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Keyes to Announce Candidacy at Sunday Rally (Arlington Heights, Illinois)
Illinois Leader ^ | August 6, 2004 | The Leader-Chicago Bureau

Posted on 08/06/2004 3:55:06 PM PDT by Mini-14

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To: churchillbuff

Why?

Because I refuse to play pretend with you girls?

Reality is reality, and ignoring reality is for losers.


161 posted on 08/08/2004 7:24:45 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: churchillbuff
"Seems pretty clear he wants the Dems to win the Illinois senate seat."

"Wants"?

Go ahead, you stop it from happening.

162 posted on 08/08/2004 7:25:27 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
By the way, you consulted a thesaurus, not a dictionary

Here's the reference in question.

Note, please, the heading, which for ease of reading I will reproduce below:

Find It! First, Fast and Free!
English Dictionary - With Multi-Lingual Search

Note also the presence of a definition and the absence of synonyms.

Now this leads us to a question: should you keep posting in the hope of eventually getting something right, or should you just stop digging? (Yes, I am aware that you probably aren't holding a shovel right not. It's those idioms again.)

but don't let the "English as a second language" kid correct you on the use of OUR language.

I wasn't planning on it, but thanks for the admonition.

You may recall that I corrected your misapprehension of Keyes' usage.

163 posted on 08/08/2004 7:28:39 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: A.J.Armitage
"Your Query of 'err on the side of something' Resulted in 1 Matches"

You consulted a dictionary on an entire phrase?

dic·tion·ar·y Listen: [ dksh-nr ]
n. pl. dic·tion·ar·ies


  1. A reference book containing an alphabetical list of words, with information given for each word, usually including meaning, pronunciation, and etymology.
  2. A book listing the words of a language with translations into another language.
  3. A book listing words or other linguistic items in a particular category or subject with specialized information about them: a medical dictionary.
  4. Computer Science a. A list of words stored in machine-readable form for reference, as by spelling-checking software. b. An electronic spelling checker.

A dictionary defines words, not phrases...see, now you can walk away knowing that you learned something new tonight.

No charge.

164 posted on 08/08/2004 7:31:59 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You consulted a dictionary on an entire phrase?

Actually I consulted Google, which lead me to the dictionary, but no matter.

A dictionary defines words, not phrases...see, now you can walk away knowing that you learned something new tonight.

So lemme get this straight. You take the definition's reference to words to positively exclude phrases, therefore making anything including definitions of phrases other than a real dictionary. Slight problem: if you really believe that, the dictionary you just quoted isn't a real dictionary, since it also defines phrases.

Like this. Or this. Or this.

Now dictionary.com got the definition you cited from the American Heritage. I have a copy on my desk. I opened it at random, and on one page I see definitions for: jump bid, jumper cable, jumping bean, jumping jack, jumping mouse, jumping-off place, jump seat, junction box, June beetle, Jung Carl Gustav, jungle fever, jungle fowl, jungle gym, junior collage, junior high school, and junior varsity.

So it seems that by your weird interpretation, the definition you cited is itself from a fake dictionary!

And even aside from that, "not a real dictionary" does not equal "a thesaurus", leaving that egg firmly on your face (this is also an idiom, so don't bother telling me the state of your literal face).

And even aside from that, it's firmly established that you bungled the meaning of "err on the side of _______", and therefor the meaning of Keyes' remarks, leaving the original egg still on your forehead.

165 posted on 08/08/2004 9:07:56 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: EternalVigilance

Luis Gonzalez's harping on Keyes is really unbelievable. When the GOP decides to endorse a candidate, for the good of the Party, Republicans ought to rally around the candidate in support. Illinois Republicans want Alan Keyes as their candidate; after the disenchantment caused by the Ryans and other watered-down Republicans, they want someone they can actually believe in again. That man is Alan Keyes and the Republican leadership in Illinois listened to the voices of Republican voters.

I was at the Keyes rally today in Arlington Heights and can assure you that the GOP actually severely underestimated the actual amount of people expected to show up at the acceptance speech. Easily, several hundred people were there and by the time the actual acceptance speech started, people had to line up outside the doors of the Wellington, because the place was filled up past capacity. The Republican voters in Illinois are thrilled that such a prolific speaker and true visionary was called upon to challenge Obama. The crowd was enthusiastic and supportive. The debates between Keyes and Obama will be heard not only throughout the state of Illinois, but throughout the entire nation. This election is truly one of ideas and will be remembered in history, as the Lincoln-Doulgas debates are.


166 posted on 08/08/2004 9:52:49 PM PDT by Valentine_W
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"Two days ago, I couldn't find one single item on Google confirming Keyes' statemt about Hillary, today, the quote returned 271 hits. It may not mean anything to you, but it's going to mean a whole lot to the voters in Illinois."

Alan Keyes was personally asked by Republican leadership in Illinois to run against Obama. No one asked Hillary--she basically cherry-picked a state where she would actually be able to win. Keyes didn't come looking for the nomination, but was practically begged by Illinois GOP leaders to run. After Alan Keyes actually looked at Obama's record, challenging him wasn't just a choice, but as he stated, "an obligation."

167 posted on 08/08/2004 9:56:00 PM PDT by Valentine_W
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To: Valentine_W

I was also there, and concur with your take.

Good report, and I think you have the view that is held by the vast majority of Illinois Republicans.

The trash-talking Keyes-haters here will fail miserably in their attempt to pull Alan down to their level.

The Dems are scared. Liberals in general are scared.

They sense that they have a real race on their hands.

Peter Fitzgerald pointed out that when he ran for the Senate, he didn't have a fraction of the people, or anywhere near the kind of excitement that Dr. Keyes is already generating.

This is looking real, real good.


168 posted on 08/08/2004 10:05:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Impossible' is the favorite word of cowards...nothing is impossible with God...)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"If you were running Obama's campaign, why on Earth would you legitimize Keyes' candidacy by agreeing to a debate? After all, all that Obama has to do for the next 80+ days is raise the issue of Keyes' lack of connection with the people and issues of Illinois, and the legitimacy of his candidacy."

You must not have studied Obama throughout his political career. He will debate Alan Keyes; his pride would lead him to no other end and Illinois voters will expect no less.

169 posted on 08/08/2004 10:08:10 PM PDT by Valentine_W
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To: EternalVigilance
"I was also there, and concur with your take."

That is great to hear; I am glad that I made the trip down to Arlington Heights too, although the banquet hall was too stifling warm.

170 posted on 08/08/2004 10:39:51 PM PDT by Valentine_W
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To: churchillbuff
What gives with L.G.? Is he a Rockefeller Republican - a RINO - or an out-and-out Democrat?

The safe money's on him being a troll...

171 posted on 08/09/2004 8:26:38 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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