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Hand over nuclear weapons and know-how, Iran tells Britain
Telegraph (UK) ^ | 2004-08-10

Posted on 08/10/2004 4:56:49 PM PDT by Clive

Iran has issued an extraordinary list of demands to Britain and other European countries, telling them to provide advanced nuclear technology, conventional weapons and a security guarantee against nuclear attack by Israel.

Teheran's request, said by British officials to have "gone down very badly", sharply raises the stakes in the crisis over Iran's nuclear programme, which Britain and America believe is aimed at making an atomic bomb.

Iran's move came during crisis talks in Paris this month with senior diplomats from Britain, France and Germany.

The "EU-3" were trying to convince Iranian officials to honour an earlier deal to suspend its controversial uranium enrichment programme, which is ostensibly designed to make fuel for nuclear power stations but could also be used to make fissile material for nuclear bombs. Iranian officials refused point-blank to comply, saying they had every right under international law to pursue "peaceful" nuclear technology.

They then stunned the Europeans by presenting a letter setting out their own demands.

Iran said the EU-3 should support Iran's quest for "advanced (nuclear) technology, including those with dual use" - a reference to equipment that has both civilian and military applications.

The Europeans should "remove impediments" preventing Iran from having such technology, and stick to these commitments even if faced with "legal (or) political . . . limitations", an allusion to American pressure or even future international sanctions against Iran.

More astonishingly, Iran said the EU-3 should agree to meet Iran's requirements for conventional weapons and even "provide security assurances" against a nuclear attack on Iran.

This is a reference to Israel's nuclear arsenal, believed to include some 200 warheads and long-range missiles to deliver them.

The EU-3 are still debating over how to respond, but British officials said the Iranian letter was "extremely surprising, given the delicate state of process". Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, will have to decide whether to adopt a more confrontational policy.

America is demanding that the board of governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which meets next month, refer Iran to the UN Security Council for possible sanctions. US officials are also openly discussing "covert" means of disrupting the Iranian nuclear programme, while Israel has openly threatened military action.

However, there were signs yesterday that the next report of Mohammed ElBaradei, the IAEA director general, may give Iran a boost.

A key mystery for the past year has been the source of traces of highly-enriched uranium (HEU) found by IAEA inspectors at several sites in Iran. Teheran claimed this was "contamination" of equipment imported from other countries, rather than proof that it had secretly made HEU.

According to diplomats, inspectors have confirmed that in at least one case the contamination did come from Pakistan, as Iran claimed.

Other contamination issues remain unresolved, and may never be settled. Moreover there are several other open questions.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; irannukes
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To: Clive

The fact that the Mad Iranian Mullahs even *THINK* that they can 'negotiate' with the Europeons this way is very telling. Heck, it's worked before with the Liberalized sissy pricks over the pond (excluding allies and coalition partners) and terrorists.

Mad Iranian Mullahtocracy: Go Suck Eggs you demon-possessed, women-abusing pedophile-pigs...


101 posted on 08/10/2004 5:51:07 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: francisurquhart

I don't think we'd wait until Iran used a nuke. It would be preemptive. Maybe from a submarine. Or maybe special ops. I can't believe we sat on our hands all this time while Iran got busy refining plutonium or whatever. We've been making contacts inside Iran, and there's a sizable population of people who want the regime overthrown. Not enough to do it on their own, though. By the way, do we thank Pakistan for selling some of this stuff, plus expertise to Iran? Or does Russia deserve all the kudos?


102 posted on 08/10/2004 5:52:45 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Grampa Dave

If so please post the links and his complete statement asap here on Free Republic or they will disappear.



probably true if we fry some eggs in Iran this next week or three...


103 posted on 08/10/2004 5:52:49 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: francisurquhart
For those who know diplomacy: this is the diplomatic equivilant of the middle finger. If Iran is really behaving like this we've got every reason to be very worried about what stage their program is at.

Will Rogers once said, "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy' until you can find a rock."

If Iran's through saying "nice doggy", then...

104 posted on 08/10/2004 5:52:59 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

One near Guam or Midway?


105 posted on 08/10/2004 5:53:31 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
France's head is so far up the mullah's butt... if he sneezes their heads will pop.

France has nothing to gain from Iran (ie no kickbacks, bribes, etc.). The only reason why the EU is doing this is because they want a diplomatic victory under their belt. Then throw it in the face of Bush claiming that the Iraq war was unnecessary because they just demonstrated it with Iran.

Remember, France is only motivated by increasing it's power. They only way it can do that is to diminish the US because they cannot afford the military route. Stoopid frogs.

106 posted on 08/10/2004 5:53:34 PM PDT by rudypoot
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To: Peach

We're always warning Israel off about something or other. Sigh.


107 posted on 08/10/2004 5:54:10 PM PDT by hershey
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To: hershey

france and china helped.

we have a planet full of enemies.
enemies that kerry wants us to befriend.

screw him... and them.


108 posted on 08/10/2004 5:54:11 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Grampa Dave
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/national_security/strategy.html Prevent Iran From Developing Nuclear Weapons. A nuclear armed Iran is an unacceptable risk to the national security of the United States and our allies in the region. While we have been preoccupied in Iraq, Iran has reportedly been moving ahead with its nuclear program. We can no longer sit on the sidelines and leave the negotiations to the Europeans. It is critical that we work with our allies to resolve these issues and lead a global effort to prevent Iran from obtaining the technology necessary to build nuclear weapons. Iran claims that its nuclear program is only to meet its domestic energy needs. John Kerry's proposal would call their bluff by organizing a group of states to offer Iran the nuclear fuel they need for peaceful purposes and take back the spent fuel so they cannot divert it to build a weapon. If Iran does not accept this offer, their true motivations will be clear. Under the current circumstances, John Kerry believes we should support the International Atomic Energy Agency's (IAEA) efforts to discern the full extent of Iran's nuclear program, while pushing Iran to agree to a verifiable and permanent suspension of its enrichment and reprocessing programs. If this process fails, we must lead the effort to ensure that the IAEA takes this issue to the Security Council for action.
109 posted on 08/10/2004 5:54:24 PM PDT by francisurquhart (You might think that, but I couldn't possibly comment.)
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To: francisurquhart

Plus, the US has been quietly and successfully testing an anti-missile system.


110 posted on 08/10/2004 5:55:26 PM PDT by hershey
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To: My Favorite Headache
Wanna bet that this will be blamed on Bush? How you ask? He invaded the wrong "I" country. Then with the fine folks over in North Korea...Bush will be blamed for not paying attention to the real threats....oh boy...

And the hell of it is, they'd be pretty much right. I still think Iraq was the right thing to do (especially since it was probably intended as a stepping stone to putting pressure -- and if need be military force -- on Iran), but if Iran actually is this close to having their own nuclear weapons, then *everyone* who let things slide this far bears the blame.

111 posted on 08/10/2004 5:57:40 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: hershey
True, we'll cover Israel's bet here. But if we hesitate, Israel won't.

Right, Israel will be all over them like white on rice. And will not take much more trash talking like this for Israel react.

I find it interesting that basically Iran is talking trash at Israel indirectly,i.e. “threatening" the UK. It will interesting to see if they have the balls to talk trash like this directly to Israel’s face.

112 posted on 08/10/2004 5:58:48 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas
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To: hershey; judicial meanz; ExSoldier

If they don't have nuclear tips on a couple of sunburns right now, they will very shortly.

This may be an attempt by Iran to move up an Israeli pre-emption and justify an nuclear response.


113 posted on 08/10/2004 5:59:33 PM PDT by HipShot (EOM couldn't cut the head off a beer with a chainsaw)
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To: francisurquhart

I say we give both Iran and N. Korea Nukes. Instead of allowing them to make one that is inferior.

Here is the plan: Their Scientists can reverse engineer the ones we supply, that is IF, they fail to go BOOM.

And then after making that announcement, say and by the way They are in flight and should arrive any moment.


114 posted on 08/10/2004 5:59:58 PM PDT by Michael121 (An old soldier knows truth. Only a Dead Soldier knows peace.)
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To: thoughtomator

If they already have the bomb, then why would they be asking London for it?

Iran is in a box. The Americans have slowly cornered them. We are on their East in Afghanistan and on their West in Iraq. Our president has labeled them as part of the axis of evil. Libya, which made Iran look rational with their wacky behavior for the better part of a generation, has now decided to play ball on our team.

Iran knows that within a few months of the Bush re-election, we're going to make our run at them. And so they have two cards they're playing.

First, they try to destabilize Iraq; thus making Bush look bad and undermining his chances for re-election.

If that fails, their second (and only other) card is the nuclear option. They're trying to buy a nuke from Pakistan, North Korea, or anyone who'll sell it to them. If that doesn't work, they're trying to make one themselves. If they get a nuke, it will prevent us from attacking them (maybe).

But what's the best thing to do if you don't yet have a nuke? Pretend you do. Act wacky. Whatever. Just make people think you might have it already. I think that's what they're doing now.

It's desperation we're watching.


115 posted on 08/10/2004 6:00:51 PM PDT by pie_eater
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To: RightWhale
When Iran actually gets a nuke or two, they will probably make some outrageous demands, especially of Israel, that could lead directly to war. That will consist of an ultimatim, followed by rejection, followed by war.

That was exactly Hitler's strategy for keeping the world off balance while he "defended himself" by invading Czechoslovakia and Poland, and it worked.

116 posted on 08/10/2004 6:01:23 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: hershey
I don't think we'd wait until Iran used a nuke.

Correct. But don’t worry; Israel has a less patience than us. They’ll take care of business while we are still thinking about it.

117 posted on 08/10/2004 6:02:06 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas
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To: ExSoldier; judicial meanz

Another "over extension" ping.


118 posted on 08/10/2004 6:02:32 PM PDT by HipShot (EOM couldn't cut the head off a beer with a chainsaw)
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To: hershey; francisurquhart

I don't suppose that it is fair to say that we have sat on our hands on this matter up to this point. It probably *is* fair to say that we have operations ongoing WRT several eventualities in Iran.

If Iran used a nuclear weapon, they would be hit with a nuclear weapon (or two, or three) in response. No question about it. That is not to say that it would necessarily be Tehran or any heavy civilian populated area. It doesn't have to be, and there might be little point or effect from killing millions of Iranians. The Mullahs certainly don't care about that.

Its quite likely that there are other responses that will be equally or more disruptive as well. In a way... our capabilities with precision weapons have in some ways made massive weapons like nukes obsolete for many purposes. Not all purposes, but many.


119 posted on 08/10/2004 6:04:15 PM PDT by Ramius (The pieces are moving. We come to it at last. The great battle of our time.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

Just look at all the stuff the dorks at Komrad Kerry's Kamp have eliminated, erased and deleted from Kerry's website since the Dox in Sox event.

Apparently the 1968 White Christmas in Cambodia non adventure by al Kerri has been pulled from the website since yesterday.

A local friend joked that in about a month, the only thing on Kerry's site will be the donation page.

If people have something sounds weird that Kerry has said or will say, we need to save it.


120 posted on 08/10/2004 6:04:56 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has the Franchurian Dork candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri ever not lied to Americans!")
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