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Can Voters See Through Sham Ads? (See BS semi-barf alert)
See BS News.com ^ | August 6, 2004 | Dotty Lynch

Posted on 08/06/2004 9:14:41 PM PDT by buzzyboop

"It’s the same kind of deal that was pulled on me," Sen. John McCain snapped when he heard about a new ad from an "independent" group, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, claiming John Kerry lied about what occurred in Vietnam. McCain was referring to campaign tactics by the Bush campaign and a "527" group funded by Bush supporters against him in the 2000 campaign.

McCain also came to the defense of his fellow Vietnam vet, calling the ad "dishonest and dishonorable" and asking the White House to condemn it as well. They stopped short of doing that, but said that they had no quibble with John Kerry’s service in Vietnam and then turned the argument around to Kerry, decrying use of soft money on "shadow" campaigns.

In fact, President Bush and his campaign have been Caesar’s wife on the issue of Kerry’s service. Except for one slip by Karen Hughes when she said she was "very troubled by Kerry’s allegations that Vietnam vets were guilty of atrocities, the President and the campaign have deliberately stayed away from the issue, leaving the dirty work to others.

And, a slew of other Republicans and conservatives have stepped into the breach. Rush Limbaugh, the National Review, Sean Hannity among others have had a field day on Kerry’s service medals and his anti-war years and the Swift Boat Veterans have only begun to fight.

The group has been heavily funded by Houston conservative Bob Perry, who has given over $5 million to Republicans in the past few years. Along with the ad, there is a book "Unfit for Command" which is being published by right-wing Regnery Press and being publicized by the conservative magazine Human Events, which shares office space with Regnery. The PR firm handling the projects is Creative Response Concepts run by former Pat Buchanan communications director Greg Mueller with the help of former Pat Robertson communications director, Mike Russell.

The co-author of the book is John O’Neill who has been debating John Kerry since the 1970s. In fact, it was the Nixon White House, not the Bush one, which was obsessed with Kerry’s Vietnam service and anti-war history. Nixon himself spent an hour with O’Neill before he debated Kerry on the Dick Cavitt Show in 1971 and the current Swift Boat Vets saga has a rather Nixonian cast. Former Nixon aide Pat Buchanan has been out defending the project and pushing the book.

The Bush campaign has let this and other "independent" groups tar Kerry’s Vietnam service but it is the Kerry campaign which has really hit the mother lode in the 527 department. The top four Democratic groups -- Americans Coming Together, the Media Fund, Move On and the New Democratic Network -- have spent $75 million so far this cycle.

They have allowed Kerry and Edwards to say over and over that they are running positive campaigns while they pound away at Bush and Cheney. On Friday, former Kerry campaign manager Jim Jordan through his 527, ACT, blasted "George W. Bush and his shameful record of lying about his Vietnam 'service'" and raised questions about VP Cheney’s "six deferments" while Kerry himself remained above the fray and Edwards decried negative politics.

Except for wishing that they could control all that spending, the Kerry campaign has taken a rather benign attitude toward these groups viewing them as rich, roguish cousins rather than black sheep of the family.

Occasionally, they wince at Move On, which gins up the party’s liberal base sponsoring theater parties with Michael Moore and running controversial anti-war ads that risk alienating the more moderate swing voters.

Voters are smart and will be able to see through these shams. Both campaigns are run by strategists who are masters of negative campaigning and who have a "take-no-prisoners" track record. It’s up to the candidates to control these instincts. Pretending they are powerless to control these groups, calls into question just what kind of leaders they are.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; 527; 527groups; ads; edwards; kedwards; kerry; mccain; moveonorg; swiftboatveterans; unfit; unfitkerry; verryleftwards
A half-hearted attempt at 'balance' (that's the sham in this story) at the end.
1 posted on 08/06/2004 9:14:41 PM PDT by buzzyboop
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To: buzzyboop
McCain also came to the defense of his fellow Vietnam vet,

LOL! Which one?

2 posted on 08/06/2004 9:17:55 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: buzzyboop

Has Kerry denied any of this or have any of the claims been disproven???


3 posted on 08/06/2004 9:20:28 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
Check out this thread of anti-kerry signs!
4 posted on 08/06/2004 9:20:57 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: buzzyboop
Can Voters See Through Sham Ads?

Sure, every time I see an ad that claims John Kerry is a real war hero. I keep thinking they're spoofs, but my husband says they're trying to be serious.

Pass it around - Kerry is hiding his military records so the truth never gets out!

5 posted on 08/06/2004 9:40:33 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: buzzyboop

The article headline assumes that they are SHAM ads and thus begins the bias.


6 posted on 08/06/2004 9:44:28 PM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: buzzyboop
>> Voters are smart and will be able to see through these shams.

What is Dotty saying? Shams. Does that imply that one or the other campaigns are directly involved in saying what move on or Swift Boat Vets puts on the air? That would be illegal, so I'm sure nothing of the sort is happening. Of course the media does have a say in what the 527 groups put on the air. Most all of them have rejected some of the move on ads, and are presently questioning the SBVFT spot.

And funny Dotty mentions the (R)ich Texan that is contributing to pro-Bush 527 groups, but doesn't mention the key benefactor of the anti-Bush side's main organ. The lamestream media rarely mentions them though. (R)ich implies a political affiliation more consistently that way, so they need not always mention it's name. Wouldn't want to show a bias, you know. Can voters see through that sham?

7 posted on 08/06/2004 9:46:00 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Going partly violent to the thing since Nov. 25, 2000.)
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To: buzzyboop

Has McLame cited any example of "dishonesty" in the Swiftboat ad? Or is he just full of crap?


8 posted on 08/06/2004 9:48:28 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus
I haven't heard anything other than paraphrasing him characterizing it as a dirty trick. But I'm pretty sure it's the full of crap one.
9 posted on 08/06/2004 9:58:23 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Going partly violent to the thing since Nov. 25, 2000.)
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To: buzzyboop
The group has been heavily funded by Houston conservative Bob Perry, who has given over $5 million to Republicans in the past few years.

All I can find for Robert Perry's donations in 2004 was $1,000 to Bush. That's no big deal, if this is the same Perry. They said he was a Republican. How many years are they talking about? 20? 30? 40 years?

10 posted on 08/06/2004 10:00:44 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: ozzymandus

Or is he just full of crap?

He's full of crap as usual.


11 posted on 08/06/2004 10:08:28 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: concerned about politics
Swifties disclosure says $100K from Perry, chicken feed compared to moveon.org etc.
Except for wishing that they could control all that spending, the Kerry campaign has taken a rather benign attitude toward these groups viewing them as rich, roguish cousins rather than black sheep of the family.
Oh give me a break, there's no legal communication but you know there's bar talk etc, even emails.
12 posted on 08/06/2004 10:41:52 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: buzzyboop
McCain also came to the defense of his fellow Vietnam vet, calling the ad "dishonest and dishonorable"

Are there any "investigative" journalists left to ask McCain to specify exactly what is "dishonest and dishonorable" about the ads? Echo media lurkers. Where's your integrity?

13 posted on 08/06/2004 11:31:43 PM PDT by Fenris6
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To: buzzyboop
... Pretending they are powerless to control these groups, calls into question just what kind of leaders they are.

I think that everyone who agrees with this analysis should seriously consider voting for a third party candidate.

14 posted on 08/07/2004 3:07:10 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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