Another Passenger from Flight 327 Steps Forward With Disturbing New Details(Part V)

Womens Wall Street ^ | 8/12/04 | Annie Jacobsen

[sockmonkey]

This is Part V of the ongoing series entitled “Terror in the Skies, Again?”

A few days ago, WomensWallStreet.com received an important email. It was from Billie Jo Rodriguez, another passenger who was on Northwest Airlines flight 327 from Detroit to Los Angeles on June 29. Billie Jo is a Certified Public Accountant living in Oxnard, California. She had some additional, disturbing information about flight 327 that she felt someone needed to know. She had been so terrified by what happened on the flight that she sent two emails to the Department of Homeland Security telling them about the experience, but she hadn't heard back from them. Then, through a series of events, she heard about my article, "Terror in the Skies, Again?" She and I have had numerous conversations and she is willing to share her story on the record. The following interview is based on conversations Billie Jo and I have had, as well as a discussion she had with my editor.

ANNIE: Where were you sitting on flight 327?
BILLIE JO: I was in seat 21-C. Three of the Middle Eastern men were sitting right near me --- the man in the jogging suit [with Arabic writing] was in the aisle seat right behind me (22C), another man from the group sat right next to me (21-B) and another man from the group sat one row in front of me (20-E).

ANNIE: Tell me what the men were doing that was out of the ordinary?
BILLIE JO: It was when we were up in the air and they started walking up and down the aisles. And the eye contact. The thing that really got me was the eye contact. It was so subtle. If you know somebody, you look at them. You nod your head.

[risk]

...[the article indicate that were] more than one air marshals on board the flight.

Good point.

[Travis McGee]

More than one AM on a flight not to DC tells me they were putting on special precautions for the Syrian band, in advance. There is a lot they're not telling us. As far as I'm concerned, this was a probe, a recon, a dress rehearsal.

[supercat]

More than one AM on a flight not to DC tells me they were putting on special precautions for the Syrian band, in advance. There is a lot they're not telling us. As far as I'm concerned, this was a probe, a recon, a dress rehearsal.

Or that flight crews are instructed to always tell nervous passengers that there are two air marshalls on board, whether there are or not.

[Walkingfeather]

I dont know if a bomb could be placed but here is my theory you tell me what you think....

1.Each guy goes to the toilet and unscrews One bolt around toilet

2. Then Guy with Mcdonalds bag goes to bathroom. Gets contents of Mcdonalds bag from stash point from catering company that is past security.... like a garbage bag in a bathroom placed by an insider custodian. Takes it right only plane.

3. Since the previous 14 guys basically unscrewed the toilet he removes the toilet, sets the bomb and spends the rest of the time rescrewing the toilet down.

4. Air marshalls search toilet can not find contents of mcdonalds bag..... because it was put directly into sewage tank

5 It is atatched to the tank somehow and does not block the drain to the outside.

6. Bomb goes Boom months ahead of time.

That is the only way to explain the fact that the air marshalls could not find anything extra in the bathroom and the guy smelled like toilet chemicals when he returned to the seat. Bet the bomb or package is still in the sewage tank of the plane.

The above is my theory nothing more.

[Melas]

And I would not have returned to my seat. I think it would be time to gather up a few big boys on the plane and confront those guys telling them to sit down and not get out of their seats again until it's time to exit the plane.

Pity the ignorant passenger that trys to tell me to not use the toilet on an airplane. If you ever do get a chance to try a stunt like this, and get your ass kicked, or worse, don't expect much sympathy.

[TheLion]

"Regardless of how anyone wants to spin this particular story, the fact that these men can get on a plane anywhere in America without exensive security checks is just plain stupid. The Israelis are the only ones who get it."

We sure don't get it. These people shouldn't be in the country at all. Certainly shouldn't be on our planes after 911. Hotels can get their musicians from American Citizens.

[Tactical]

Pity the ignorant passenger that trys to tell me to not use the toilet on an airplane. If you ever do get a chance to try a stunt like this, and get your ass kicked, or worse, don't expect much sympathy.

You don't get it do you? What they're talking about is highly suspicious activity. When you're flying you have little control over your life, but if someone acts out or has everyone on board a plane spooked, you can and should think about protecting your life.

Missing taking a leak or getting my ass kicked beats the heck out of flying a jetliner into a skyscraper. I'm not afraid of some violent physical contact. Especially when it comes to protecting someone I care about, me included.

That my friend is the cowboy spirit. We don't go around starting trouble, but when it comes your way, you don't close your eyes to it.

[Melas]

That my friend is the cowboy spirit. We don't go around starting trouble, but when it comes your way, you don't close your eyes to it.

No my friend, cowboy spirit is kicking the ass out of the first overgrown monkey that decides he's going to prevent me from going to the restroom.

[Kackikat]

You could be right, and I wonder if Airlines has sense enough to remove the toilet and check....surely they have heard how he smelled like toilet chemicals.

I wonder if it was a bomb, maybe it was biological stuff that could be inhaled in bathroom or get into earth when sewage is dumped???

[MattinNJ]

Amen bro. If my family is on that plane and I see that going down I am pounding a raghead within an inch of his life. They can prosecute me and sue me and I bet you I come out smelling like a rose. Even if I didn't they would think twice about doing it again. This PC crap is going to get someone killed.

[diamond6]

Man, I just get more upset each time a sequel to this story comes out.

[diamond6]

Excellent observation!!

[P.O.E.]

Call me a racist if you want, but "I ain't goin' down like that". Confrontation, on a scale beginning with polite, is in order. Problems with that? Go complain to your compatriots and tell them to cut the crap.

[angcat]

Maybe the smelly bastard was taking a bath.

[Publius6961]

BUMP!

[Boazo]

I think their hopelessly addicted to toilet chemicals.
They are musicians you know!

[Southack]

"That is the only way to explain the fact that the air marshalls could not find anything extra in the bathroom and the guy smelled like toilet chemicals when he returned to the seat. Bet the bomb or package is still in the sewage tank of the plane."

That's silly. There are lots of ways to explain why the air marshals found nothing (e.g. there was nothing to find) as well as to explain why the guy smelled like toilet chemicals.

For one thing, Western toilets are entirely different than Syrian toilets ("Handle? What handle? Don't you reach down and press open the shiny metal valve opening?!"). Just as you'd probably do a double-take in a lav with a bidet, so too do Middle-Easterners sometimes freak out about our comodes...many of whom don't understand the whole concept of "flushing" because they are accustomed to a simple open hole in the floor being their septic system.

For another, many a person has dropped a ring, money, watch, glasses, cell phone, or other object into the toilet and been compelled to reach down into the chemicals to retrieve said lost item.

That being said, what I take issue with is your comment that there is no other possible explanation. I'm *not* saying that their behavior wasn't suspicious. It was. It was very suspicious.

But closing our minds to possible explainations doesn't help solve this case. Saying that there is no other way to explain things than your one way just won't cut it.

It's also worth noting that most of these airplane toilets are made in a way that allows *complete* evacuation after a flight; so there is nothing "still there."

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

[Tactical]

No my friend, cowboy spirit is kicking the ass out of the first overgrown monkey that decides he's going to prevent me from going to the restroom.

Hmmm? If you aren't acting like this group of people are reported to have been acting, then what's your problem? Why would anyone being paying any attention to you in the first place?

Lighten up dude, I'm not gonna sit there and watch a group of people hijack my plane. I can't believe you or anyone else would want to just sit there either. No where did I say I was targeting you. I'm looking at a group of people that act as if they are about to try and take control of the plane. If they take action, I'd hope others would want to help control the situation with me. But if I'm alone so be it. I ain't ridin' that plane down crossing my fingers and hoping everything will be alright.

There's no need for you to take personal offense at me, but you might want to be offended by hijackers.

[Melas]

There's no need for you to take personal offense at me, but you might want to be offended by hijackers.

I'm sorry, we're obviously off on the wrong foot. I think the heart of our disagreement is that I think the story here is exaggerated and overblown, and you don't. In a nutshell, some passenger freaked because people were using the bathroom too much.

[Publius6961]

In a nutshell, some passenger freaked because people were using the bathroom too much.

Wrong again.
People freaked out because arab muslims with in-your-face identification as such, were using the bathroom too much. Critical difference, for most of us.
Never mind the other mind games that they were reportedly playing.