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1 posted on 08/08/2004 5:09:57 PM PDT by Steven W.
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You're goin' DOWN, Hanoi John!
54 posted on 08/08/2004 5:34:34 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John lies!)
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IMHO; J 'effin Kerry is a pathological liar!
61 posted on 08/08/2004 5:35:56 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("Let's roll" in 2004 ----- Vote GOP!)
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I think this election is not about Kerry at all. It's about the President. Even the Democrats don't like Kerry. They didn't need a reason to dislike him so his war record is not a deal breaker.

This election is simply a vote of confidence on George W. Bush.

Approximately half the people in this country would put Hitler in charge to get rid of W. It's a sad reality.

65 posted on 08/08/2004 5:37:29 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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Hmmmm, kerry spent Christmas in Cambodia, and impeached '42 remembers black churches being burnt in Arkansas when he was a child. Only trouble, neither of these things really happened. Still, they make awfully good stories.


67 posted on 08/08/2004 5:37:59 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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Bill Clinton’s draft dodging was a failure of personal character to be sure. John Kerry’s false claim of courage and heroism is an equally disgusting failure of personal character because it spits in the face of real heroes who faced great peril and paid a terrible price in blood. To dishonor the courageous few who made such great sacrifices is unforgivable.


74 posted on 08/08/2004 5:41:14 PM PDT by Unmarked Package
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On the BORDER of Cambodia on Christmas Eve instead of in Cambodia on Christmas day?

I got all breathless for nothing.

There's such a thing as shooting yourself in the foot, these small boat vets are doing it by putting out nonsense like this instead of sticking to the dispute about the Senate testimony etc


79 posted on 08/08/2004 5:43:40 PM PDT by Soundman4x4
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God bless Matt for keeping the story alive.


Wish O'Reilly and Britt had the same stones.


82 posted on 08/08/2004 5:44:30 PM PDT by wardaddy (Fox News has jumped the shark......God save Hannity)
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Wonder if Tommy Franks still thinks Kerry is "absolutely" qualified to be commander in chief. LOL


93 posted on 08/08/2004 5:48:58 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's floats, Mary Jo's don't!)
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Yeah here is another one. This is a lie on the face. On Christmas 1968 Nixon wasn't even President yet. Johnson was still in office.


95 posted on 08/08/2004 5:49:25 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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What gets me - Effin' Kerry was there - what - 132 days? In that short amount of very intense time, he probably could recall many meals that he had even though it was 30 years ago.

These stories need to be placed on some sort of timeline...

98 posted on 08/08/2004 5:50:15 PM PDT by Libloather (What did Bergler stow - and when did he stow it?)
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It's just astonishing how easy it is to keep Swift Vets threads in Breaking News these days...

I couldn't have snuck one by you guys a month ago if I'd sacrificed a goat in your honor.

128 posted on 08/08/2004 6:04:59 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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In a TV interview conducted by Greta Van Susteren with Michael Kranish and Nina Eason of the Boston Globe the following interchange occurred, which mentioned Kerry's oft stated contention that he spent XMAS Eve in Cambodia in 1968:
VAN SUSTEREN: Michael, did he cooperate at all with this or participate or sit down for interviews?


MICHAEL KRANISH, KERRY BIOGRAPHER: Well, sure. We did a series last year. It was a seven part series that ran 14 pages in the newspaper and he sat down for about ten hours of interviews for this series.

The book was written during the time when he was still running for the nomination right at the height of the Super Tuesday primaries and so forth, so our material for interviews was from the series.

To go back to your question you asked Nina, you know, he's also a skeptic of government. So, you ask why does he go, some people say flip- flop, other people would say why does he question things the way that he does?

A very short anecdote, he was in Vietnam and he was in Cambodia as part of a mission. I don't know if he intended to go but that's where he was but the government that was running the war knew that troops were in Cambodia but Nixon, President Nixon at the time was telling the American public, "We're not in Cambodia."

So, from a very early time, John Kerry is skeptical of government and he came back to protest the war that he participated in, so this is where some of this inner belief comes from. He does -- he did serve but he also questioned.

O'Neill's book shoots this out the water. Besides the fact that Nixon wasn't President at the time (Dec 1968), which is an obvious misstatement, O'Neill points out that:

"During Christmas 1968, Kerry was stationed at Coastal Division 13 in Cat Lo. Coastal Division 13’s patrol areas extended to Sa Dec, about fifty-five miles from the Cambodian border. Areas closer than fifty-five miles to the Cambodian border in the area of the Mekong River were patrolled by PBRs, a small river patrol craft, and not by Swift Boats. Preventing border crossings was considered so important at the time that an LCU (a large, mechanized landing craft) and several PBRs were stationed to ensure that no one could cross the border. A large sign at the border prohibited entry. Tom Anderson, Commander of River Division 531, who was in charge of the PBRs, confirmed that there were no Swifts anywhere in the area and that they would have been stopped had they appeared.


164 posted on 08/08/2004 6:37:49 PM PDT by kabar
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Right about now..........I'm even doubting his name is really John Kerry.


172 posted on 08/08/2004 6:42:29 PM PDT by RightOnline
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This is in the free chapter at human events that has been available online for days.


178 posted on 08/08/2004 6:50:24 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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After Al Gore you'd think the Dems would learn their lesson about supporting candidates that so obviously lie.

Not that I'm complaining.


194 posted on 08/08/2004 7:08:44 PM PDT by Brytani (Stop, hey, what's that sound, it's just John Kerry flip-flopping around!!!)
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Hey! I was in Cambodia too!

203 posted on 08/08/2004 7:20:18 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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"All the living commanders in Kerry’s chain of command . . . deny that Kerry was ever ordered to Cambodia. They indicate that Kerry would have been seriously disciplined or court-martialed had he gone there. At least three of the five crewmen on Kerry’s boat, Bill Zaldonis, Steven Hatch, and Steve Gardner, deny that they or their boat were ever in Cambodia. "

Are they willing to step forward and vouch for truth? Or will they remain silent?

Looks to me like this organization needs to run some more ads.


208 posted on 08/08/2004 7:25:03 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Hanoi Kerry caught in another lie! PING

(Wonder if Hanoi Kerry knew Johnson was President in Dec 68)


211 posted on 08/08/2004 7:26:06 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (It only takes one idiot to raze a village.)
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Easy explanaiton:

"I spent Christmas in Cambodia before I didn't."


216 posted on 08/08/2004 7:37:51 PM PDT by harrycarey
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bump


219 posted on 08/08/2004 7:55:21 PM PDT by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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