Posted on 08/03/2004 12:09:31 PM PDT by dead
why do you guys keep banning me? (Zot! Because we can) (Juwish modz totally rewl!)
Not even close.....
10,954 posted on 08/03/2004
I can. I've been studying him for 16 years. Saddam made no secret of the fact that he donated ground for taining, funded and exported terrorism. That alone made him a prime target of the war on terror as outlined by the president after 9/11/01.
IMO, the administration erred seriously in allowing the left to twist the terrorism question into nothing but a WMD question. The wisdom was that listing all the reasons would confuse the average American. Instead what the administration did was play into the left's hands.
Saddam was in material breach of UN Security Council Resolution 1441: he did not account for his missing WMD, intimidated inspectors, bugged their offices and his operatives were uncooperative and unhelpful (source, Hanx Blix) Those weapons remain unaccounded for.
Saddam violated 1141 again when he ordered a UN sanctioned and sealed U2 fired on, after agreeing to allow a run....but I don't know if anyone remembers that. The UN was pathetically eager to believe his "it was an honest mistake" explanation.
In fact, Saddam was in material breach of every single UN resolution through his refusal to comply. He was thereby in material breech of the terms of his surrender agreement. ,p>For 12 years the world played cat and mouse games with Saddam while he and corrupt officials, media personalities and corperations profited from the oil for food scam. In the meantime, he was free to export terrorism and cause thousands of deaths a year while paying foreign media types and politicians to spread his particular brand of Soviet style propaganda and keep his benevolent self in power, while causing untold suffering to his own people.
During that 12 years he was an exceptional threat to the stability of the Mideast.
You may believe Iraq is better off without Saddam. That's true. The world is safer and better off without him, too. It will take a long time to begin reversing the damage Saddam did.
I wanted him out of office for Waco, Ruby Ridge and the illegal war in Kosovo,
Just for the record, Ruby Ridge is not something you want to cite as a reason that Clinton should have been impeached.
Randy Weavers wife and son were dead and buried 6 months before he took office.
You really are all talk, no substantive arguments. You had an open forum to sway us to your beliefs, and you've failed miserably. All you do, ad nausea, is cut and paste, and link. Do you have any original thoughts? Can you answer the questions presented without referring to some article you've wrote months ago? Or are you just trying to gin up hits to your web site?
Well, so much for that. From 'I'm ready to rumble with the Right!', to 'I have to go to my trivia night.' And in between, a spamathon, of links to the Voice, and his book on Goldwater. This must be the way people feel when they get a Maria Carey CD, for Christmas.
Dead, I've gotten to about post 300. Can you give me the Cliffs notes? Has he presented a case, should I continue reading this thread? Or is it more cut and past blather? So far a big bust IMO. What's your oppinion?
thanks. your tags were pretty solid, too.
now, let us dissolve this mutual admiration society and hie hence to the Undead Thread, where the ladies are going for the elevenkayth post.
There was a 50-50 split in the Senate for the first two years of Bush's term. Does the name "Jim Jeffords" ring any bells.
Funny.
The democratic Senators have held up confirmation votes for federal judges based strictly on prejudged ideologies and hatred of Christians!) for three years now..........
A willful lie or ignorance?
From the report:
We have discovered dozens of WMD-related program activities and significant amounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations during the inspections that began in late 2002. The discovery of these deliberate concealment efforts have come about both through the admissions of Iraqi scientists and officials concerning information they deliberately withheld and through physical evidence of equipment and activities that ISG has discovered that should have been declared to the UN. Let me just give you a few examples of these concealment efforts, some of which I will elaborate on later:
A clandestine network of laboratories and safehouses within the Iraqi Intelligence Service that contained equipment subject to UN monitoring and suitable for continuing CBW research.
A prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing of BW agents, that Iraqi officials working to prepare for UN inspections were explicitly ordered not to declare to the UN.
Reference strains of biological organisms concealed in a scientist's home, one of which can be used to produce biological weapons.
New research on BW-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF), and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin were not declared to the UN.
Documents and equipment, hidden in scientists' homes, that would have been useful in resuming uranium enrichment by centrifuge and electromagnetic isotope separation (EMIS).
A line of UAVs not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 km, 350 km beyond the permissible limit.
Continuing covert capability to manufacture fuel propellant useful only for prohibited SCUD variant missiles, a capability that was maintained at least until the end of 2001 and that cooperating Iraqi scientists have said they were told to conceal from the UN.
Plans and advanced design work for new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1000 km - well beyond the 150 km range limit imposed by the UN. Missiles of a 1000 km range would have allowed Iraq to threaten targets through out the Middle East, including Ankara, Cairo, and Abu Dhabi.
Clandestine attempts between late-1999 and 2002 to obtain from North Korea technology related to 1,300 km range ballistic missiles --probably the No Dong -- 300 km range anti-ship cruise missiles, and other prohibited military equipment.
2. The 9/11 Commission says there is no evidence. The staff report of the 9/11 commission concluded that there was "no credible evidence" that Hussein and al-Qaeda were collaborating. According to the commission, Bin Laden was hostile to Hussein's secular government and Hussein never responded to requests for help in providing training camps or supplies.
A willful lie or ignorance?
The 9/11 Commission made a finding that there was no evidence that Iraq collaborated in 9/11. They also stated that their did not "appear" to be a concrete connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq on attacks on the United States. But despite that statement the report is replete with contacts between Iraq and bin Laden and it is known that bin LAden, like Nidal and Abbas was offered sancturay in Iraq. So much for the secular/jihadist bs. Did you read the report or did you just go see Michael Moores pack of lies?
3. Colin Powell says there is no evidence. In January, Colin Powell said there was no "concrete evidence" of a connection between Hussein and al-Qaeda.
Colin Powell is contradicted by the 9/11 Commission and the Senate Intelligence Committee.
4. The U.N. says there is no evidence. Michael Chandler, The chairman of the Security Council group monitoring sanctions against al-Qaeda said there was "no evidence of a link between the terrorist organization and the former Iraqi government of Saddam Hussein."
I don't comment on the UN morons.
Or are you just trying to gin up hits to your web site?
And getting some folks here at each others throat .
Oops. I'll take your word for it. Got the dates mixed up. OK, I still wanted him out for Waco and Bosnia.
Without going into a discussion of the 1960 West Virginia Presidential election, here is one take on the Democratic idea of how to do a manual recount successfully (for the Democrats):
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Monday, November 13, 2000
Does this mean that Carter's Secret Service protection has been withdrawn?
Hmmmm, good point. Thanks for bringing that up.
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