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Unpopular vote: If you dump the Electoral College
ALBUQUERQUE TRIBUNE ^ | 8-11-2004 | Jeffry Gardner

Posted on 08/11/2004 4:59:48 PM PDT by suzyq5558

Next time you hear some free spirit say she wants to rid us of the Electoral College take her outside, look skyward and try to spot a big jet flying high overhead. Traveling east or west - it makes no difference.

Have her close her eyes and imagine her favorite presidential candidate on board the plane napping or reading a fascinating article in Newsweek or maybe plugged into an iPod listening to the whining lyrics of John Cougar Mellencamp

(Excerpt) Read more at abqtrib.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: candidates; electorialcollege
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1 posted on 08/11/2004 4:59:49 PM PDT by suzyq5558
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To: suzyq5558

Our forefathers were brilliant to put the electoral college in place. Without it, Philadelphia, NYC, Chicago, LA would choosing the President.


2 posted on 08/11/2004 5:03:12 PM PDT by Merry
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To: suzyq5558

Don't yell at me about excerpting, Ive only posted an article once before way back in 99 and I felt lucky just to get it up here, ok guys.


3 posted on 08/11/2004 5:07:09 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (Sayyyyyy....isnt disingenuous dissembler just a fancy way of saying your a LIAR???)
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To: suzyq5558

Everytime I hear anyone mention getting rid of the EC I wanna give them a swift kick in the @ss.


4 posted on 08/11/2004 5:07:27 PM PDT by visualops (We're sorry, all taglines are currently busy. Please hang up and try again later.)
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To: suzyq5558

If we used the popular vote, there would be a shift away from over-weighting of the least populous states (because the number of electoral votes is proportional to population, plus two per state) which would hurt Conservatives.

But this would not cause attantion to be focused to large costal states, precisely. It would cause attention to be focused on MEDIA MARKETS. We'd be talking about "swing metros" instead of "swing states."

Instead of fighting for states with even splits based on party, they'd be focusing where the undecided/independent vote was greatest. They would leave alone markets where votes were pretty much cast in stone. For instance, largely black markets would be ignored, since Dems take them for granted, and Repubs have little hope to prifit from advertising.


5 posted on 08/11/2004 5:07:58 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: suzyq5558

Ya did fine. I had no trouble clicking on to your link.


6 posted on 08/11/2004 5:08:04 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: suzyq5558
I can still see the now-famous red-county/blue-county map in USA Today nearly four years ago. Red counties voted for President Bush, blue for Gore. The map was overwhelmingly red.


7 posted on 08/11/2004 5:08:15 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Merry

Your right and those boobs out there that htink it should be done away with spend way to much time listening Hitlery or in college somewhere having thier minds filled with crud by some liberal profeser.


8 posted on 08/11/2004 5:08:59 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (Sayyyyyy....isnt disingenuous dissembler just a fancy way of saying your a LIAR???)
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To: fhayek

Thanks :)i need to hear that.


9 posted on 08/11/2004 5:09:49 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (Sayyyyyy....isnt disingenuous dissembler just a fancy way of saying your a LIAR???)
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To: suzyq5558

These people weren't complaining about the electorial college when Clinton won!


10 posted on 08/11/2004 5:10:17 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Beelzebubba

If we did away with the electoral college than then states like Oregon wouldnt matter much and it would supress votes.


11 posted on 08/11/2004 5:11:15 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (Sayyyyyy....isnt disingenuous dissembler just a fancy way of saying your a LIAR???)
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To: suzyq5558
Take away the Electoral College's ability to confer a presidential sheepskin, and that train blows through here [New Mexico, or flyover country in general] faster than a tender moment between the Clintons.

Great metaphor.

12 posted on 08/11/2004 5:13:52 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: diamond6

TADA! they sure werent were they? I'll be back later on. Iam on my way up to volunteer at the RNC election offices this evening. Ive lassoed some family members to go help so it should be fun!


13 posted on 08/11/2004 5:13:53 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (Sayyyyyy....isnt disingenuous dissembler just a fancy way of saying your a LIAR???)
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To: Merry

Nah - let's make ALL the states equal representation almost just like the socialists want - One State, One vote :>)

The conservatives would CRUSH the leftist slugs then!


14 posted on 08/11/2004 5:14:43 PM PDT by steplock
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To: quantim

I love that map!


15 posted on 08/11/2004 5:14:51 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (Sayyyyyy....isnt disingenuous dissembler just a fancy way of saying your a LIAR???)
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To: suzyq5558
The quick answer to this is pragmatic. One third of the Senate can block any proposal to amend the Constitution. That means 34 Senators. Yet more than 17 states are "small" states whose impact in the Electoral College are twice as much in proportion to population as the four largest states. Those Senators would have to betray the obvious interests of their own states to pass such an amendment.

Once an amendment is passed by Congress, 3/4ths of the states must ratify it. It takes only 13 states to block any proposed amendment to the Constitution. Which 13 small states are willing to cut their own political throats if their legislatures ratify that amendment,

COUNT THE NOSES. SUCH AN AMENDMENT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. And other than some legislative garbage promoted by Hillary!, there is no way to dump the Electoral College except through an amendment.

Congressman Billybob

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16 posted on 08/11/2004 5:17:53 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: suzyq5558

You may not believe this (I couldn't at the time), but I have a very liberal friend who sent out an email promoting getting rid of the Electoral College in order to.... (drum roll)...

...end the tyranny of the majority.

I tolerated his mass-emails up to that point but shot him back an email telling him not to send me any more of his hateful ideas.

Tyranny of the majority?

If they get to this point, there is absolutely no saving them.


17 posted on 08/11/2004 5:19:09 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I cant wait to have my DH read this CBB! we were just talking about this very thing! Thanks for the answer to his question.


18 posted on 08/11/2004 5:20:19 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (Sayyyyyy....isnt disingenuous dissembler just a fancy way of saying your a LIAR???)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Tyranny of the majority? If they get to this point, there is absolutely no saving them.

they have all ran off the cliff! they are halfway down to the rocks and they still think they are on solid ground.lunatics one and all.

19 posted on 08/11/2004 5:22:34 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (Sayyyyyy....isnt disingenuous dissembler just a fancy way of saying your a LIAR???)
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To: suzyq5558

Bump


20 posted on 08/11/2004 5:22:38 PM PDT by Gun142 (Where Will You Be When You Get Where You're Going? -- Jerry Clower)
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