NORTHWEST.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 75 MPH...120 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 25 MILES... 35 KM... FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES...165 KM.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 987 MB...29.15 INCHES


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KEYWORDS: hurricane; storm; tropicalstormearl
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OK. We've seen the mistakes that people have made with Bonnie and Charley. There are 2 more storms coming, maybe we can be a bit more vigilant about these. Earl is taking a very similar path that Charley did. We're not out of danger yet.
1 posted on 08/14/2004 8:05:57 PM PDT by walford
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To: walford
...and this time, pray that NOAA and the NHC Don't try for such ridiculous accuracy in their forecasts.
2 posted on 08/14/2004 8:29:06 PM PDT by snapperjk (If you are a terror to many, then beware of many.)
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Earl


Danielle

3 posted on 08/14/2004 8:31:55 PM PDT by walford (http://utopia-unmasked.us)
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To: snapperjk
...and this time, pray that NOAA and the NHC Don't try for such ridiculous accuracy in their forecasts.

Huh? Trying for accuracy is bad?

The problem is media portrayal of forecasts. I suspect you don't actually read any original NHC products at all.

4 posted on 08/14/2004 8:33:36 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: walford
Rumor has it, this one is Cheney's fault.

Halliburton supplied Earl with hot water.

5 posted on 08/14/2004 8:36:27 PM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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To: walford

Earl looks like it has serious hurricane potential. Water surface temperatures increased slightly after Charley's visit and 4 days does not look like enough time for them to cool.


6 posted on 08/14/2004 8:41:39 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Keep your kids safe; keep W in the White House.)
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To: Strategerist
Far from the truth. I am retired from Bell Atlantic/Verizon and was looked upon to keep the company updated on weather conditions. I am well versed in Meteorology, but not a meteorologist.
Sorry to bust your bubble.
7 posted on 08/14/2004 8:43:04 PM PDT by snapperjk (If you are a terror to many, then beware of many.)
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To: walford

Every time I see these storm tracks, I feel, I know what it's like to be a bowling pin. ;-)


8 posted on 08/14/2004 8:48:45 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: snapperjk

NOAA issues probabilities and warnings. The hurricane was well within the warning area AT ALL TIMES. The probabilities are simply probabilities. They were not misleading. Did you actually read a NOAA report?

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2004/prb/al032004.prblty.016.shtml?


9 posted on 08/14/2004 9:00:50 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Keep your kids safe; keep W in the White House.)
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To: snapperjk

The graphics you see above are the same used for EVERY NHC advisory...showing the error range in forecasting. Hurricane Charley made landfall about sixty miles south of Tampa..which fits well into the known error margin of forecasts. That is why Hurricane Warnings were posted on Thurday morning for the entire SW coast of FL..and why mandatory evac orders were given (for barrier islands and mobile homes, especially).

Unfortunately, the media tends to concentrate on the exact forecast track...and so they emphasized Tampa over everything else (due to it being the major metro area). The NHC specifically said in their advisories that small changes in direction could lead to an earlier or later landfall (either north or south of Tampa) due to the position of the storm and the topography of the FL west coast. This information is often glossed over by TV stations as they strive to prove that they are the most "accurate" weather authority in the market.


10 posted on 08/14/2004 9:10:25 PM PDT by wxdawg
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To: snapperjk

I can't help feeling that the media concentrated on the Tampa Bay area because it is a major metropolitan center and a direct strike by a hurricane in such a place would create for them a gold mine of disaster stories, bad news and high ratings.


11 posted on 08/14/2004 9:16:55 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree
So true. Interesting about Charley approaching the coast on Friday was that 1 of the 3 major TV stations in the Tampa Bay area, Channel 10 (CBS), was forced to evacuate their entire complex at 11:00 AM. Dick Fletcher, the chief meteorologist tried to stay back but was forced out also. They had to go off the air for short time and had set up a makeshift studio across from the county crisis center. On the other hand, no commercials aired for many, many hours and the dollar cost to call up every employed and freelance reporter to get a story is pure expense.
12 posted on 08/14/2004 9:25:10 PM PDT by snapperjk (If you are a terror to many, then beware of many.)
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To: walford

Uh oh, I have a trip to Texas in the near future, and it looks like Earl does too.


13 posted on 08/14/2004 9:42:51 PM PDT by Moonmad27 (Vote for GWB in November - we MUST win.)
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To: TaxRelief

Thank you for pointing that out. Some forget.


14 posted on 08/14/2004 9:43:26 PM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: Sam Cree

I'm not convinced the LEO came through neighborhoods in St. Pete at 3:00am Friday morning with bullhorns calling for evacuation based on television ratings.


15 posted on 08/14/2004 10:23:56 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I served in Viet Nam, and we have better hair"----John F'n Kerry campaign platform)
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To: NautiNurse

I've always seen the LEO's canvasing neighborhoods before storms on TV.

But they didn't come to my neighborhood at any time right before Andrew, even though we were in an evacuation zone.
None of us left, since we all knew that we were on high enough ground, in spite of what the county evacuation maps showed. Maybe the LEO's figured the same, who knows.


16 posted on 08/15/2004 8:37:33 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: wxdawg

If anyone is to blame it is the TV weather bureaus not the NOAA or the NHC.


17 posted on 08/15/2004 8:39:55 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: NautiNurse; Howlin; TaxRelief

Here we go again.

Meteorology is not an exact science....at best it is guesstimates.

I'm so sick an tired of these blame games that are played out after every single weather "problem"


18 posted on 08/15/2004 8:47:11 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's driving has killed more people than second hand smoke)
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To: Sam Cree

A lot of hard lessons, from preparation to recovery, were learned as a result of Andrew.


19 posted on 08/15/2004 8:54:13 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I served in Viet Nam, and we have better hair"----John F'n Kerry campaign platform)
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To: snapperjk

Like yourself, I am not a meteorologist, but would you perhaps agree that this storm made the hard right turn, due to influence from the prevailing jet stream?

Once caught by the jet stream, Charley followed the exact path of the stream, all the way up the coast.


20 posted on 08/15/2004 9:03:48 AM PDT by spoiler2
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