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Will Hurricane Charley Cost Bush The Election?
8/14/04
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Posted on 08/14/2004 9:35:01 AM PDT by technomage
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To: technomage
Why not?
After all, it was Bush's fault!!
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posted on
08/14/2004 9:59:05 AM PDT
by
freedumb2003
(I want to die in my sleep like Gramps -- not yelling and screaming like those in his car)
To: snooker
The 1992 Hurricane and its aftermath are perhaps the greatest proof of the fact that perception is reality - and that politicians need to manage perceptions carefully. What I recall in the media, several days after the Hurricane was a woman who was in charge of Emergency Government in Miami-Dade having a virtual breakdown on camera and complaining about the lack of response. In a normal world - you might think, gee, this is not the right person to have running emergency government, she obviously couldn't handle the stress. But the way it came across in the media was that Evil, Incompetent GHWB was neglecting the Miami area and her frustration and emotional breakdown must have been warranted. I'll never forget that video - maybe some Freepers out there can identify the woman I'm thinking of.
To: technomage
Quite the opposite. W. and Jeb will ride to the rescue. Kerry can't go there, he'll look like he's pandering.
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posted on
08/14/2004 9:59:48 AM PDT
by
veronica
(http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com/ - read the truth about John Kerry!)
To: Non-Sequitur
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posted on
08/14/2004 9:59:52 AM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(Commander McBrag and the Cambodian Caper)
To: technomage
I sure hope not, but it seems that Pres. Bush can't catch a real break.
One thing is the shortage of building supplies in the US right now. Concrete prices are way up, rebar, lumber, everything. Lots of these supplies are being diverted to China and Iraq.
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posted on
08/14/2004 10:01:02 AM PDT
by
tinamina
To: technomage
Silly question! National disasters helped re-elect Bill Clinton.
Clinton wasn't impeached for "feeling up" Monica, because he had done such a fantastic job of feeling our pain.
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posted on
08/14/2004 10:01:10 AM PDT
by
YaYa123
(@"Help Is On The Way", chortle, chortle.com)
To: kingattax
47
posted on
08/14/2004 10:02:48 AM PDT
by
deport
(Please Flush the Johns...... Take their BEEBERS and don't let them STUNED anyone)
To: Wally_Kalbacken
GHW Bush won Florida in 1992!!!!!!!!!!!!
What the heck are you people talking about!!!!!!
48
posted on
08/14/2004 10:04:01 AM PDT
by
jveritas
To: Jeff Chandler
But back to the important stuff. Beach volleyball just started on NBC Olympics coverage.
Norway babes v USA babes.
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posted on
08/14/2004 10:04:32 AM PDT
by
YaYa123
(@"Help Is On The Way", chortle, chortle.com)
To: Pharlap
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posted on
08/14/2004 10:04:56 AM PDT
by
G.Mason
(A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
To: The Wizard
Americans will not blame the weather on GWB, only the demonrats will
I can't wait to hear them blame it on Bush.
What is weird is how people will believe it?
To: technomage
The notion that a hurricane helps the economy is a variation of the classic "broken window fallacy": A broken window increases the wealth of the whole community because it provides employment for the police, the social worker, the glazier, and the insurance agent.
Natural disasters make the population as a whole poorer, and they make every individual poorer except the people who benefit directly from the funding of the recovery.
To: smonk
From what I'm seeing on local and national news, it looks like Charley will do more damage than Andrew simply because of the scope of the storm. Andrew was small compared to Charley and while it did incredible damage to the Homestead/Florida City/Naranja area, the vast destruction was pretty much kept to those areas.
Charley was larger, went through the state across heavily populated areas. So far the confirmed death toll is the same as the "official" Andrew toll from the actual storm.
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posted on
08/14/2004 10:05:19 AM PDT
by
Brytani
(A changing mind is a terrible thing to waste - Vote John Kerry)
To: dawn53
I'll tell you one thing...hurricanes boost certain retail industries. That is true. But that is the broken window fallacy. Let's say you have a window and S100 that you were planning to spend on a CD player.
The hurricane comes along and smashes your window, which will cost $100 to replace. True, the window guy makes $100, so it appears to be an economic benefit. But the audio equipment retailer is out the $100, although he may not know it because he didn't know you were planning to by the CD player. But his loss is real nonetheless.
Meanwhile, you are poorer because before the hurricane you would have had a window and a CD player. But now you only have a window.
If the window guy's gain were really a net advantage to the economy, then it would be a viable economic program for the US president to evacuate an American city and nuke it every few years in order to boost the economy.
But of course, in addition to being morally wrong, obviously such a policy would make the nation poorer. One cannot destroy a nation into prosperity.
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posted on
08/14/2004 10:05:44 AM PDT
by
Maceman
(Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
To: technomage
Will Hurricane Charley Cost Bush The Election? No Bush will cause it.
As with the destruction of the twin towers and the damaged Pentagon, with a large amount of lives lost, well, who else can be blamed? /s
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posted on
08/14/2004 10:07:20 AM PDT
by
EGPWS
To: technomage
From other talking head shows, though, people vote what the economy was 6 months before the election. They won't actually feel that much difference this close to an election.
Also, Bush comes across as genuinely concerned. If Kerry shows up in FL, though, he'll just come across as another politician. He doesn't do the "I feel your pain" with any sort of sincerity (unlike Clinton who was especially good at faking it).
I don't think it will hurt Bush at all.
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posted on
08/14/2004 10:08:00 AM PDT
by
Spyder
To: technomage
President Bush is not stupid. I'm sure he will be right on top of the situation in his brother's state with money and supplies etc. I feel this will help him not hinder him. IMHO
To: technomage
My thoughts were that if Jeb stays there in the media looking like the sincere guy that he is., and
W comes down there and offers lots of support and help.(People love promices of $$$, and stuff)
Hopefully FLoridians will see how they benefit from these two great guys.
To: Wally_Kalbacken
You are absolutely right. Bush needs to tour the area by air, take a news camera guy with him, have a knowledgeable type explain what's needed.
Hold a town hall style meeting after his tour. Get input from local emergency heads. Give a few short speeches. And then make damn sure that action is taken.
All W needs to do is be seen in a Kerry TV ad juxtaposed with a person like you describe with voice over statements of no action and W is toast. I remember the scene you describe. If something like this happens, W needs to seek out the person and have a private and then public meeting with them. Else perception will become reality.
To the the media, perception is reality. The media hate Bush enough to do damn near anything to defeat him.
I just hope Bush doesn't blow it. There is upside for W if he moves NOW.
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posted on
08/14/2004 10:09:54 AM PDT
by
snooker
To: technomage
Who knows if Hurricane Charlie will cost him the election. It is anyone's guess. However we DO KNOW FOR A FACT that Hurricane Charlie is George Bush's FAULT!!
< /anger >< /sarcasm >
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posted on
08/14/2004 10:10:16 AM PDT
by
PISANO
(NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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