U.S. Church Sermons Being 'Monitored' for Anti-Homosexual Views

http://www.LifeSiteNews.com ^ | July 30, 2004

[cpforlife.org]

U.S. Church Sermons Being 'Monitored' for Anti-Homosexual Views

American Civil Liberties Union, Planned Parenthood and the National Education Association behind harrasment

WASHINGTON, July 30, 2004 (http://www.LifeSiteNews.com) -The head of the Christian Seniors Association (CSA) asked U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft to investigate reported harassment of churches in Kansas and Missouri.

CSA Executive Director James Lafferty said a report by the Associated Press and the website of a group calling itself The Mainstream Coalition says it has over 100 members who "monitor" sermons and worship at targeted churches.

Lafferty said he has delivered letters to Attorney General Ashcroft and to the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division asking that federal agents be dispatched to Kansas and Missouri to observe the coalition's activities against churches there.

"Churches in those states are being strong-armed and pushed around because of their beliefs," said Lafferty in a press release. "We want those religious citizens to get the protection they are promised in the Constitution. It is time somebody pushed back at the liberal bullies."

"This is harassment, pure and simple," he said. "Churches in Kansas and Missouri which oppose homosexual marriage go to the top of the coalition's target list for some 'monitoring.'"

The Mainstream Coalition calls itself a political watchdog, saying they monitor sermons for evidence of pastors endorsing specific political candidates -- which is against the law according to the Internal Revenue Service. In fact, the Mainstream Coalition's website reveals its leftist agenda of pro-abortion support, homosexual activism, and anti-prayer in schools, among others. Many of the members of the Mainstream Coalition are current or former members of the American Civil Liberties Union, Planned Parenthood and the National Education Association.

"They don't want to monitor anything; they are there to intimidate pastors and worshippers." Lafferty said. "Christians shouldn't be forced to surrender any of their rights as citizens including the right to public worship and the right to express sincerely-held religious beliefs."

Visit the Mainstream Coalition web-site: http://www.mainstreamcoalition.com/

[longtermmemmory]

They are definitly not mainstream or a coalition.

In the 1940's we called them brownshirts.

It is very aparent the democrat party and their homosexual wing are asking "What Would Hitler Do?" in deciding political strategy.

[cpforlife.org]

Thanks Cindy.

[Cindy]

http://www.truthusa.com/AgainstUSorForUS.html

[longtermmemmory]

We need to find an organization to start reporting ACLU lawyers to their respective state bars. Let them deal with the prosecution of a bar complaint.

With a littile research a few ethics violations should be easy enough to find.

[cpforlife.org]

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out- because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out- because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out- because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out- because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me- and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Martin Niemoeller, Protestant leader, Christian opponent of the Nazis

[KingsKindred]

Heed the words of Jesus about time such as these. Read Matthew 24: 9-13.

[Philistine]

Kerry Compares Civil Rights Struggles of Gays, Blacks

The Boston Globe

Mar. 8--JACKSON, Miss. -- During a campaign swing through Mississippi yesterday, Senator John F. Kerry excoriated President Bush from the lectern of a black church, insisted that New England has much in common with the Deep South, and decried the "crucifixion" of the young gay man Matthew Shepard as he compared civil rights for blacks to gay and lesbian rights.

Kerry, the presumptive Democratic nominee, predicted that "a guy from Massachusetts" will beat Bush in the South in November, and spent the day quoting both Scripture and Bush's mantra of "compassionate conservatism" in denouncing the president for having, in Kerry's words, "the biggest track record of broken promises in history in all the time I've been in public life."

He also signaled a new aggressiveness as the Democratic standard-bearer, attempting to turn recent Republican attacks on his credibility and political consistency to his advantage by charging that the administration had "a Grand Canyon of [a] credibility gap" on a litany of foreign and domestic affairs.

"You talk about 'two positions'?" Kerry said, using a phrase that Republicans have hurled at him. "[Bush is] a walking stack of broken promises, and I'll lay them out to you over these next days. And he's got two positions on everything. We're going to create 4 million jobs; he hasn't, he's lost 3 million. He says we're going to have health care for Americans. Well, we're not, he doesn't have a plan for them."

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/ccContent/269637.htm

[Susannah]

a few links:

Canada. Sweden. Ireland. England. Spain. Now, the United States.

Remaining silent: Canadian Parliament OKs a law to criminalize speech deemed "anti-gay"

'Chill Bill' Passes Canadian House, Makes Free Speech Against Gays a Crime

[Bogolyubski]

The legal profession is dominated by ACLU members. There are some brave organizations opposing them, though. I highly recommend the Alliance Defense Fund, The American Center for Law and Justice, and the Rutherford Institute. These are the folks who are literally like the scrawny David facing the Goliath of ACLU, Soros, Ford Foundation billions. The lawyers who work for these organizations are really fighting fiercely to preserve what's left of our religious freedom.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

I posted an article last week where the churches were also being monitored for political speech. Black churches exempt, of course. The Left blatantly shows video on the news of candidates in those churches. They even raise funds for Democratic candidates. If White churches speak out, the IRS descends like Armaggedon and tries to break them financially and take away their tax free status.

It's getting worse, just as predicted in the scriptures.

[longtermmemmory]

Not so many lawyers are members of the ACLU. I would advise all people to NOT hire any lawyer who is a member of the ACLU. (Is edwards member of the ACLU?)

The majority of lawyers are not even members of the ABA. It is strictly voluntary.

Thanks for the leads though.

[longtermmemmory]

Did somebody report that church?

[AdequateMan]

This is definitely one that needs to be shouted from the rooftops- The ACLU is definitely not for "liberty" when they attempt to restrict people's rights to speech.

Many here have excoriated me for my stance against the constitutional amendment barring gay marriage. Let me be consistent with my principles and also express my total lack of approval for the monitoring of churches by volunteer snitches.

The good news is these people have to sit through sermon after sermon in our churches, silently waiting for one tiny nugget of anti-homosexual speech.

If you're a minister at an outspoken church, and you see some hippie fag looking guys you have never seen before, this is a good time to bring up the subject of how important the book of Deuteronomy is. In detail. For two hours. With four collection calls. And communion. Twice.
At the last moment before the end of services, bid everyone a nice day and remind them not to sodomize each other.

Give them one miniscule tiny nugget which doesn't endorse a candidate. Just enough to have them back next week for the topic of the book of Judges.

Christians are called to minister to these people, but I hope we can do it in a little bit of a vindictive way.

So you know, I am against ANYONE being able to run to some government office to make you stop what you're doing or thinking, unless someone is being harmed.
It applies double for this underhanded weasely sh#t that the left is attempting to pull.

Just think of it- it will be like Moby's troll brigades LIVE in person, where they can't just log in, post a troll, and log off- they have to sit calmly and quietly!


I doubt they'll continue this.

[Dallas59]

So when I'm offended, where do I go? A Mosque?

[nickcarraway]

Why should there be a Constitutional ammendment against what the Constitution doesn't provide for already? If homosexual marriage is to be made legal, there should be a constitutional ammendment required.

[cpforlife.org]

The wise man's understanding turns him to his right; the fool's understanding turns him to his left.
--Ecclesiastes Chapter 10

[Bogolyubski]

There's something many here need to understand about the left. Leftists will always use terms like "separation of church and state", "freedom", "equality", "civil rights", etc. to advance their agenda, The separation of church and state issue gives us a perfect example. To the average American educated in the government school gulag, what sould be more reasonable? After all, isn't this what the constitution says? (No, it really doesn't say that. It says that Congress cannot establish a state religion or prevent people from practicing their religion.)

The bottom line is that all of these supposedly reasonable demands mask an agenda that is actually totalitarian in nature. Instead of the professed objective of keeping the government separated from religion, the actual goal is, in fact, the establishment of a state religion - one that encompasses Marxist ideology, a church where the flock will go to receive affirmation of the righteousness of the leftist cause and of its rulers. That's the reason you will never see Barry Lynn or the ACLU going after a black church who passes the plate for a liberal politician on Sunday morning. That's the kind of church - one that fully supports the dogmas of abortion, homosexuality, sexual license and "non-judgementalism" - leftists wish to see established an officially sanctioned church of the US (This applies to any liberal church, of course, including the so-called "mainline" Protestant churches.) In places like Sweden, if your church does not adhere to the government-approved message, you will lose official status and be taxed, monitored, and subject to arrest and imprisonment should you speak any words against the state religion. That's what Barry Lynn and his pals want to establish here. The last thing in the world they would like to see is real freedom of religion. Slavery will thus be established in the name of freedom.

[AnimalLover]

Ping

[longtermmemmory]

very 1984

[jaykay]

Will the whole congregations be sent to sensitivity training reeducation camp or just the preachers?