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Ready to rumble? Village Voice Author, Rick Perlstein, Here to Debate the Freeper Horde
08/03/2004 | Rick Perlstein

Posted on 08/03/2004 12:09:31 PM PDT by dead

Opening Statement

Dear FRiends:

I once suffered two great frustrations in being a freelance political writer. First, the loneliness: you put an article out there, and you might as well have thrown it down a black hole for all the response you get. Second, the ghettoization: when you do get response, it would be from folks you agree with. Not fun for folks like me who reliish--no, crave and need--political argument.

Then came the Internet, the blogs--and: problem solved.

I have especially enjoyed having my articles in the Village Voice posted on Free Republic by "dead," and arguing about them here. The only frustration is that I never have enough time--and sometimes no time--to respond as the threads are going on. That is why I arranged for an entire afternoon--this afternoon--to argue on Free Republic. Check out my articles and have at me.

A little background: I am a proud leftist who specializes in writing about conservatives. I have always admired conservatives for their political idealism, acumen, stalwartness, and devotion. I have also admired some of their ideas--especially the commitment to distrusting grand social schemes, and the deep sense of the inherent flaws in human nature. (To my mind the best minds in the liberal tradition have encompassed these ideals, while still maintaining that robust social reform is still possible and desirable. My favorite example is the Protestant theologian Reinhold Niebuhr, author of the Serenity Prayer and a great liberal Democrat.)

Lately, however, I've become mad at the right, and have written about it with an anger not been present in my previous writings. It began with the ascension of George Bush, when I detected many conservatives beginning to care more about power than principles. The right began to seem less interesting to me--more whiny, more shallow--and, what's more, in what I saw as an uncritical devotion to President Bush, often in retreat from its best insights about human nature.

I made my strongest such claim in a Village Voice article two weeks ago in which I, after much thought, chose to say conservatism was "verging on becoming an un-American creed" for the widespread way conservatives are ignoring the lessons of James Madison's great insights in Federalist 51 that in America we are supposed to place our ultimate trust in laws, not men.

Finally, in what I see as the errors of the Iraq campaign, I recognize the worst aspects of arrogant left-wing utopianism: the idea that you can remake a whole society and region through sheer force of will. I think Iraq is a tragic disaster (though for the time being the country is probably better off than it was when Saddam was around--but only, I fear, for the time being).

I am also, by the way, a pretty strong critic of my own side, as can be seen in my latest Village Voice piece.

So: I'm yours for the day--until 7:10 pm CST, when I'm off to compete in my weekly trivia contest at the University of Chicago Pub. Until then: Are you ready to rumble?

Respectfully,
Rick Perlstein


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Village Voice writer Rick Perlstein to defend his liberals positions against all Freepers

Here are all of Rick Perlstein's articles posted over the last year or so:

09/16/03 - Come Out Fighting (George Bush is dangerous and it’s patriotic to destroy him)

12/02/03 - Attention, Wal-Mart Voters: Lost Jobs and Military Funerals Haunt Bush in the Heartland

01/13/04 - Last Copter Out of Baghdad: Bush Flees Iraq Mess On The Campaign Express

05/03/04 - The Divine Calm of George W. Bush: Iraq's a mess, half the country hates you - just keep praying!

05/18/04 - The Jesus Landing Pad: Bush White House checked with rapture Christians before latest Israel move

07/21/04 - Church of Bush: What liberal infidels will never understand about president

1 posted on 08/03/2004 12:09:32 PM PDT by dead
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To: dead

checking in : )


2 posted on 08/03/2004 12:10:54 PM PDT by alisasny ("I will leave no hampster behind" John F'en Kerry : ))
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To: #3Fan; AAABEST; alisasny; Always Right; AmericanChef; AmishDude; an amused spectator; Arpege92; ...

For those interested (and probably a few who aren't).


3 posted on 08/03/2004 12:11:17 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead
Village Voice writer Rick Perlstein to defend his liberals positions against all Freepers

I bet he can't do it without name calling.

4 posted on 08/03/2004 12:11:40 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: dead
Mr. Perlstein,

As best I can remember I have not ready any of your works so I am not in a position to engage you. But I thank you for giving the opportunity to those who have. Thanks!

5 posted on 08/03/2004 12:12:27 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: dead; EllaMinnow

Thank you for the alert!

Pinging Ella.


6 posted on 08/03/2004 12:15:52 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: dead

Dear Rick,

What exactly are we excusing repressing and rationalizing about GWB?

Sincerely,

A proud Right-winger : )


7 posted on 08/03/2004 12:16:41 PM PDT by alisasny ("I will leave no hampster behind" John F'en Kerry : ))
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To: dead

Mr Pealstein please respond to this :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1183700/posts

by David Horowitz (one of the more articulate voices of the right) should you choose to reflect on him and his work it might gradually lead you out of the liberal quagmire you have gotten yourself into...good luck climbing out.


8 posted on 08/03/2004 12:16:52 PM PDT by woofie ( I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: Phantom Lord
Marijuana: gateway drug?



9 posted on 08/03/2004 12:17:20 PM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: dead

Who is Rick Perlstein?


10 posted on 08/03/2004 12:17:24 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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BUMPMARK for later


11 posted on 08/03/2004 12:17:57 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Puppage
I bet he can't do it without name calling.

From what I've read from his posts and responses he has not "name called" in anyway whatsoever. Sadly, that cannot be said for some FReepers.

12 posted on 08/03/2004 12:18:13 PM PDT by Archangelsk (Laura Croft is a geek's wet dream and nothing more.)
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To: HitmanNY

...and what is this "Village Voice"??


13 posted on 08/03/2004 12:19:32 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: dead
What's this all about? Perlstein a masochist? And why would anyone want to beat a leftist bloviator who enjoys the pain?

Let's tickle him to death!

14 posted on 08/03/2004 12:20:07 PM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: dead

No time to post now, but, I'll try to join in when I get home.


15 posted on 08/03/2004 12:20:11 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)
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To: dead
"When we think of Bush's character, we're likely to focus on the administration's proposed budget cuts for veterans"

Overall vet spending is up faster under Bush in ~3 years than Clinton in 8. If that is a "cut," I'm Bill Gates.

16 posted on 08/03/2004 12:20:11 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mullahs swinging from lamp posts.....)
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To: dead
"when I detected many conservatives beginning to care more about power than principles

1.) Obviously, the author has not listened to a great amount of conservative talk radio hosts who rail against Bush's immigration and spending policies (just to name a few).

2.) Isn't it intellectualy dishonest to paint a group of people with a broad brush? I thought the left was more open minded than that.

17 posted on 08/03/2004 12:20:13 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh
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To: dead

I take it Perlstein's looking for material for another article?


18 posted on 08/03/2004 12:20:13 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: HitmanNY
Who is Rick Perlstein?

*shrugs*

The son of Mr. & Mrs. Perlstein?

19 posted on 08/03/2004 12:20:27 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (1xy1xx)
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To: dead
I recognize the worst aspects of arrogant left-wing utopianism: the idea that you can remake a whole society and region through sheer force of will

An Ecotopia would worry me too, but I think in the case of Iraq, your concern is unfounded.

20 posted on 08/03/2004 12:20:31 PM PDT by GVnana (Tagline? I don't need no steenkin' tagline!)
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