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Why aren't Doctors charged with murder?
Fox News ^ | 8/2/04 | Heff

Posted on 08/02/2004 3:08:49 PM PDT by Heff

Here is part of a Fox News story about the murdered woman in Salt Lake.

Lori Hacking, 27, had apparently learned she was five-weeks pregnant just days before she vanished and told friends and relatives, though Dinse said police still had no proof.

He said if investigators find her body and her pregnancy is confirmed, police would consider bringing an additional charge against her husband.

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KEYWORDS: abortion; hacking; murder
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So, the police are going to bring additional charges against Mark Hacking if it proves out she was pregnant.

Why???

Doctors do this sort of thing every day.

1 posted on 08/02/2004 3:08:50 PM PDT by Heff
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To: Heff

You didn’t know?
Doctors are Saints in Surgical Garb!
(Sorry M.A.S.H.)


2 posted on 08/02/2004 3:14:11 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Heff

Practicing without a license. It is illegal to abort a fetus without the license that says you can do so. Sorta like swabbing an injection port with mecuricome for a lethal injection - the result is the same is it not? He's not gonna live long enough to get an infection.


3 posted on 08/02/2004 3:14:27 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: Heff

Sam Shepard ring a bell?


4 posted on 08/02/2004 3:14:30 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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To: Heff

Doctors are not charged with murder (I assume you are referring to abortion) because they undertake that action with the informed consent of the mother, and it is the mother's constitutional right to have an abortion. Mark Hacking, though, obviously did not have Lori's consent to kill her (and thus the child), so he would be charged with the death of that child.


5 posted on 08/02/2004 3:17:45 PM PDT by johnfrink
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To: johnfrink

So what the law says, then, is that a fetus is human or non-human based solely on the opinion of the mother?


6 posted on 08/02/2004 3:20:31 PM PDT by Trickyguy
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To: Trickyguy

Bingo...we have a winner.


7 posted on 08/02/2004 3:22:05 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: johnfrink

you can be charged even with consent (like "Dr" Jack Kevorkian was)


8 posted on 08/02/2004 3:31:30 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece- "HOPE" : Hand Over Paycheck Envelope)
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To: annyokie

The Fugitive and Sheppard were found innocent in the end, (I think!)


9 posted on 08/02/2004 3:33:23 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: Trickyguy
Well, in a convoluted sort of a way, all the FReepers who argued in favor of Juan Miguel Gonzalez's "right" to take Elian back to communist Cuba, are indirectly in agreement with the idea that the parent has proprietary rights to the child and can thus decide to violate the fetus's right to life; IOW, the child's unalienable rights can be trumped by the parent.

Life, and liberty.

10 posted on 08/02/2004 3:38:24 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

are indirectly in agreement with the idea that the parent has proprietary rights to the child and can thus decide to violate the fetus's right to life; IOW, the child's unalienable rights can be trumped by the parent.
This seems a stretch to me. I believe in parental rights for their child to LIVE with them. Not the same as a "I brought them into this world and I have the RIGHT to take them out". Abortion and me deciding where my child lives seem two different things.


11 posted on 08/02/2004 3:47:14 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Convolutled is a good word for this example. Keep in mind that in the not too distant past, women, children, and slaves were chattle. Men couldn't even vote unless they owned real property.

I believe that a child's inalienable rights CAN and SHOULD be trumped by the parents. My kid's "inalienable right" to pursue happiness stops at the second candy bar, at riding their bicycle on the interstate, and at whether or not they will do their homework and chores.

Somehow, taking a life doesn't compare IMHO to where a child lives and goes to school.

12 posted on 08/02/2004 3:49:27 PM PDT by ConservativeBamaFan (We know too much, and are convinced of too little. --T.S. Elliot)
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Doctors do this sort of thing every day.

But they're requested by the woman to do it. That's also the difference between consensual sex and rape.
13 posted on 08/02/2004 3:49:55 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: ConservativeBamaFan
"Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

Unalienable rights all.

Your child may not have the right to decide where he or she wants to live, but they do have a right to have their unalienable right to Liberty protected.

In which case, should a parent decide to take their child into a life of slavery, the child's unalienable right to Liberty trumps the parent's right.

14 posted on 08/02/2004 3:53:06 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: ConservativeBamaFan

Should the State trump the mother's choice to abort?

And if so, on what grounds?


15 posted on 08/02/2004 3:55:43 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Heff
Why aren't Doctors charged with murder?

Ask Edwards, I'm sure he would argue otherwise. After all, thats how he became a multi-millionaire and you my friend are helping to pay him.......

16 posted on 08/02/2004 4:00:26 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (After 30+ years dealing with idiots, I still haven't earned the right to just shoot them.....)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Not sure what you mean. Do you mean should the state outlaw abortion?


17 posted on 08/02/2004 4:01:54 PM PDT by ConservativeBamaFan (We know too much, and are convinced of too little. --T.S. Elliot)
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To: johnfrink

Doctors are not charged with murder (I assume you are referring to abortion) because they undertake that action with the informed consent of the mother, and it is the mother's constitutional right to have an abortion. Mark Hacking, though, obviously did not have Lori's consent to kill her (and thus the child), so he would be charged with the death of that child.

Really?

Where is this article that states that a woman has a constitutional right to murder, or allow someone else to murder her unborn child?

I'd like to see it.


18 posted on 08/02/2004 4:05:27 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Good night Chesty, wherever you may be.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

I think you know what I mean. There is no explicit right to it mentioned in the Constitution, but that little decision known as Roe v. Wade has enshrined it.


19 posted on 08/02/2004 4:13:37 PM PDT by johnfrink
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To: Young Werther

Now, Sheppard was found guilty and did many years in prison. He was exonerated many years after his death, however.


20 posted on 08/02/2004 4:24:28 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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