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Navy Investigates Warship Collision (Dhow rams JFK in Gulf)
Military.com ^ | August 6, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 08/11/2004 1:32:08 PM PDT by Robe

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1 posted on 08/11/2004 1:32:10 PM PDT by Robe
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To: Robe

Looks like the explosives failed to detonate.


2 posted on 08/11/2004 1:34:37 PM PDT by aomagrat (Where arms are not to be carried, it is well to carry arms.")
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To: Robe

Will JFK get a purple heart for that?...


3 posted on 08/11/2004 1:35:06 PM PDT by Red Badger (The FOURTH ESTATE is the FIFTH COLUMN!.....)
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The Somerset and Kennedy launched boats and helicopters to look for survivors; none was found. Some debris from the dhow was recovered.

No one has contacted the Navy about a missing boat or mariners, Graybeal said.

Dry run.

4 posted on 08/11/2004 1:35:16 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Robe

It was probably unmanned, filled with heavy explosives that failed to detonate, and which subsequently sank.


5 posted on 08/11/2004 1:35:28 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: aomagrat

Or, possibly, they were just testing to see if they could get one through before they wasted a ton of hard-to-get ordinance on a no-hope mission.


6 posted on 08/11/2004 1:36:24 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Robe

I wonder if this was a trial run for another Cole-type of attack on a bigger scale.


7 posted on 08/11/2004 1:36:42 PM PDT by rllngrk33 (The fourth estate in this country has become a fifth column.)
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To: Robe

IMHO, anything unauthorized coming within a quarter mile from an aircraft carrier should be sunk on sight, as a SOP.


8 posted on 08/11/2004 1:37:18 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Robe

Boats just keep running into JFKennedy don't they?


9 posted on 08/11/2004 1:37:56 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Democrat - It's in the dictionary - It's between "delusional" and "dimwit.")
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To: coconutt2000

The bomb didn't go off, that's all. This could have been a disaster.


10 posted on 08/11/2004 1:39:01 PM PDT by Hollywoodghost (Let he who would be free strike the first blow)
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To: Robe

Why in heavens name are we LETTING dhows get that close to our ships??????????????????


11 posted on 08/11/2004 1:39:40 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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But the Kennedy's commander decided to maintain the ship's course while it finished the delicate operation of receiving a plane.

That's the crucial decision--I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it. If this had been an attack, and if the boat had been filled with explosives that detonated and damanged the JFK, everyone would be calling for this guy's head.

12 posted on 08/11/2004 1:40:35 PM PDT by johnfrink
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DHOW!

13 posted on 08/11/2004 1:40:54 PM PDT by bondjamesbond (We live in a wonderful country where any child can grow up to be the next Ronald Reagan.)
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To: LadyPilgrim

Because we do not own international waters.


14 posted on 08/11/2004 1:42:16 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: Robe

I was OOD (Officer of the Deck) on the Independence operating in the Gulf in the early 90's. It was not uncommon for a Dhow to be unmanned or have the 'captain' of the vessel found to be asleep.

Note1 : "The Kennedy was steaming in international waters. A fighter was approaching to land. At some point, the dhow was detected. But the Kennedy's commander decided to maintain the ship's course while it finished the delicate operation of receiving a plane." This would have put the JFK in a Restricted Manuevering situation which would have required the Dhow to avoid the JFK and not the other way around.

This leaves two options: 1) it was deliberate - which some have already proposed - and was either a dry run or a dud. 2) It was adrift/unmanned or just suffering from poor seamanship.
Frankly, I would propose the latter due to the number of instances I saw.

Note2: "The Kennedy itself was unscathed, but two jet fighters on the deck were damaged when one slid into the other as the carrier made a hard turn to avoid the dhow, several Navy officials said." The Air Bos'n might get taken to task for not having these chained and chocked in a timely manner . . . depends on how sharp a turn and what the speed was.


15 posted on 08/11/2004 1:44:30 PM PDT by reed13
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Say it isn't so!


16 posted on 08/11/2004 1:44:46 PM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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Carrier’s run-in with dhow raises red flags
17 posted on 08/11/2004 1:44:50 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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I understand that during a war game, some Marine officer used small fast boats to penetrate the out defensive rings and "sink" a carrier.
18 posted on 08/11/2004 1:46:01 PM PDT by fso301
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While damage could have been done to the carrier, it would take much more to knock the carrier out. Maybe some folks injured, in the area of the blast, but those babies are made to with stand a lot of damages and keep on operating.


19 posted on 08/11/2004 1:48:04 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The time is coming for all true Patriots to rise up and take back this Republic!)
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To: Poohbah

Do you mean to tell me............we can't keep those little pieces of junk away from us because we are in international waters? They are allowed to come that close, is a "right"?

I'm sorry................I think defensively on just about everything!

Why couldn't we use bullhorns and tell them to get back, or BAM?!?! Is that against the international law too?

I don't know international law, I suppose.


20 posted on 08/11/2004 1:49:53 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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