Posted on 08/06/2004 3:55:06 PM PDT by Mini-14
Dr Keyes is not getting married, my friend. He's running for public office. And there are countless examples of great men in public life who ran several times, before being elected. As to Connie Hair, she was a great Freeper and I'm sure she gave one hundred per cent when she worked for Dr Keyes too. What's quite obvious is that some of the Keyes-bashers are motivated solely because by their unrequited issues about Connie. Which is pretty pathetic, don't you think?
ROFLMAO. No, but you're damn good on arrogance and insults, By-boy.
My attitude towards Keyes is based on the fact that he often appears to be slightly deranged.
Some people dote on that fire-and-brimstone old-time-religion speechifying.
Most people are hugely put off by it.
We'll see. Personally, I abhor dilettantes who snipe away from the sidelines, and spend too much time worrying about their image to actually accomplish anything. So it's all subjective. I would say to those who don't like Dr Keyes style, 'fine. Have your little shot at him, and move on. If you're going to stalk the threads, dismay his supporters, and undermine the morale of his campaign, then at least be honest- it's not just his style, you dislike.'
What I'm worried about is that Keyes will put the Indian sign on some GOP candidates who are facing tough campaigns, such as congressmen who are in swing districts.
Keyes won't help their chances and may well harm them.
Keys has said virtually nothing bad about Bush since 9/11.
contrast that with John McCain's rhetoric and...wait a minute...isn't McCain speaking at the convention???
Well, now I'm just confused!
/sarcasm
So, how about a little stratagizing?
Keyes heavily emphasizes the grassroots, and it has been show to work in other places to great effect (Oklahoma, Pennsylvania) in this cycle. So, given that there are many of us outside Illinois who feel we want to contribute to this effort, what can we do (besides donation)?
Well, looking at the map of the 2000 presidential results, I find that there are only fifteen, out of 101 counties, in which Gore won by more than 5%.
As it happens, these are mostly clustered in counties near the state borders.
So, do you live in Iowa, or Northern Missouri or Southern Minnesota and want to put feet to your sympathies?
The Davenport area needs work.
Missouri? Cross the river at St. Louis and you'll find lots of work.
Kentucky? Several counties in Southern Illinois need work.
Northern Indiana, Wisconsin? Cook County.
Now, I'm no campaign expert by any remote stretch, but it seems logical to me that if there were alot of grassroots workers in these other areas, then the campaign would be free to invest what limited resources they obtain in heavily working Cook county to try to cut down the margin there.
Gore won Cook by 41% was time and without it, he lost the state pretty clearly. If grassroots activism can switch all the close counties, and cut the margins in those areas I mentioned (which I think is doable) then the thing rests on whether the margin in Cook can be cut to something like 30% - which, frankly, I doubt - then you ought to be in the ballpark of a upset.
The sad truth is that he could, with 22,000 strategical placed votes, win every other county in Illinois and if he doesn't cut into that Cook County lead, he'd still lose by half a million votes.
So the grassroots has to deliver BETTER results in the Bush counties, closer margins if not wins in the Gore counties (some won by a very small margin) and free up the campaign to concentrate on Cook. Pick up 35,000 more votes than Bush in the rest of the state at least.
Then it will still take a miracle for Keyes to add the 250K he'll have to pick up in Cook, it'll mean cutting that 41% margin to about 14%.
But hey - never say never. There exceedingly long odds, but there not as long as the odds he ran against in 2000.
Good to know there are so many folks who dream the dream in any case.
One final thought - what would be the chance of importing a campaign rainmaker like Ralph Reed to run this thing? Surely at least the National party can arrange something like that?
Two of us from The ThreatMatrix Thread will be there!
Any way to recognize a fellow Freeper or two?
I voted my conscience in the Presidential Primary four years ago:
Keyes
IMHO we must do everything to elect Alan!
I have Daley here in the City
Blago for our Gov
I cannot have Obama!
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We are researching Obama on Threat Matrix:
his mother was a secular humanist -- and between the lines, sounds like an atheist -- and his stepfather was a Moslem (the late Barack Obama Sr., a Moslem-raised but non-religious Kenyan
Spent time in both Muslim and Catholic schools In Indonesia
Thus, U.S. Senate candidate for Illinois Barack Obama in a campaign contribution by Chicago Sun-Times columnist Cathleen Falsani [1]. (Obama's supporters include not only constituents and corporations giving him monetary contributions, but scores of alleged journalists who see their job as doing everything in their power to get him elected.)
In an earlier article in TheRant.us [2], I showed how Obama, an Illinois state senator representing the South Side of Chicago, is a far-left politician who seeks to force ever more socialist and racist laws and
programs on the American people.
It may be worth examining the spiritual world of this rising national player.
After emphasizing the transcendence of Obama's Christianity, Cathleen Falsani would appear to contradict herself, by claiming that "Obama's theological point of view was shaped by his uniquely multicultural
upbringing."
Since his mother was a secular humanist -- and between the lines, sounds like an atheist -- and his stepfather was a Moslem (the late Barack Obama Sr., a Moslem-raised but non-religious Kenyan economist, deserted his family when his son was only two years old), how would that shape the faith of someone who, according to Falsani, "is unapologetic in saying he has a 'personal relationship with Jesus Christ'"?
I say, appears to contradict herself, since Falsani's column makes a gruel of Christianity.
Obama the Christian is a devout believer in unlimited abortion rights. He denies the existence of Hell. He came to Christianity through social organizing with activist religious. His devout Christianity derives from the
secular humanist "values" his atheist mother imbued him with.
He believes, with all his heart, in the separation of church and state - except when he reportedly campaigns in black churches, in violation of that separation, and
of the tax code. (According to U.S. tax law, any house of worship that permits politicians to campaign within its walls, loses its tax-exempt status. But then, as another Chicago politician, Cong. Jesse Jackson Jr., announced on radio talk show Nashville This Morning in October, 2000, the separation of church and state and the tax code simply don't apply to blacks.) Obama wears his religion on his sleeve in black churches, but in dealing with the mainstream media, criticizes such behavior.
Once Obama is safely ensconced in the U.S. Senate, he knows that his black base will stick by him, for richer or for poorer, for better or for worse. Then he will begin the sort of "education" of the Christian black electorate
in matters of same-sex marriage, that black leaders earlier conducted in the matter of abortion.
Keep in mind the parallels between Obama, his black constituency, and the Democrat Party. {{{As black Chicagoans have suffered less and less under racism, they have become increasingly racist.}}}
{{{Apparently, the only thing that the "Christianity" of Barack Obama, Fr. Pfleger, the Rev. Wright and the Rev. Meeks forbids, is voting Republican. }}}
"Wikipedia.com states that Obama had an Indonesian stepfather -- and Obama spent 10 years of his childhood growing up in Indonesia.
Here's from wikipedia on Obama, but there's a bunch more at the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
Early life
Barack Obama was born at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii. His parents were economist Barack Obama, Sr., of Kenya and S. Ann Dunham, a Honolulu resident who was born in Kansas. At the time of Obama's birth, both his parents were students at the East-West Center at the University of Hawaii at Manoa.
When Obama was two years old, the couple was divorced and Ann Obama then married another East-West Center student from Indonesia. The family then moved to Jakarta, where Obama's half-sister Maya was born (another half-sister, the daughter of Obama's father by a later marriage, lives in Nairobi). When Obama was ten, he returned to Hawaii under the care of his grandmother Madelyn Dunham. He was enrolled in the fifth grade at Punahou School, a prestigious academy that once taught the Hawaiian royal family. There he graduated with honors.
Obama reflected on his years in Hawaii and wrote, "The irony is that my decision to work in politics, and to pursue such a career in a big Mainland city, in some sense grows out of my Hawaiian upbringing, and the ideal that Hawaii still represents in my mind."
{{{"My concern, in fact my fear, is that he has too much sympathy for islam. Considering that Indonesia is about 80 - 85% moslem." }}}
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39764
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1183929/posts
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040531fa_fact1
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Darn Skippy I will be out to support Alan and work on his election!!!
No, you don't have to look all that hard, I just went to Keyes' speech archives.
By the way, I quoted Keyes, in his entirety, and posted very little commentary, if any, along with the quotes, you arrived at the conclusion that it made Keyes look bad all by yourself.
Telling.
Maybe, that's not important.
I support the GOP, and I am sounding the clarion call to any who listen so that when Keyes begins his screed about how the GOP abandoned him, and how his loss is their fault, I can remind everyone that some of us here, saw it coming.
Well, that just about covers Keyes to a "t".
Is this a rally where anybody can show up to give support to Alan Keyes? If so, I just might attend.
In different states?
You mean nobody taught you the secret handshake?
"I'd rather have a president who errs on the side of defending this country, and going after our enemies, than somebody like John Kerry who wants to sit on his butt and does nothing while Americans die."
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intr.v. erred, err·ing, errs
Obviously, in Alan Keyes mid, Bush made a mistake (erred) by going into Iraq.
My original statement stands; Keyes is critical of the war in Iraq.
"COLMES: Can you tell me what George W. Bush has done that's good for the African American community?
KEYES: I think the most important thing that G. W. Bush has done is what he's done that's good for America: he has stood against this country's enemies. I don't remember on September the 12th that we counted the bodies in terms of who was black and who was white. Thank God that day we remembered that we were all of us Americans--and G. W. Bush has been a president standing against that evil for the sake of all Americans, and that's what I think people will appreciate.
http://renewamerica.us/archives/media/interviews/04_07_12hc.htm"
This is the kind of common sense reasoning folks from Illinois and all America need to hear. It is the perfect answer to the faulty logic and rhetoric of the Liberals like Colmes, who almost never use logic and reasoning in their debate, just Party line rhetoric and spin.
In addition, as I stated on another thread on this subject:
"ALL FREE REPUBLIC lovers of liberty should be thrilled when an articulate person steeped in an understanding of America's Constitutional republic and the philosophy expressed in the Declaration of Independence gets a chance to be heard by hundreds of thousands of people.
"Let's not quibble about the win/lose question right now. Hadn't the election already been virtually conceded to Obama when Ryan dropped out? If so, let's just be glad that a controversial, outspoken advocate for liberty has a chance to be heard. Who knows, some future young leader may be influenced by the reasoned arguments Keyes will use to rebut the Liberal Left politics of the Democrats.
"Every voice for the Founders' philosophy is needed right now. Keyes, by education and by talent and devotion to the Constitution, needs to be heard. Let him have the pulpit! Give him the vote. Fresh air and sunshine are needed--and the young rising star of the Liberal Left may learn some new debating skills, and a thing or two about America's founding philosophy too."
Alan Keyes is a 21st Century man who holds deeply to the philosophy of Washington, the Adamses, Madison, Jefferson, and all the other geniuses who made the 'miracle of America' come into being. Not only does his Harvard education in constitutional government qualify him for expounding on that philosophy, but he has a Creator-endowed intellect and ability to articulate principles that few others possess. More power to the Illinois GOP for its courage in putting him opposite Obama in the debate arena!!
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