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According to the Constitution Kerry is prohibited from being a senator.
http://www.crushkerry.com/ ^ | Sat Jun 26, 2004 5:25 am | Phantom

Posted on 08/11/2004 8:22:45 AM PDT by crushelits

Kerry is prohibited from being a senator, congressman, vice president and president according to the Constitution.

I don't recall a 2/3rds vote removing his disability to serve, in accordance with Amendment XIV, Section 3. For those that would complain that it is an old amendment intended only for civil war veterans and to help subjugate the south during reconstruction, I would have to say I don’t recall a 2/3rds vote rescinding the Amendment as no longer valid.

***AMENDMENT XIV, Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.***

Kerry was an officer of the United States, and if his actions with VVAW cannot be characterized as "insurrection or rebellion", his admission of killing civilians including a baby could be, since it was contrary to published orders, if this isn't enough, then he also admitted giving aid and comfort to the enemy, at Paris, offering to assist them in any way possible to help bring about a swift end to the war, before doing just that with is testimony to congress and demonstrations fronting for a group of liars that many of whom where either not vets or never in Vietnam.

You will notice there is no constitutional requirement for the citizen to be convicted of the crimes, and since said crimes were publicly admitted, there is no question as to whether or not they have occurred, even though he was never tried and convicted for his actions. In fact, in support of this these, I don’t believe any civil war officers were “convicted” in order to be denied service under this Amendment, or that all the otherwise eligible men of the southern states were “convicted” in order to cut the representation of their state.

Therefore, unless Kerry never took his oath of office, he is barred from service in his current position, AND that of President.

Also remember this:

"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such, its meaning does not alter. That which it meant when it was adopted, it means now." South Carolina v. United States, 199 U.S. 437, 448 (1905).

"Where the meaning of the constitution is clear and unambiguous, there can be no resort to construction to attribute to the founders a purpose of intent not manifest in its letter." Norris v. Baltimore, 172, Md. 667; 192 A 531.0.

"If the legislature clearly misinterprets a constitutional provision, the frequent repetition of the wrong will not create a right." Amos v. Mosley, 74 Fla. 555; 77 So. 619.

In other words, if it says what it says, it means what it says. And that even if congress ignores it for a few years by letting something slide, it still isn’t legal, and can still be redressed for correction.

Bet they don't want to debate that....


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congressman; constitution; kerry; senator; vvaw; warcriminal
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1 posted on 08/11/2004 8:22:48 AM PDT by crushelits
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To: crushelits

Except for one thing--due process.

He was never charged, tried, nor convicted.

End of story.


2 posted on 08/11/2004 8:25:44 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: crushelits

bump!


3 posted on 08/11/2004 8:27:42 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: TomGuy
Except for one thing--due process.

OK, well there is that.

4 posted on 08/11/2004 8:28:17 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: TomGuy

After reading this...I don't see where you have to be charged...just that you did it. It's on tape that we've all seen...wonder if someone should email this to some talk show hosts????


5 posted on 08/11/2004 8:29:33 AM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: crushelits
Oh, I agree, but this is never gonna go anywhere. People have a hard enough time these days wrapping their minds around the language of the FIRST Amendment; never mind expecting them to remember what the next twenty-six even are.

Which fits the agenda perfectly.... if the American public at large were willing to see to it that the Constitution was enforced, the Democratic Party would never be able to find anybody they could run for any office ever again.

-Dan
6 posted on 08/11/2004 8:30:07 AM PDT by Flux Capacitor (FLUSH THE JOHNS IN '04.)
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To: TomGuy

I am no attorney, but I wonder whether a suit against his candidacy could be filed.


7 posted on 08/11/2004 8:31:55 AM PDT by NetValue (They're not Americans, they're democrats. They hate the US Constitution.)
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To: crushelits
Ok, so do something about it. File a lawsuit to prevent Kerry's name from appearing on a ballot.
8 posted on 08/11/2004 8:32:34 AM PDT by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: TomGuy

No due process is required - the provision does NOT require conviction. Granted, I don't think it has a snow ball's chance of working....


9 posted on 08/11/2004 8:33:48 AM PDT by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: crushelits
If this can of worms were opened (extreme long shot) it could just as easily work against Repubs who opposed Willie's military actions.

Or against those who will oppose President Hillary's.

10 posted on 08/11/2004 8:34:02 AM PDT by gdani
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To: NetValue

That could lead to the hildebeast becoming the candidate....let's keep sKerry.


11 posted on 08/11/2004 8:34:02 AM PDT by newfreep
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To: Flux Capacitor

For libs wrapping their minds around the Second Ammendment is even more difficult.


12 posted on 08/11/2004 8:35:38 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (I made my Fortune selling Sugar Coated Cat Turds on a Stick at the DNC Convention)
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To: crushelits

The timing of this discovery is questionable at best. /sarcasm


13 posted on 08/11/2004 8:35:52 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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To: taxcontrol

Ok, how does one do that? I'd be willing to at least check into the procedures to get it started.


14 posted on 08/11/2004 8:36:28 AM PDT by pctech
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To: crushelits

I have a question too. If the Swift Boat Vets keep getting told they can not "testify" about Kerry because they were not on the same boat, then how can Kerry testify about others supposed war crimes if they were not on his boat? If they were on his boat and committed war crimes then he was their commanding officer and he should be held accountable. They can't have it both ways!


15 posted on 08/11/2004 8:36:42 AM PDT by landerwy
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To: NetValue
>>>I am no attorney, but I wonder whether a suit against his candidacy could be filed.


This is the United States of America. Anyone can be sued for anything by anybody at any time.

It would be nice if a conservative lawyer (look what I just wrote: conservative lawyer?! HA!), anyway, a conservative lawyer, ready to retire (in case things go badly), should take on a class-action lawsuit against Kerry, actually ,a team of conservative lawyers suing a bunch of liberals for a bunch of things..If I was a lawyer, I'd do it just for fun.

It would be pure madness! It would be great TV!
16 posted on 08/11/2004 8:38:14 AM PDT by hushpad
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To: Jewels1091; crushelits; TomGuy
That's the way we do things here in the United States of America. A person is not guilty of a crime until they are charged, tried, and convicted. As Tom says, due process.

This is going nowhere. Drop it.

17 posted on 08/11/2004 8:39:04 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: landerwy

Okay, so does it also mean the opposite? That, if the commanding officer is on another Swift Boat in a group, that no one needs to obey him?


18 posted on 08/11/2004 8:39:05 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Used to be sciencediet (aka Tad Rad) but found the solution)
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To: TexasTransplant
Oh, the libs understand the Second Amendment every bit as well as we do.... that's why they're working so hard to foster a nation of total ignorance and apathy, so the 2nd (among others) will be that much easier to get rid of.

-Dan
19 posted on 08/11/2004 8:39:33 AM PDT by Flux Capacitor (FLUSH THE JOHNS IN '04.)
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To: taxcontrol
No due process is required - the provision does NOT require conviction.

Then who decides what "given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof" means and if it applies to Kerry (if that's what your post was about)?
20 posted on 08/11/2004 8:42:27 AM PDT by lelio
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