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Boston and New York
Belmont Club ^ | July 27, 2004 | wretchard

Posted on 07/27/2004 8:49:39 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4

The Democratic convention in Boston underscores how deeply September 11 has changed the political landscape for diametrically opposite reasons. For many conservatives the attack represented the first shot in a war waged against America. In contrast many liberals felt it was the response to the attack that opened hostilities against America; that there was no war except that which we subsequently called down on our feckless heads. John Kerry's slogan to 'restore respect for America abroad' and to 'make it safer' are an explicit accusation that we have created, or at least amplified the danger which faces us now.

Andrew Sullivan's belief that John Kerry will be Bush -- only a better Bush -- founders on this syllogism: Kerry cannot logically continue Bush's essential strategy, however competently, because according to the premise it is that strategy which is the fundamental source of peril. The honest thing to do; and for many liberals the right thing to do, is to reverse course as decently as possible. Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero believed that the campaign in Iraq served no purpose; and in accordance with his thinking withdrew the Spanish contingent without regard for the consequences to the interim Iraqi government. Whatever else his shortcomings, the Spanish Prime Minister knew how to follow his own argument to its logical conclusion.

Although the exigencies of politics and the need to attract away the conservative fringe (by playing Amazing Grace for example) may keep John Kerry from being forthright it cannot obscure the fact that two opposing, and therefore contradictory visions, are contending for the electorate this November. The first argues that despite the shortcomings of multilateralism, diplomacy and concession, it is still the best way to settle accounts with radical Islam. It will concede that more might have been done to prevent September 11 but it will maintain steadfastly that the alternative, which was to strike at enemies the way they have struck at us is fundamentally wrong and dangerous. And by exclusion it will maintain that whatever the dangers of Clintonian policy the world was safer then than it is today. Ths second point of view will argue that eight years of wilfull blindness; supporting Bosnian Muslims; ignorning the A. Q. Khan network of nuclear proliferation, buying North Korea its own reactors and receiving Yasser Araft at the White House; the whole policy of concession, bought not a whit of safety. It will argue that our enemies are even now on the point of obtaining nuclear weapons to turn against us, and will if we return to the policies of the past. It will concede that there have been disappointments in Iraq, but that by any historical yardstick our progress to victory -- and here is the unique word -- has been steady, irresistable and therefore inevitable.

This post is not the place to argue in favor of one or the other: but to maintain that the choices are distinct. That is why many Democrats want George Bush out with an almost religious fervor and why many conservatives are fighting for his re-election as if their lives depended on it, because they think it does. Current polls show the candidates nearly level, which means that when the choice is finally made in November, the nation will decide by the slimmest of margins which point of view will grip the wheel. The final count will not so much end the series as send it into overtime. At stake are the lives our children -- whose fates will be determined by what we do or refuse to do -- after Boston and New York.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004; belmontclub; electionpresident; gwb2004; johnkerry
many conservatives are fighting for his re-election as if their lives depended on it, because they think it does.

Some Americans think terrorism is a crime to be investigated and terrorists are criminals to be apprehended and tried in court.

Other Americans think terrorism is a tactic used by fanatics who seek nothing less than the death or forcible conversion of all infidels.

These two diametrically opposed world views cannot long peacefully coexist in the same body politic.

Freeper wretchard writes Belmont Club

1 posted on 07/27/2004 8:49:41 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4
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2 posted on 07/27/2004 8:53:17 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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3 posted on 07/27/2004 8:54:33 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Ths second point of view will argue that eight years of wilfull blindness; supporting Bosnian Muslims; ignorning the A. Q. Khan network of nuclear proliferation, buying North Korea its own reactors and receiving Yasser Araft at the White House; the whole policy of concession, bought not a whit of safety.

I would like to see a cogent argument from a lib that refutes that point. Eight years of appeasement, concession, and willful ignorance, brought us 9/11.

It will argue that our enemies are even now on the point of obtaining nuclear weapons to turn against us, and will if we return to the policies of the past. It will concede that there have been disappointments in Iraq, but that by any historical yardstick our progress to victory -- and here is the unique word -- has been steady, irresistable and therefore inevitable.

Or maybe we can just subpoena and sanction our way to universal love and understanding. Anyone that can look at the situation with Islamic terrorists and think that the Clintonian way is correct lives in a world where every story starts with "Once upon a time ... ".

4 posted on 07/27/2004 9:05:13 AM PDT by spodefly (This post meets the minimum daily requirements for cynicism and irony.)
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Wretchard of  Belmont Club:

...two opposing, and therefore contradictory visions, are contending for the electorate this November.

...the choices are distinct. That is why many Democrats want George Bush out with an almost religious fervor and why many conservatives are fighting for his re-election as if their lives depended on it, because they think it does.


Nailed It !

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5 posted on 07/27/2004 9:08:48 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

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6 posted on 07/27/2004 9:11:47 AM PDT by Valin (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Thanks for the ping.

We know a moderate liberal couple. The type that drive you nuts. They work hard, have staye married for decades, go to church and are great parents for their now grown kids.

However, they have a blind spot to the current rats running their party. They still think that their party is for the little guy and America.

They told my wife that they were for Kerry because he will reestablish a dialog with the terrorists and our poor former allies.

She responded, "When the terrorists wipe out Miami, San Francisco and Minneapolis where your children and their spouses live, will Kerry continue to dialoge?"

They just look at her and shrugged.


7 posted on 07/27/2004 9:54:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The pickled liberal princess is Maria Teresa Thiersten Simoes-Ferreira Heinz Kerry !)
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8 posted on 07/27/2004 10:01:54 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Hoserman Makes his Presence Known at the Convention. Hoserman Promises to Rid the World of Evil Conservatives:

Whoops, where is my speach, I dropped it

/Sarcasm off

9 posted on 07/27/2004 10:51:11 AM PDT by sr4402
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