Posted on 07/30/2004 8:17:31 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
I am filling out a survey about gun ownership and have been asked about a .50 cal BMG rifle.
Could you please explain to me what this is and what it's used for?
Thank you
Your logon should still work. It took me about 30 minutes to remember my screen name and password. Getting old.
If you haven't finished the survey, a .50 is an anti-vehicle weapon. You'll hear the odd story about snipers taking out an enemy soldier with one but they were designed to be anti-vehicle.
I was banned from The High Road because I rebutted someone who said that the mainstream interpretation of Islam was peaceful by quoting various imams of some of the largest and most important mosques in the world, after a moderator demanded that there be no discussion of religion.
That glass is so cheap you ought to buy two and give me one for my Glock!!!
Same thing to free speech on the radio even though the founders didn't include radios in their original intent.
Ordnance Notes -- by Bob Stoner GMCM(SW) Ret.
AN/M-2 HB .50 Browning Machineguns
The venerable .50 Browning machinegun has been standard issue with the American armed forces since 1921. It has appeared in water-cooled anti-aircraft, air-cooled aircraft (flexible and fixed), and air-cooled
ground (heavy barrel) configurations. The AN/M2 gun is the direct descendent of the M1921. The receiver of the gun is the starting point for the above versions. In addition, the gun can be setup to feed from either the left or right sides and can be fired manually or electrically. The AN/M3 is a modification of the AN/M2 which will be described later. The gun can be setup to fire full automatic or both semi auto and full auto by the addition of some parts.
AN/M2 .50 BMG Water-cooled
The .50 BMG water-cooled resembles a scaled-up .30 BMG M1917A1. It uses a light weight barrel surrounded by a barrel jacket filled with a 60/40 mix of water and ethylene glycol. A packing on the rear of the barrel seals in the water/antifreeze mix at the rear and a packing at the muzzle end of the barrel (muzzle gland) seals in the water/antifreeze mix at the front. The barrel support in the trunnion block is brass, as is the front of the water jacket, to minimize corrosion . The water jacket itself is Parkerized (manganese phosphated). The water jacket is provided with two ports for connection of hoses and a condenser. As the gun fires continuously, the water reaches a point where it would boil away. However, the steam is routed through a condenser to cool it down until it becomes water again. The water is recirculated to the water jacket by convection. Weight of the gun with a full water jacket is 121 pounds. Because the .50 BMG is water-cooled, it can theoretically never overheat (as long as there is water in the jacket). Water-cooling prolongs the life of the barrel, especially when long, withering bursts of fire are the norm. As a result, the .50 BMG water-cooled was the primary light anti-aircraft gun until it was replaced by the 20mm Oerlikon in U.S. Naval service (1942). It was replaced in U.S. Army service by the AN/M2HB for anti-aircraft and ground tasks (mid-1942, early 1943). Most AN/M2 .50 BMG water-cooled guns were converted to either aircraft or ground guns as World War 2 progressed. The water-cooled type is obsolete and is likely to be encountered only in museums.
http://www.mst2-vietnam.info/Stoner_ordnance_notes/stonerhtml/AN-M2.50.htm
The Second Amendment is about allowing YOU to decide what is practical for YOU. What is practical for ME is for ME to decide. I can assure you that the .50 BMG is a fine private citizen gun for ME.
I carry a Kimber Eclipse Target II, with a 10-round mag, plus I carry a spare mag; both mags with 165gr Corbon HPs.
14 rounds should have easily been enough for 4 punks.
M249 5.56mm SAW
This is an invention of liberal courts. The Second Amendment very clearly protects a "right of the people", not a "right of the states".
The case US vs. Miller, typically quoted to establish a "collective right", concerned itself solely with the suitability of a short-barreled shotgun and not at all with Miller's status relative to a state Militia. The error in US vs. Miller is that the Constitution forbids the government from being the judge of what arms are suitable to a Militia.
The poll you are responding to is suggesting that it is legitimate to commit the same error; that is, to judge which arms are suitable for use by a Militia.
In Iraq, our efforts to secure a free state for Iraqis has required that we drop 2,000 pound bombs from miles in the air. If, instead of the US, the Russians had occupied Iraq to enslave them, then who could doubt the reasonableness of the Iraqi Militia using the same 2,000 pound bombs to rid themselves of tyrannical Russians.
More to the point, I think, is that there was no record of any testimony or evidence presented that a sawed-off shotgun had NO military use. The burden would have been on the prosecution.
The alternative is to believe that failure to defend oneself adequately is grounds for remand from the Supreme Court or that a person who keeps and bears arms is guilty of a crime until proven innocent. The latter case applies to Kalifornians today.
That weapon (Oberlikon GAM-BO1) is normally 20mm. (I don't even think they make a 23mm version).
And as it appears to be mounted on a Brit Carrier, it would certainly be 20mm.
Yer arm ain't long enuf!
By the time you put that monster on your Glock you couldn't see through it and reach the trigger.
Got a bunch of gun nuts on this forum!
There was an incident at Fort Carson several years ago where some GI's shot and killed a bunch of deer with the .50 that was mounted on their jeep. (this would have been in the mid-eighties) Needless to say, they got in just a little bit of trouble. I heard about the incident through an officer that was there when it happened. I lived in Colorado Springs at the time.
Those you don't have to lead, they remain stationary. (Well the actual dynamics would be a little more complicated than that :)
"Stationary" is a optical illusion. They are actually moving about 6000 mph faster than you are. Take a tip, lead the target.
With "Gun" in the title.
How come they can get away with calling it a GUN when it is a rifle?
I really never heard of that
Yeah they did.
Most charitable interperation of BAFT Fuster Cluck:
1) Team at from "serving" the forgotten warrant, applied JBT SOP "When in doubt, shoot a dog"
2) Team making unwarranted entry at rear hears this, assumes resistance begins "covering fire"
3) Team at front hears that, assumes same, opens up on building
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