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Kerry "Corrects Record," "Seared" Memory of Christmas in Cambodia Now "Mistaken Recollection"
Wednesday, August 11, 2004 | Kristinn

Posted on 08/11/2004 6:41:38 AM PDT by kristinn

In an interview this morning on Fox and Friends, Kerry spokeman Jeh Johnson backed off of Democrat presidential nominee Senator John Kerry's repeated statements that he had spent Christmas 1968 on a secret mission in Cambodia.

Fox's Brian Kilmead asked Mr. Johnson whether Sen. Kerry would release the action report from January 20, 1969 regarding purported action in Cambodia.

Mr. Johnson said, "I believe you're referring to an incident that happened near Cambodia. Okay, well John Kerry has said on the record that he had a mistaken recollection earlier. He talked about a combat situation on Christmas Eve, 1968, which at one point he said occurred in Cambodia. He has since corrected the record to say it was someplace on a river near Cambodia and he is certain that at some point subsequent to that he was in Cambodia. My recollection, my understanding is he was not certain about that date.

Mr. Kilmead brought up Sen. Kerry's 1986 floor speech in the Senate where he talked about spending Christmas in Cambodia as being "seared---seared" in his memory.

Mr. Johnson replied, "I believe he's corrected the record to say it was someplace near Cambodia, but he is not certain whether it was actually in Cambodia but he is certain that there was some point subsequent to that that he was in Cambodia."

Mr. Johnson also repeated Sen. Kerry's canard that he left Yale in 1966 and turned down all options to further his education by choosing to serve his country. As was (barely) reported in March of this year, Sen. Kerry asked for and was denied a one year deferment to study in Paris.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christmasncambodia; kerry; kerry2004; kerrylies; militaryrecord; waffles
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To: petitfour

Wow! Fantastic find. That paragraph alone, with its defense of the Communist takeovers of China and Cuba, and this sterling sentence, "We question the very roots of what we are serving," should be enough to do him in. Granted, he was young at the time, but there has been no indication that he changed these opinions later on.


141 posted on 08/11/2004 7:41:20 AM PDT by livius
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To: kristinn

142 posted on 08/11/2004 7:42:17 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: mountaineer
December 13, 1968 Kerry moved to Coastal Division 13, Cam Ranh Bay

December 24, 1968 Kerry involved in combat during the Christmas Eve truce of 1968. The truce was three minutes old when mortar fire exploded around Lieutenant Kerry and his five-man crew. Reacting swiftly, John Kerry and his crew silenced the machine gun nest.

January 22, 1969 Kerry and other Swift boat commanders travel to Saigon for meeting with Adm. Elmo Zumwalt, Commander Naval Forces Vietnam (COMNAVFORV), and Gen. Creighton Abrams, Commander United States Military Assistance Command Vietnam (COMUSMACV)

So where exactly was he on Christmas eve, 1968 -- Cam Ranh Bay or on the Delta? I was at Cam Ranh Bay on Christmas Eve 1968 and don't recall any action, except what I might have read about.

There is one worrying thing. Kerry's service on PCF 94 was from late January 1969 to March. Nixon would have been president then. But what about his journal? Did he lie to his journal?

143 posted on 08/11/2004 7:44:33 AM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: kristinn

PROOF that johnkerry.com is covering up something!

From http://www.google.com.au/search?q=cache:rCHBXsLxdIEJ:www.scienceblog.com/community/older/archives/K/2/pub2117.html+Report+pdf+1969+kerry&hl=en

This file contains after-action ("spot") reports from two of the combat actions in which John Kerry was wounded.

Spot Reports for January, 1969 (pdf: 2.4MB)
Spot Reports for February, 1969 (pdf: 2.1MB)
Spot Reports for March, 1969 (pdf: 301kb)



But compare this to...

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/combat_reports.html

Where is the Spot Report for January 1969 now??


144 posted on 08/11/2004 7:45:15 AM PDT by igoramus987
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To: kristinn
Guys, the thing I found the most disturbing about the Kilmead interview with Johnson is that Brian was so "uncomfortable" doing the interview, as he said. He said that he has such a high regard for anyone who serves this country in the military and puts their life in danger. I agree with him wholeheartedly, but what was disturbing was that he therefore was not comfortable with criticizing Kerry's war record, presumably because he (Brian Kilmead) did not serve. It really scares me that others who haven't served will not be able to distinguish between someone who served honorably and someone who did not, and therefore it could backfire. I didn't feel this way initially, but I'm seeing people that I normally feel are on our side recoiling from this story.

Maybe it would have been better to concentrate and emphasize Kerry's smearing and defaming all Viet vets rather than go into the other stuff. He can't deny it since it was recorded. What was his defense -- the end justified the means? I have no problem with the whole story but I'm not sure that it won't backfire. I am in awe of the Swifties who have put so much on the line, but I don't think any of us want to see Kerry getting sympathy for this in some kind of "blowback". I guess it could go either way, but the stakes are so high.
145 posted on 08/11/2004 7:45:33 AM PDT by Niks
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To: doug from upland
A new song parody for you if you have not done it yet...


146 posted on 08/11/2004 7:49:11 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

I don't know the song. I think I've done 4 songs on the topic already.


147 posted on 08/11/2004 7:50:35 AM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry is a sports fan like Lorena Bobbitt is a surgeon)
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To: Piquaboy

Oh, he wore one, OK? The damn thing broke!


148 posted on 08/11/2004 7:55:09 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: kristinn

149 posted on 08/11/2004 7:55:43 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Did I mention I'm peddling a book?)
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To: kristinn

Kerry's own words before the Seanate regarding Cambodia. See the web site for a photo of the actual news story clipping found in a Law Library.

Kerry Says......
"Mr. President, I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have President of the United States telling the Americans there; the troops were not in Cambodia.
I have that memory which is seared—seared in me. That says to me, before we send another generation into harms way we have responsibility in the U.S. Senate to go the last step, to make the best effort possible in order to avoid that kind of conflict."

Shot at by Khmer Rouge? Put aside all this Swift Boat (blue) Vets vs the Swift Boat (Red) Vets battle. Just take Kerry's own words and use them against him with historical facts.



http://instapundit.com/archives/017068.php


150 posted on 08/11/2004 7:56:04 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: doug from upland

Dead Kennedys...


151 posted on 08/11/2004 7:57:53 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: sergeantdave
The "Cambodia" story is still on the Kerry/Edwards web site!

Check it out. While its still there!

152 posted on 08/11/2004 8:00:16 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: kristinn

I'll be a week's pay that this is ignored by the Liberal Drooling Lapdog Press...


153 posted on 08/11/2004 8:00:20 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Savage Beast

The hypocrisy and double standard of the MSM is unbelievable.

First they assert that Bush's dental records are not sufficient to prove he was in Alabama (they actually alleged his teeth could have been there but not him).

Then they give Kerry a pass for repeatedly lying about his whereabouts during the same period.


154 posted on 08/11/2004 8:01:52 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: finnman69

So let me get this straight. He was in Cambodia before wasn't? Or is it, he wasn't in Cambodia before he was?


155 posted on 08/11/2004 8:03:03 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("I'm just a gigolo, and everywhere I go, people know I'm lyin' about 'Nam".....)
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To: kristinn
Mr. Johnson replied, "I believe he's corrected the record to say it was someplace near Cambodia, but he is not certain whether it was actually in Cambodia but he is certain that there was some point subsequent to that that he was in Cambodia."

Just when you think you've read the worst flip flop, along comes a waffle the size of Texas. Thanks for posting the transcript.

156 posted on 08/11/2004 8:03:42 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: Pharlap
"As a follow-up to this admission, Fox News, and others, should pursue another story about Kerry and Cambodia. See "Hunter, Dreamer, Realist", an article in the Washington Post, June 6, 2003. I picked this article off a link to the Kerry-Edwards web site (it may no longer be there). The article (note the date, which is contemporaneous with Kerry's clear intent to run for the Democrat nomination for president), specifically describes Kerry opening his briefcase and removing a green camouflage hat which he is quoted as calling "My good luck hat." He adds, it was "Given to me by a CIA guy as we went in for a secret mission in Cambodia."'

"WE'RE going through!" The Commander's voice was like thin ice breaking. He wore his full-dress uniform, with the heavily braided white cap pulled down rakishly over one cold gray eye. "We can't make it, sir. It's spoiling for a hurricane, if you ask me." "I'm not asking you, Lieutenant Berg," said the Commander. "Throw on the power lights! Rev her up to 8500! We're going through!" The pounding of the cylinders increased: ta-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa. The Commander stared at the ice forming on the pilot window. He walked over and twisted a row of complicated dials. "Switch on No. 8 auxiliary!" he shouted. "Switch on No. 8 auxiliary!" repeated Lieutenant Berg. "Full strength in No. 3 turret!" shouted the Commander. "Full strength in No. 3 turret!" The crew, bending to their various tasks in the huge, hurtling eight-engined Navy hydroplane, looked at each other and grinned. "The Old Man'll get us through," they said to one another. "The Old Man ain't afraid of hell!" . . .

"Not so fast! You're driving too fast!" said Mrs. Mitty. "What are you driving so fast for?"

"Hmm?" said Walter Mitty. He looked at his wife, in the seat beside him, with shocked astonishment. She seemed grossly unfamiliar, like a strange woman who had yelled at him in a crowd. "You were up to fifty-five," she said. "You know I don't like to go more than forty. You were up to fifty-five." Walter Mitty drove on toward Waterbury in silence, the roaring of the SN202 through the worst storm in twenty years of Navy flying fading in the remote, intimate airways of his mind. "You're tensed up again," said Mrs. Mitty. "It's one of your days. I wish you'd let Dr. Renshaw look you over."

The Secret Life of Walter Mitty by James Thurber

157 posted on 08/11/2004 8:03:48 AM PDT by Semi Civil Servant (ta-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa)
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To: Niks
Guys, the thing I found the most disturbing about the Kilmead interview with Johnson is that Brian was so "uncomfortable" doing the interview, as he said.

I agree. That interview didn't come off very well. i wanted him to make the guy sit there with his tail between his legs. didn't happen. Who else could have done that interview better on the morning team? E.D. ?

158 posted on 08/11/2004 8:04:16 AM PDT by DietCoke
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To: FeliciaCat
How can you possibly forget where you were on Christmas, when you were 2 months up river??? This was a statement in front of Congress to accuse President Nixon of War Crimes. He was accusing Nixon of ordering the invasion of a neutral country in a time of war. Yaaawn should have to explain these accusations or step down! This guy could not shine the shoes of our lowest Private.

Pray for W and Our Amazing Troops

159 posted on 08/11/2004 8:05:41 AM PDT by bray (Yaaaawn Tax , Tax , Tax & Kerry wants your paycheck!)
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To: dawn53

Maybe Cambodia was a woman's name.


160 posted on 08/11/2004 8:05:52 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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