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To: JustPiper; HipShot; freeperfromnj; nwctwx; Velveeta; grizzfan; Godzilla; judicial meanz; ...

FYI -- Here is one small tidbit of concrete info (one we could guess, but it is good to know for certain anyway).

A contact of mine in NYC (who is legally armed and undercover, but he is NOT a NYPD cop; a transit cop; a guard; or any other security or advance team member; I cannot write who he is) says all they were "officially" told by the Feds is to watch out for clean shaven Arab males. This is surely related only to the building threat. Sorry, that is all I can find out at this time. I am trying to pry out some more info on the building threat and any others... But he is at a Mayoral party this evening. So maybe tomorrow... I know they are told "official" things and then they hear "rumors." I am now ready to hear the "rumors."

Does anyone else have any info/rumor/hearsay/anything to add that you have heard from friends, spouses or other family members in any of your local regions? Or are there any LE strangers you can accost on the street and ask?!!! You would be surprised at the info we might be able to compile based on that. It would help us develop a better picture for how LE and others are operating on the ground.


1,236 posted on 08/04/2004 6:30:53 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Donna Lee Nardo

One thing we can determine from the recent ramp up in security and the collection of supicious people is that the fed's are expecting something to happen sooner rather than later. Planes are being boarded-turned around-and flights canceled. This indicates to me that they expect something to happen way before Oct 2nd.


1,248 posted on 08/04/2004 6:55:18 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Donna Lee Nardo

Thanks for the information. Will report if I hear anything.


1,251 posted on 08/04/2004 6:59:58 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
I'll check around some, I do have some LEO contacts and folks in Congress, but for now I'll just ruminate on what our old buddy EOM said about tomorrow morning New York, Baltimore and Miami getting nuked.

I know it's all B$, but living in a city that could be a literal ground zero in a matter of hours is a little bit unreal.......I have to go back to work next week and I'll be teaching Psychology again, this must be subconscious preparation for that. Yeah, that's the ticket! Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck.

1,254 posted on 08/04/2004 7:01:47 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1A: Any mission. Any conditions. Any foe. At any range.)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo

I am happy to say I have no contacts with FBI,CIA or any law enforcement. RITFLOL


1,257 posted on 08/04/2004 7:07:30 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo; Cindy

I received an email from the Jeddah-Online Yahoo! group today that is a bit disturbing after getting a translation through Tarjim. The original message was sent Saturday and was forwarded several times before it finally landed at JO. I think I'll post the original Arabic over at IH to see if someone can provide a better translation. It may just be a generic religious statement, but the machine translation made my hair stand on end.



Subject: An invitation conceals you the Doomsday

A prayer is a reason in the concealment on you the Doomsday God willing
( oh Allah conceal me over the land and underground and the Day of Judgment )
How much will take from the time so that it sends it to other than ? ¿



1,260 posted on 08/04/2004 7:16:41 PM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (Triskaidekaphobia ? Never heard of it !)
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To: JustPiper; HipShot; ExSoldier; judicial meanz; freeperfromnj; nwctwx; Velveeta; grizzfan; ...
Does anyone else have any info/rumor/hearsay/anything to add that you have heard from friends, spouses or other family members in any of your local regions?

Here's something I just posted on the TERROR ALERT RAISED thread:

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Regarding the stuff I mentioned above, I really don't know very much at all. I sold something to a guy on ebay (some photographic stuff; my hobby is photography). He emailed to say that he'd suddenly been called to Miami on a personal matter for a few days.

I didn't know if I was about to get stiffed, or if the guy was on the level, so I looked into what I could find on him to see what I could see, and in a nutshell, what I could see was that he was a former airline pilot who works for an "aviation major" with a large presence in Miami. They are involved in various "support" roles for "the industry" (and IIRC, for gov't too). I don't want to say much more (not that I know much more) because I don't want to say anything that might help anyone ID the guy. I don't want to violate his privacy. I don't think anything I've posted violates his privacy (I don't think it IDs him or gives enough for anyone to ID him), but I don't want to say anything more about him.

I will repost this on that other thread in response to a post I read that's asking for this type info, and see if anyone knows anything. (Again, not anything to do with this person, but anything to do with sudden "measures" going on in that region.)

I'll ping you to that post too.

Regarding the topic in this thread, I'd add that I'm still kinda stunned by the stuff that was said by way of validating the seriousness of the previous alert -- now, suddenly consigned to the memory hole, as if it had never even happened. I'm talking about stuff like Tom Daschle being visibly shaken by what he'd heard in the classified briefings, and making it crystal clear that the stuff was so serious that even he could not possibly consider that it was politically motivated -- and this was in reply to a direct question specifically asking him if he agreed that it was politically driven.

Now, that was probably the most serious warning/alert since 9/11. And it was certainly presented as such at the time -- and "the time" was at most two weeks ago.

Now, it's just gone, in some Orwellian "who controls the past" style memory sweep!

It's been erased out of the "newsspace".

This is surreal, because when you consider that we're NOW being presented with another "most serious threat since 9/11" incident, you'd think they'd at the very least take the effort to mention the previous alert, which happened DAYS ago. (what was it, ten, twelve, fourteen DAYS ago, give or take?)

Like I said, surreal.

So, what I'm thinking is that when they take the effort to NOT "connect the dots", the one thing that's probably "certain" (as "certain" as these things get) is that "the dots" ARE "connected".

Any time they say "don't look THERE!" my inclination is to "look there". Hey, I'm human. :)

So, IS there a connection between the last alert, which was widely reported to involve a number of tactical nukes IN the USA?

I have nothing to go on but my hunches -- which are shaped by the strange way TPTB are acting, INCLUDING their psychotic "forgetfullness" about the very recent alert preceding this alert -- but, my hunches are screaming yes, there is a connection between the two alerts.

So, there's my two cents.

1,261 posted on 08/04/2004 7:29:17 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
A contact of mine in NYC (who is legally armed and undercover, but he is NOT a NYPD cop; a transit cop; a guard; or any other security or advance team member; I cannot write who he is) says all they were "officially" told by the Feds is to watch out for clean shaven Arab males.

Interesting... I know the training manuals from AQ told the trainees to be clean shaven at all times to avoid suspicion. It is weird that they would put out such a broad BOLO type statement. There are certainly a lot of clean shaven Arab males out there. It sounds like they are fairly worried though, to warn of something such as this.

A friend of the family in customs keeps reassuring me that large scale attacks will be thwarted. He says he is most concerned about isolated truck bombs, SAMs, and suicide bombers (Israeli style). I'm not sure how 'in the know' he is though. It seems that I have surprised him with a few things we have come across here.

1,269 posted on 08/04/2004 7:56:31 PM PDT by nwctwx
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To: JohnathanRGalt; LayoutGuru2; yonif; Destro; All

http://www.islamonline.net/fatwaapplication/english/display.asp?hFatwaID=116788

http://www.islamonline.net/fatwaapplication/english/display.asp?hFatwaID=116754


1,335 posted on 08/04/2004 9:27:50 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
Or are there any LE strangers you can accost on the street and ask?!!! You would be surprised at the info we might be able to compile based on that. It would help us develop a better picture for how LE and others are operating on the ground.

I haven't seen any Little Elves to accost. But if I do I will surely grab the bugger and shake it silly until it tells everything it knows.

I may be stupid but what the heck is an LE?

1,369 posted on 08/04/2004 10:40:43 PM PDT by mindspy
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
Or are there any LE strangers you can accost on the street and ask?!!!

Donna, I just met several Secret Service Agents. It was sooooo cool. President Bush is expected at the Aladdin Shrine Temple for a town meeting in a few hours. The Temple, the airport, and my shop are all within a mile or so of each other. I stopped at the corner store and thats where I seen all these men dressed in black. I ask one of them who he was with and he said secret service. I talked with him for about five minutes - didn't get any juicy information other than they are being diligent. I told him there would be FReepers outside the Temple supporting our President. He grinned and knew about FreeRepublic.

If there are any young women out there thinking about a career, I'd definitely say try to get in with these guys...handsome, handsome, handsome, well built, and whewwwwwwwwww. What a great start to my day. :)

1,477 posted on 08/05/2004 8:10:31 AM PDT by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo

That pic on this thread of UBL was clean shaven


2,056 posted on 08/06/2004 2:05:49 AM PDT by JustPiper ("Ultimately, this war against terror … depends on the eyes and ears of the people of America Pataki)
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