Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat

Don't let the point of my post stand in the way of your rant.

After all, I'm sure I said "I hope our airport screeners take away all possible weapons from the good guys, and let all possible weapons pass through with the bad guys."

Yep, that's what I said, isn't it?

1,021 posted on 08/04/2004 11:18:07 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (I support my Troops and my President!)

Heckle and Jeckle are at it again.

1,022 posted on 08/04/2004 11:20:17 AM PDT by mindspy

Being fired for not being Muslim is against the law. Federal law. Will the goverenment sue?

No. It loves Muslims. Yes BUSH LOVES MUSLIMS AND SO DOES KERRY. Our security policies and border policies prove it.

/angry sarcastic rant

1,023 posted on 08/04/2004 11:21:51 AM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)

To: JustPiper; WestCoastGal; Rushmore Rocks

Glad it helps. Thanks!

1,024 posted on 08/04/2004 11:22:31 AM PDT by flutters (God Bless The USA)

This is a useless post, so skip over it!!

Good grief, I go away for the night and come back to over 600 more posts? Sheesh.

I was cleaning out my dog run this morning, started at 6:45 am... not wearing a watch... but I have a pretty good sense of time, so when it got to be what I figured was around 7:45-8:00, I realized how quiet it was. No cars on my street heading to work... My first thought was that some terrorist attack must have happened and that everyone was glued to their televisions like they were on 9-11.

When I finished up and went inside, turned on the TV and radio for news... nothing. Whew. But the first traffic report said "It looks more like a Saturday commute than a Wednesday commute." At least I hadn't imagined that it was quiet on my street - it really was. Weird.

1,025 posted on 08/04/2004 11:27:27 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (I support my Troops and my President!)

To: flutters; All

Heads up! This posted by Crud at It's Happening:

Captured Al-Qaeda Member Says He Contacted Cells In Us

BREAKING NEWS Intelligence indicates suspected al Qaeda operatives in Pakistan "contacted" at least one person in the U.S. in recent months, sources tell CNN. Details soon.

http://www.cnn.com

1,026 posted on 08/04/2004 11:28:35 AM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo

To: Donna Lee Nardo

FBI Watching Al Qaeda, Terror Suspects In NYC

UPDATED: 1:46 PM EDT August 4, 2004

http://www.wnbc.com/news/3603190/detail.html

1,027 posted on 08/04/2004 11:29:18 AM PDT by freeperfromnj

To: Donna Lee Nardo

Wonder if it was it Moussoui? There's a thread going that prison guard let him use cell phone.

1,028 posted on 08/04/2004 11:30:07 AM PDT by freeperfromnj

thinking they may be plotting against 10 more targets, ABC News has learned.

We were first w this theory.

1,029 posted on 08/04/2004 11:38:25 AM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)

To: freeperfromnj

Don't you wish we knew who these suspected ops were? The article you posted says they are not part of the new threat against the financial buildings.

As far as the cnn news, it will be interesting to see what they come up with and how it relates to all of this.

Perhaps the true threat involves multiple plans.

I also worry that when info such as this is released it may cause the thugs to speed up their plans.

Excerpt from the article you posted:

"The FBI is monitoring suspected Al Qaeda operatives and members of two allied terror groups in the New York City area, the top-ranking FBI official in New York said Tuesday.

Pasquale D'Amuro, head New York office and a veteran terrorism investigator, said the individuals under scrutiny include people linked to al-Qaida as well as Ansar al Islam and the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, the New York Daily News reported.

He said the monitoring began long before last weekend's heightened alert was announced. While officials have said in the past that they were watching a handful of al-Qaida suspects in the country, they have not said they were in the New York metropolitan area.

The people under FBI surveillance inside the United States include financiers for Ansar al-Islam, the senior Justice Department official said. These people and others described as operatives of al Qaida and Egyptian Islamic Jihad have not been directly linked to any specific threat against U.S. financial buildings."

1,030 posted on 08/04/2004 11:42:46 AM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo

OK. Good to get some unfiltered truth once in a while.

Thanks!

1,031 posted on 08/04/2004 11:47:15 AM PDT by null and void (Nothing like a near-death experience to change bad habits...)

I'm not going to make any references to jim CROW laws, No I'm not!

1,032 posted on 08/04/2004 11:49:01 AM PDT by null and void (Nothing like a near-death experience to change bad habits...)

According to: hilal-sighting.com

the crescent moon is expected on September 11th for the United States, Canada and South America & on September 12th for the rest of the world.

1,033 posted on 08/04/2004 11:58:09 AM PDT by penguino

well, that one should be proved true or false relatively quickly. at some point, a plane isn't going to arrive.

1,034 posted on 08/04/2004 11:59:28 AM PDT by oceanview

Are you referring to the jakel pic?

1,035 posted on 08/04/2004 11:59:54 AM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo

There is one critical aspect of four or five-year old data that the media has completely missed:

Plans change.

Targets change.

Timelines change.

So, the relevancy of the intelligence may be irrelevant for the specific event mentioned therein, but the fact that PLANNING was initiated, developed, and (quite likely) completed, should be evidence enough that the design is in play.

We're protecting targets mentioned in the intelligence. We should be at a nationwide "ORANGE" for the mere fact that there is absolutely ZERO evidence that these were the only targets, these were the only plans. Was intelligence being developed on the West Coast? Houston? Miami?

We don't know. To limit the security upgrades to NY, NJ, and D.C. is like taking the bait...

Now, there must be some reason for the timing of this alert. There's no political gain to be had by issuing bogus warnings. NONE.

In reading the 9/11 report, Tenet declared that the lights were all blinking "red" prior to 9/11. There was so much overwhelming evidence of a looming attack (either dom. or overseas) that it was wearing agents down psychologically. They didn't know when, or how. They had an idea of planes, but not as weapons. The so-called "wall" between intelligence agencies made it nearly impossible to share information and come up with a concise scenario. Intelligence was expecting either foreign terrorists in foreign countries or domestic terrorists (likely of Arab origin) striking in the U.S. They didn't consider that it would be foreign terrorist striking in the U.S. They couldn't. They couldn't pool information or gain access to domestic intelligence without a battery of lawyers to sign off on it.

I take these warnings seriously. A successful war on terror is one in which there is no evidence of terror to the public. These hard-working individuals in DHS and the alphabets are doing a job for which they will never receive any credit for succeeding in. They are only guaranteed the stigma of "failure" when the inevitable attack occurs...

1,036 posted on 08/04/2004 12:01:28 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever

To: freeperfromnj

A Freeper just started a thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1185015/posts about the cnn breaking news teaser. But so far there is still no story, just the same teaser they have had up for an hour now.

Of course, some Freepers are already showing their humor on the thread!

1,037 posted on 08/04/2004 12:06:55 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo

To: JohnathanRGalt; LayoutGuru2; All

The following text is an exact quote:

http://internet-haganah.us/harchives/002437.html#002437

August 03, 2004
Ten Hizballah sites now hosted in the US by ServePath.com

The latest site to join this cluster of official Hizballah websites is qudsonline.net

?Here's the list of known Hizballah sites currently hosted by/at ServePath.com:

| Domain Name | Organization | IP |

Posted by aaron at August 03, 2004 11:40 AM

1,038 posted on 08/04/2004 12:15:24 PM PDT by Cindy

August 04, 2004
Timing Of Alert Rather Obvious -- But Not How You Think

The AP's Ron Fournier analyzes reaction to the orange alerts issued this week by the Department of Homeland Security and deconstructs the politics rather adeptly. However, Fournier and many others missed a key issue in the debate over using the so-called "old" material for a fresh alert:
The politics of terrorism has Democrats tied in knots. Each time President Bush raises fears of a possible attack, the political debate shifts from his most troublesome issue to one of his strongest (the war on terrorism) while Democrats fight their impulse to question the president's motives. ...

Campaign officials said Kerry would like to believe that Bush is acting in the nation's interest. Even if he didn't give Bush the benefit of the doubt, there are enormous political risks to Kerry questioning the president's motives, the officials said, because a subsequent terrorist strike would make him look politically craven and shortsighted. Criticizing the commander in chief for putting the nation on alert also wouldn't help Kerry persuade voters that he's tough enough for the job, the officials said on condition of anonymity.

The Democratic strategy is to use the terrorism warnings to raise the ante. Instead of questioning why alert levels have been increased, Kerry and his surrogates have tried to fuel doubts about what Bush has done — or failed to do — to make the country safer since Sept. 11, 2001.

If Kerry strategists are correct, the tactic both undercuts Bush's political strong suit and burnishes the Democrat's credentials as commander in chief.

It's a good analysis, as far as it goes, and I tend to think that alerts such as that experienced this week don't help Bush at all. It may have the salutary effect of reminding people that we are still at war, but as the Kerry campaign obviously thinks, that sword cuts both ways. No matter the cause, people resent intrusions on their daily routine, and a constant undercurrent of threats may well push people to vote for change, just as an emotional reaction. The only real disadvantage for Kerry is supporters like Howard Dean, who come out and make wild accusations that make the opposition look completely irresponsible.

What almost no analysis has addressed, however, is the context of the alerts with regards to the capture of Naeem Noor Khan, the computer expert and al-Qaeda planner whose data provided the basis for the alert. Khan was captured on July 12 but his arrest was only recently acknowledged. Khan held surveillance for a number of financial targets in the New York area, apparently quite detailed, going back as far as three years ago. What we now know about AQ operations tells us that multi-year planning and careful building of teams is their hallmark, and their plans take at least that long to fully mature.

Now, with Khan's capture announced to the world and the collapse of his communications infrastructure to the field teams involved in any of his plans, one likely result will be that individual cells will act on their last orders and launch attacks in the near future. Their ability to coordinate will likely be severely disrupted, as terrorists cells probably have no direct contact with each other, so that attacks occur randomly and not strategically, as on 9/11.

Otherwise, these cells will be left orphaned in the US, and the danger of leaving (crossing the border) will be almost as great as entering. Without Khan's communication network, the cells will have no other way to communicate back to AQ masters or each other, and the lunatics will be forced to disband quietly and assimilate into the American society they hate with such passion. Their money will quickly dry up and with it their ability to do anything on a large scale.

Faced with these two choices, which one do you suppose the AQ cells in the US that Khan controlled will select? Assimilation and surrender, or following the last plan given to them? And given that the Pakistanis have sundered their communications and with it access to new financing, when do you suppose that decision will be made?

Get the picture? If you do, you're smarter than the Democrats, some Republicans, and almost all of the media.

Posted by Captain Ed at August 4, 2004 08:11 AM

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/002181.php

1,040 posted on 08/04/2004 12:27:43 PM PDT by Bobibutu

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