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McGreevey, Kerry and the Church
Townhall.com ^ | 8/13/2004 | Dr. Paul Kengor

Posted on 08/14/2004 6:23:17 AM PDT by Horatio Gates

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Could just one person in the national media ask John F. Kerry if he will follow McGreevey’s example?
If worded properly it would make for an interesting inquiry of Kerry when the deabates get underway.
1 posted on 08/14/2004 6:23:17 AM PDT by Horatio Gates
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To: shotokan

neither man should go near communion.......


2 posted on 08/14/2004 6:26:37 AM PDT by tioga (Flush the johns in '04!)
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To: shotokan
Kerry already has a workaround for his Eucharist "problem."

O'Malley won't offer blessing; Paulist priest to deliver invocation , July 26, 2004

The Kerry campaign said last night it is seeking to have the Rev. John B. Ardis, director of the Paulist Center, deliver an invocation at the convention. The Paulist Center is on Beacon Hill, where Kerry lives, and the senator and his wife have often worshiped at the chapel there[snip]

Ardis is a member of the Paulist Fathers, an order of Catholic priests dedicated to the evangelization of America. The Paulist Center, which he heads, is particularly popular among liberal Catholics, many of them disaffected from neighborhood parishes.


3 posted on 08/14/2004 6:32:44 AM PDT by syriacus (Benedict Arnold REALLY was a hero ----- before he was a traitor.)
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To: tioga
neither man should go near communion....

Bingo. In McGreevey's case, his abortion stance, and his adulterous affair which apparently went on for years should have made reception of the Eucharist a no-no.

To the author, Dr. Kengor, I would say,I'm not impressed by this man's behavior, public or private.

4 posted on 08/14/2004 6:37:33 AM PDT by sockmonkey
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Kerry's Beacon Hill Paulist Center has it's finger on the pulse of the community it serves

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2003/7/prweb73570.htm

Boston yoga teacher, Carmela Cattuti, will be teaching threee [sic] 45 minute lunch time yoga classes at the Paulist Center in downtown Boston

5 posted on 08/14/2004 6:37:48 AM PDT by syriacus (Benedict Arnold REALLY was a hero ----- before he was a traitor.)
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Kerry's Church Known For Liberalism, Apr 25, 2004,
The sanctuary where Sen. John Kerry regularly receives Communion attracts Catholics uncomfortable with some of the Vatican's orthodox teachings or who otherwise feel alienated from the Roman Catholic Church.

The Paulist Center's congregation includes gay couples, whose adopted children are baptized there, unlike in some other Boston parishes. In November, its leaders refused to read aloud during Mass from a letter opposing gay marriage, as requested by the Massachusetts bishops.


6 posted on 08/14/2004 6:42:00 AM PDT by syriacus (Benedict Arnold REALLY was a hero ----- before he was a traitor.)
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To: tioga

They should be excommunicated. This debate is getting much mileage at my parish.


7 posted on 08/14/2004 6:45:30 AM PDT by Horatio Gates
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From the current bulletin of Kerry's church of choice, the Paulist Center:

Book Discussion Groups Meets Monday, August 23

to discuss Michael Moore’s best seller, Stupid White Men.

8 posted on 08/14/2004 6:56:44 AM PDT by syriacus (Benedict Arnold REALLY was a hero ----- before he was a traitor.)
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A reading from a letter of St. Michael Moore to the ignorant...and I thought things were bad here in the Seattle area! I saw something called FREP on the newsletter. Caught my attention real quick, thought it said FREEP


9 posted on 08/14/2004 7:19:43 AM PDT by Horatio Gates
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To: shotokan

He has the integrity to discipline himself for moral misconduct ???

Hardly, the homosexual perversions would have elevated him to greater heights in the eyes of the dnc.

He is resigning before all the charges of corruption, theft, and other illegal activities catch up to him.


10 posted on 08/14/2004 7:21:17 AM PDT by steplock
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To: syriacus

Also from the bulletin is this item (given what we know about this place, I sort of wonder if it is really the "Heller Award", but they use the term "Hecker" in a veiled attempt not to offend - I am sure it is only given to those who actively undermine Church dogma):

2005 Hecker Award Nominations

Just two months left. Beat the rush! Submit your entry now! Flyers with guidelines are available in the racks.


12 posted on 08/14/2004 7:27:25 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Fides et Ratio)
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For a list of past Hecker award winners (many on the list are heretics):

http://www.paulist.org/boston/information/hecker/awards.htm


13 posted on 08/14/2004 7:29:35 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Fides et Ratio)
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FYI... Kerry's first address to the Senate was about the women's right to abortion.

First one... numero uno... the 'crux-of-the-biscuit', the one you wanna state something in that distinguishes you from the rest of the fat, pompous solons.

14 posted on 08/14/2004 7:39:49 AM PDT by johnny7 (“You know... my 40 ft. Hinckley is named ''The Scaramouch'!” -Jawn Fawbs Karrie)
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To: shotokan
McGreevey hasn't "resigned" until he is actually gone. All he has done so far is "said" that he will leave at some time in the distant future, 11/15/04.

He is a lying corrupt dem crapweasels and they do not leave a power base when there is more to be stolen no matter how much shame and scandal they bring on themselves. Willie stayed. Every other dem criminal has stayed in office seeking to "put this behind us and move on." The only one to resign was Torricelli but that was simply a tactical move because he knew he couldn't win in the election.

And, NO, no one in the ultra-left wing media would dare ask Kerry to resign because it would be too painful for all of them if he said "yes." They have a lot invested in Kerry.

KERRY: RESIGN AND APOLOGIZE!!!

15 posted on 08/14/2004 7:45:09 AM PDT by Tacis
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To: shotokan
Oddly, McGreevey said he would accept communion in private (whatever that means) but not in public, even though Myers made no distinction.

For what its worth...

What this means is that he would continue to receive communion in instances where he was not causing public scandal. That's as acceptable for him as it would be for any other anonymous pro-choice Catholic (which is to say it's a sin, but most priests won't stop you).

18 posted on 08/14/2004 8:03:17 AM PDT by Snuffington
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list of past Hecker award winners

Thanks for the link.

19 posted on 08/14/2004 8:16:45 AM PDT by syriacus (Benedict Arnold REALLY was a hero ----- before he was a traitor.)
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I admit - only half of the time does the award go to those who actively undermine Church dogma.

I guess these "progressive Catholics" (puke) try to be fair and balanced when it comes to discussion of dogma - I mean, why would Catholics be biased toward their own dogma?


20 posted on 08/14/2004 8:34:11 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Fides et Ratio)
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