After Crossfire and Hardball Tonight, is There Any Question Remaining? The Media is the Real Enemy.

The Media is the Real Enemy ^ | 8-12-04 | Bob J

[Bob J]

On the 5th I posted an article title The Media is the Real Enemy - Watch Media Reaction to the Swift Boat Vets Story and be Convinced!. After observing what has happened since and in particular the performance typified by Crossfire and Hardball tonight, is there any question remaining that our primary activism objective needs to be defeating the media hegemony that nourishes the beast?

I've been involved in FReeper activism beginning way back with the March for Justice in '98. I now believe my energies have been nothing but shadow boxing. Every single action that we have undertaken against groups or individuals can trace their existence to an adoring dim media that creates them, props them up and then protects them from damage through propaganda, misdirection and lies.

I think it's time we redirect our efforts to the source that creates, sustains and drives liberalism.

Comments and suggestions?

[Texasforever]

It was disgraceful

[wattsup]

We cannot let the left leaning media elect the next president.

[Bob J]

Yes, but what shall we do, lean back and say "Thank you sir, may I have another?"

[Bob J]

They might. And the next...

[GeronL]

The media has more or less admitted it is liberal and want Kerry elected. Those statements by Kerry-Edwards advisors show that they know this too.

[Howlin]

I just this minute posted this:

To: Dolphy

Sometimes when I watch stuff like that, I just feel so sad for our country. If anybody every doubted that these people will do anything to regain power, they need look no further than this past week.

I can't remember anything that has gotten them this upset.

116 posted on 08/13/2004 12:42:34 AM EDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")

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[Bob J]

ping

[StAnDeliver]

Bob, you must have missed O'Neill's excellent H&C appearance, and Hannity's dismantling of Jeh Johnson -- who then repeated his boob-like performance on Fox & Friends the next morning. Just a total washout for Kerry.

Just limit your non-FNC viewing and you'll feel better.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

ABC CBS CNN FOX NBC



Why do the TV and Cable Newsrooms
hide Hanoi Kerry's past?

[fooman]

Yes Bob, I Chrissy. And remember kids,

NAVIES DONT GIVE MEDALS, PEOPLE GIVE MEDALS!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

If you recall the media tried to give FL to Gore in 2000
VNS was a private consortium owned by
ABC News, The Associated Press, CBS News, CNN, Fox News, and NBC.
4 of the 5 of the networks and cable newsrooms
(only ABC waited till both time zones closed)
"announced" Gore had won
BEFORE the 2nd time zone in FL had closed.
This cost President Bush votes in the FL panhandle.

I was at a friends house and the State of FL election website results showed President Bush was winning

In fact, the networks which called Florida for Gore did so early in the evening—before polls had even closed in the Florida panhandle, which is part of the Central Time Zone. NBC called Florida for Gore at 7:49:40 p.m., Eastern Time. This was 10 minutes before polls closed in the Florida panhandle. Thirty seconds later, CBS called Florida for Gore. And at 7:52 p.m., Fox called Florida for Gore. Moore never lets the audience know that Fox was among the networks which made the error of calling Florida for Gore prematurely. Then at 8:02 p.m., ABC called Florida for Gore. Only ABC had waited until the Florida polls were closed.

About an hour before the polls closed in panhandle Florida,
the networks called the U.S. Senate race in favor of the Democratic candidate.

The premature calls may have cost Bush thousands of votes from the conservative panhandle, as discouraged last-minute voters heard that their state had already been decided;
some last-minute voters on their way to the polling place turned around and went home. Other voters who were waiting in line left the polling place. In Florida, as elsewhere, voters who have arrived at the polling place before closing time often end up voting after closing time, because of long lines. The conventional wisdom of politics is that supporters of the losing candidate are most likely to give up on voting when they hear that their side has already lost. Thus, on election night 1980, when incumbent President Jimmy Carter gave a concession speech while polls were still open on the west coast, the early concession was blamed for costing the Democrats several Congressional seats in the West, such as that of 20-year incumbent James Corman. The fact that all the networks had declared Reagan a landslide winner while west coast voting was still in progress was also blamed for Democratic losses in the West; Congress even held hearings about prohibiting the disclosure of exit polls before voting had ended in the any of the 48 contiguous states.

Even if the premature television calls affected all potential voters equally, the effect was to reduce Republican votes significantly, because the Florida panhandle is a Republican stronghold. Most of Central Time Zone Florida is in the 1st Congressional District, which is known as the "Redneck Riviera." In that district, Bob Dole beat Bill Clinton by 69,000 votes in 1996, even though Clinton won the state by 300,000 votes.

So depress overall turnout in the panhandle,
and you will necessarily depress more Republican than Democratic votes.

A 2001 study by John Lott suggested that the early calls cost Bush at least 7,500 votes,
and perhaps many more.

At 10:00 p.m., which network took the lead in retracting the premature Florida win for Gore?
The first retracting network was CBS, not Fox.

Over four hours later, at 2:16 a.m., Fox projected Bush as the Florida winner,
as did all the other networks by 2:20 a.m.

At 3:59 a.m., CBS took the lead in retracting the Florida call for Bush. All the other networks, including Fox, followed the CBS lead within eight minutes. That the networks arrived at similar conclusions within a short period of time is not surprising, since they were all using the same data from the Voter News Service. (Linda Mason, Kathleen Francovic & Kathleen Hall Jamieson, “CBS News Coverage of Election Night 2000: Investigation, Analysis, Recommendations” (CBS News, Jan. 2001), pp. 12-25.)

The big 5 media TV and Cable newsrooms are the real threat to the 2004 election.

..."Early on Tuesday, November 7th 2000, TV stations and various media based in Florida reported that Gore has won Florida which was a big surprise for everyone because of strong republican support. Bush's brother Jeb is governor there and Florida usually gives support to the Republicans. Some of them questioned that and during the night CNN showed 52% Bush's lead over 46% for Gore. It is almost impossible to believe that media could have been that blind and biased to report Gore's victory."...

[Travis McGee]

We're chipping away, just keep up the pressure! With the internet, talk radio and FOX, the MSM just makes themselves foolish by ignoring the biggest stories.

[mlstier]

Yeah,

I watched Hardboiled for a few moments, but when Arianna came on to cover McGreedy, I had to run for the bathroom.

[Texasforever]

I have been sending emails asking for media research on how many other Vietnam vets could claim that many medals in 4 months of combat or how many other vets have received 3 Purple Hearts with no lost time from service. That should be a fairly simple search to do but so far none of them have responded.

[Bob J]

Do we go continue going up to the plate with 2 strikes against us?

[Howlin]

Bob, you must have missed O'Neill's excellent H&C appearance, and Hannity's dismantling of Jeh Johnson --

We all saw it; and because O'Neill did such a great job, they now have brought out "bigger" guns.

[fooman]

NO Mr Rightalk man!

[LifeTrek]

I think your right - see this from yesterday: The Politics of Treason - Or Win at all Cost! DKK

[NormsRevenge]

We battle principalities and powers of the air, imo. Demonically inspired and driven to create chaos.