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The final cut: Schrade closes, putting 250 out of work
The Daily Freeman ^ | 07/30/2004 | Jonathan Ment

Posted on 07/30/2004 1:39:33 PM PDT by Willie Green

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ELLENVILLE - After struggling through economic downturns, security concerns that made it unlawful to travel with some of the company's products and - to hear neighbors tell it - decades of mismanagement, knife and tool maker Imperial Schrade sent the last of its production workers home for good on Thursday.

Company officials could not be reached for comment, but local estimates were that some 250 employees received letters about the shutdown and left the U.S. Route 209 plant after a 9 a.m. meeting.

By noon, the smell of mildew wafted through the unmanned window of the plants' reception area - a room that at that appeared to have been recently renovated with new carpeting and fixtures.

With crossed arms covering an identification badge, an employee in shirt and tie said the official company comment on the closing was "no comment." An officials statement would be released, he said, though none had come by Thursday evening. Other staff members could be heard talking behind closed doors.

IMPERIAL Schrade, which turned 100 this year and once was among the largest private-sector employers in Ulster County, laid off more than 150 workers last year but had recently begun hiring again.

Employment at the Ellenville plant numbered near 700 in early 2001 but had dropped below 300 in recent months after a series of deep cuts that began later in 2001.

Schrade's 548,000-square-foot factory was added to the Kingston-Ulster Empire Zone earlier this year, and Catherine Maloney, zone coordinator, said Schrade cited employment of 382 as of Dec. 31, 2003.

Among the factors hurting Schrade's bottom line was that knife orders fell sharply after the terrorist hijackings of Sept. 11, 2001, led to sharp objects being banned from airplanes.

TALKING outside a coin laundry on Center Street in Ellenville, Susan Horvath said she used to work at Schrade and that production usually increased at this time of year to meet demand for holiday orders.

"They really did nice work," said Horvath, who worked for the company for about 10 years, ending around 1989.

"I think a lot of them were expecting it," said Winslow Wiggins, another former employee. "Imports really can't compete."

"I worked there four years ago, but only for four months," said Wiggins, noting it was his second job at the time. "I had to take a cab there, and if I was two or three minutes late, they docked you."

DOWN THE street, at a bar called The Other Place, a female patron ordered another drink with, "Howie, you working? 'Cause I'm not."

"She was laid off this morning," said bartender Howie Damms. "Quite a few guys came in. I don't think they'll be coming in now. ... It's really going to hurt our business."

"They might as well put a 'Closed' sign on the whole town," said Mike Barret, also at the bar. "'Shut down due to no industry.'"

"If you don't have a car, you're not going to survive," said Carl Hoar, on the stool next to Barret's.

"Schrade hadn't given them a raise in three years," he added.

TOWN OF Wawarsing Supervisor James Dolaway called it "a sad day in the town of Wawarsing."

"We, as the Town Board, feel for the families that will be affected by this closing," Dolaway said. "It's going to have an effect on our town." Ellenville is a village within the town of Wawarsing.

FAWN Tantillo, director of the Ulster County Office of Employment and Training, said Schrade failed to notify the state Labor Department about the impending closure, and she was surprised by the news because Schrade had indicated a need for more employees in recent weeks.

"We had people here who hoped to get their old jobs back," said Tantillo, a former Ulster County legislator.

Dislocated workers from Ellenville are generally eligible for job training, and will receive it if money becomes available, she said.

Chester Straub, president of the Ulster County Development Corp., said discussions between Schrade and such groups as Empire State Development and the Catskill Watershed Corp. have been ongoing in an effort to help Schrade access money for training or secure government contracts and other resources.

IMPERIAL Schrade's roots date to the 1870s and the Ulster Knife Co. of Ellenville. Imperial Schrade is a combination of that firm, the Schrade Cutlery Co., which was founded in Walden in 1904, and the Imperial Knife Co., formed in 1916 in Providence, R.I.

The mergers produced the Imperial Knife Associated Cos., later renamed Imperial Schrade Corp.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: eeyore; employmentlist; globalism; joebtfsplk; knives; manufacturing; thebusheconomy
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To: TelephoneMan
Well it looks like they don't make good burgler tools.

It sounds like you did get a bad one, although I remember an expensive Buck blade literally breaking into two pieces when I was using it as an ice pik. They did replace it free of charge.

21 posted on 07/30/2004 2:12:50 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: TN4Liberty; Willie Green
This kind of scene has been repeated in upstate New York for years -- and it really is a shame.

To get an idea about how far back this has been a problem, just go back and watch the movie It's a Wonderful Life again. At one point in the movie, George Bailey (James Stewart) points out that half the town of Bedford Falls has been out of work since the tool & die factory closed -- and that movie was set in the mid-1940s!

The 9/11 angle is really bizarre, though. Does anyone really believe that the sale of knives has declined in the last few years simply because nobody is allowed to carry them on airplanes??

22 posted on 07/30/2004 2:15:37 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: reagandemo
"Sounds like a complete failure by top management."

I don't think so. The article never quotes management as saying "We're broke." Management may be shutting down to preserve as much of the owners' wealth as possible. If demand for your product declines to near zero, are you required to try producing different products? No.

Schrade has never produced collector quality knives, but they produced decent a enough pocketknife for everyday carry. That market has been destroyed by zero tolerance policies at schools, no more gifts to schoolboys, and by post-9/11 travel policies, can't carry equals don't need.

It sucks for the workers, but those are the breaks. It's not like management is getting to keep their jobs either.
23 posted on 07/30/2004 2:15:54 PM PDT by Poodlebrain
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To: Willie Green

Just damn. I have an Old Timer 80T in my pocket right now.


24 posted on 07/30/2004 2:33:47 PM PDT by tacticalogic ( Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: Willie Green

Bummer. Some of their stuff is crap. Some of it (like my Uncle Henry Bear Paw -- all wood, brass and steel) is good.


25 posted on 07/30/2004 2:38:47 PM PDT by Lee N. Field
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To: Willie Green

Get 'em while you can!

http://www.schradeknives.com/index.htm

Actually, their online store is offline...I wonder why!


26 posted on 07/30/2004 2:47:46 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Alberta's Child
The 9/11 angle is really bizarre, though. Does anyone really believe that the sale of knives has declined in the last few years simply because nobody is allowed to carry them on airplanes??

I too sincerely doubt it, based on the increase in my purchases of Swiss Army pocket knives for the very same reason.

<]B^)

27 posted on 07/30/2004 3:44:48 PM PDT by Erasmus
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To: Alberta's Child

I agree that there are towns that have close to single employers, etc. But we simply are a mobile society now. People drive for hours sometimes to get to a job, because others are willing to do so. The simple fact is that in this economy, you must be at least somewhat mobile. If not, yes, you will have trouble keeping a job. And if you do, you will be a captive of the company, like the old mill towns. I just think that is a relic from a by-gone age.


28 posted on 07/30/2004 3:45:24 PM PDT by TN4Liberty ("I did not have socks with that document....." S. Berger)
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To: ArrogantBustard

The Kershaw knives I have owned would not hold an edge, and Buck blades are brittle. You would think knifemakers would understand steel a little bit better than those two seem to.


29 posted on 07/30/2004 3:49:47 PM PDT by Living Stone (The following statement is true: The preceeding statement is false.)
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To: TelephoneMan

You beat me to it. Best, sharpest knives I have ever owned. Would'nt even consider a Schrade. Kershaw holds an edge better than any. That's why Snap-On sells them.


30 posted on 07/30/2004 4:08:35 PM PDT by fuzzycat
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To: fuzzycat
I have owned several Kershaw knives although I am not sure that I still have one.

I think all of mine were made by Kai in Japan. They are good knives but nothing extra imo.

The best blades for holding an edge and ease of sharpening are the Cold Steel non stainless blades.

I have heard that damascus is best for this but can't afford the real damascus steel.

31 posted on 07/30/2004 4:16:10 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Willie Green
Hey Willie, send me your snail mail address and I'll send you a Bush/Cheney '04 bumper sticker!

$%^#@# *&^, #@*&(!!

Why, Willie. I'm hurt! I present a heartfelt offer to send you - at no charge, I might add - a collector's item coveted by many, and you respond (via FReepmail) with language normally reserved for Pat Leahy.

I just pray you don't have children to corrupt.

32 posted on 07/30/2004 4:22:58 PM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: TN4Liberty

Good point. Within 25 years, the town of Ellenville may even be part of the New York City metropolitan area.


33 posted on 07/30/2004 4:29:51 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: Willie Green

Thank you for questioning my sexual preferences, Willie (again via FReepmail). While I imagine you are looking for company, I'm afraid I'll have to pass. The Mrs. doesn't like me dating, even out of species.


34 posted on 07/30/2004 6:14:21 PM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: dandelion

Victorinox makes multi-functional knives that are the best tools that mankind can manufacture. They have a website. www.victorinox.com


35 posted on 07/30/2004 6:31:18 PM PDT by RedwM
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To: Coop; Admin Moderator
again via FReepmail

Yes, I replied to you privately.
You apparently don't have the maturity to understand that your deliberately antagonistic, off-topic, personal attacks disrupt the thread and degrade the quality of discussion on this forum. Take a hike.

36 posted on 07/30/2004 6:32:19 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: tacticalogic
Just damn. I have an Old Timer 80T in my pocket right now.

Same here. I've carried that model for 35 years or so. Used them to cut everything from waffles to wire and they just kept on ticking until I eventually lose one and have to go but another. Guess I'd better stock up on 3 or 4 if I can find 'em.

37 posted on 07/30/2004 6:41:23 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: Willie Green
Yes, I replied to you privately. You apparently don't have the maturity...

...says the foul-mouthed pessimist who ran crying to the moderators.

...to understand that your deliberately antagonistic...

Antagonistic? Big word. Does that mean like, say, scouring the Internet to only post negative economic news?

personal attacks disrupt the thread and degrade the quality of discussion on this forum.

An offer to send you a bumper sticker is a personal attack?? Touchy doesn't begin to describe you. And you're concerned about the quality of the forum's discussion. How sweet.

Take a hike.

Well, you do know some other four-letter words. I'm proud of you.

...off-topic...

Okay, ya got me. I was off topic - IF it wasn't you who put "The Bush Economy" in keywords.

Had enough yet? :-D

38 posted on 07/30/2004 7:29:29 PM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Living Stone
I am currently wearing a Kershaw/Ken Onion spring-assisted linerlock. It holds a paper-shaving edge for months.

Of course, you can't do statistics on a sample of one ...

39 posted on 08/01/2004 4:43:46 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Poodlebrain
True, but why did they recently go on a huge building project adding large amount of space and capacity along with contacting the State's Labor Department telling them that they were looking to add workers? Remember all way after 911 and they should have known what their market would do. Sounds like bad planning and management to me.
40 posted on 08/02/2004 5:47:50 AM PDT by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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