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SHIP v.s. BOAT - Lanny Davis and DNC newest smear tactic.

Posted on 08/10/2004 6:44:34 AM PDT by chambley1

Lanny Davis, on FOX News Hannity and Clones smeared Swift Boat for Truth vet Mr. Gardner by constantly stating his fellow vets never served on Kerry's ship!

It's they're newest trick to smear the truth - make people think Kerry's ship was a destroyer or something - not a "ski" boat with an Evinrude outboard that served side-by-side with other swift boats and CREWS.

The Swift Boat Vet for Truth should take a scale model of their swift boat to all interviews to refute the DNC smear merchants.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: dnc; lannydavis; lannyliarlenin; swiftboatveterans
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To: Conspiracy Guy

A "boat" may be hoisted, a ship cannot.


101 posted on 08/10/2004 9:37:24 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: glock rocks

I requested river patrol twice in 1970 until the Chief told me "Shut the F**k up A**hole, you're not going anywhere". He probably saved my butt and I'm not even grateful.


102 posted on 08/10/2004 9:41:26 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: dljordan

Arr


103 posted on 08/10/2004 9:46:58 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar !")
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To: angkor

That's 'cause you served on subs.

Ain't no chief in da surface navy gonna call his "ship" a boat ....


104 posted on 08/10/2004 9:50:10 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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To: All

A bunch of posters got it right in that a boat can be carried by a ship. Let's get quantitative. Floating cranes can safely lift 100 tons. Thus, a vessel displacing 100 tons can be classified as a boat if it can be carried as deck cargo aboard a ship. That would mark the outer limit of what can be called a boat.


105 posted on 08/10/2004 10:10:02 AM PDT by kilowhskey (John Kerry: The boomer generation's Thomas Eagleton)
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To: Congressman Billybob

"Lanny Davis is a lawyer's lawyer,...."

LOL

I am not a lawyer however, worked with them and know their method of operation and just like any part of society at large there are the negative and the positive.


Lanny serves his masters well, but no more, a "ship" won't fit on a "john" boat, or on those rivers that these Swift Vets patrolled.


106 posted on 08/10/2004 10:26:07 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Lazamataz

Lazarette?

You have your own brand of Cigarettes?


107 posted on 08/10/2004 11:00:03 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Yep, the latest spin is that if you weren't on the same BOAT as Kerry then you didn't serve with him. You could be under the same command, in the same squadron, on the same river, at the same locatio at the same time and in the same battles as Kerry, but if you weren't on the SAME BOAT, you don't know what went on.

Flack-faced Lannie Davis needs to talk to some of the guys that lived cheek-by-jowl with each other aboard the Swiftboats.

It's obvious that scuttlebutt labelled Kerry as a notorious short-time "gamester" looking to save his own "lily-white ass" so he could plump it down someday in the Oval Office.

As demonsrated by the list of Command personnel now coming out to expose Kerry's duplicity, these guys were one tight-knit group that lived under one invisible roof.

A DAY DURING THE MONSOON WHEN MOST OF THE BOATS WERE STAYING IN
(MONKEY MOUNTAIN BACKGROUND)

DANANG VIETNAM 1967

108 posted on 08/10/2004 11:33:33 AM PDT by henbane
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To: Conspiracy Guy
The distinction between "ship" and "boat" was originally one of displacement.

The term "destroyer" is a shortened form of its original name: "torpedo-boat destroyer." As the full name implies, the destroyer was originally intended to screen fleet units (battleships and cruisers) from torpedo boats.

Submarines are called "boats" because of tradition--in the early days of submarine ops, the subs were not big enough to rate the honorific of "ship." Today's USS Ohio (SSBN 726, presently in dock being converted to the first SSGN), at 18,000 tons, is far larger than the last battleship built that bore the name Ohio--but she is still referred to as a "boat."

109 posted on 08/10/2004 11:38:25 AM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: Poohbah

OK.


110 posted on 08/10/2004 11:42:01 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy, Secretary of Humor and Tomfoolery)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Thank you.

btw, I like your resume - very impressive
[actually it's because of the 3d CAD, I work with that type of CAD. If you can design it, you're a genius]

111 posted on 08/10/2004 12:40:55 PM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: MizSterious

chambley 1 - USCG Base Chetco River, Brookings, Oregon 1983-1984:

"I never went underway with a ship, I went underway with another boat with enough elisted guts on crew to save my elisted ass from the wrath of the Pacific."

.....if John Kerry were a toilet seat, he'd bolt it down just to absorb a leak.


112 posted on 08/10/2004 12:53:07 PM PDT by chambley1 (n)
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To: angkor

"Still, I heard a heck of a lot of fleet Chiefs calling their ships "my boat" (e.g., Third-Class Angkor, fix those !*(@& comms now, or get the he&& off my $#%$# boat!")"

Yep. It's sort of a term of affection that sailors use for their ship. We used to always refer to going back to the "boat". (Although we weren't all that enamored with it). :)


113 posted on 08/10/2004 1:11:28 PM PDT by brownsfan (Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life.)
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To: henbane; Conspiracy Guy; Hon; Congressman Billybob
Now remember, as this picture clearly shows, if you weren't actually serving ON the exact same boat as John F'king Kerry, you couldn't tell what was going on, and how the other crews acted, and how the other skippers behaved under fire and during their missions.

You were "so far" from them (because you served on other boats) that you have "no right" to talk about the other crews ....

/sarcasm, looking at twelve boats tied up so close you can step one to the next ...
114 posted on 08/10/2004 2:50:07 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

RIGHT.


115 posted on 08/10/2004 2:56:01 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy, Secretary of Humor and Tomfoolery)
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To: Condor51
Ok I agree for the most part, except subs are called 'boats'

Traditionally, so were destroyers, and in 1907 the Royal Navy built what it classed as a "Special Boat" HMS Swift, which at 2200 tons w. 1 x 6" & 2 x 4" guns was larger and more powerful than some contempory cruisers.

116 posted on 08/10/2004 4:22:57 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: Conspiracy Guy

The difference between ships and boats is that ships can carry boats, and boats can't.


117 posted on 08/10/2004 4:24:31 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Conan the Librarian
A ship is a boat with more that Three masts. Old Navy tradition anyway.

Two. A three master is a ship.

118 posted on 08/10/2004 4:26:01 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: Piquaboy

Not ants...crabs. Estrich has been a Dem whore all her life.


119 posted on 08/10/2004 4:29:18 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Conan the Librarian

USN A boat is anything you can put on a ship Subs were first launched from a ship(one man) and have been known as a "boat"ever since


120 posted on 08/10/2004 4:33:23 PM PDT by theriotcat
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