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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Fifteen
CNN ^ | 07/25/04 | N/A

Posted on 07/24/2004 9:37:20 PM PDT by JustPiper

Edited on 07/25/2004 2:39:52 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]




Credit: The Cabal

The title refers to a daily report given to the president of the United States detailing the most serious terrorist threats against the country. To tackle those threats, the government has formed a top-notch task force to infiltrate the terror cells and cut off the danger.

"Every morning, the president receives a list of the top ten terrorist threats - this list is known as the threat matrix."

We here at FR are trying to be in conjunction with the daily reports around the world that involve threats. We try to provide a storehouse of information that takes hours of research.

YOU be the Judge and get informed.


"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat."



Group linked to al Qaeda warns of 'columns of car bombs'

Australia and Italy have received warnings through a statement purportedly from militants linked to al Qaeda that demanded those countries withdraw troops from Iraq.






We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the enemy who wishes to do us harm.



Meet It!
Greet It!
Defeat It!



LINK TO THREAD FOURTEEN


(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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To: MamaDearest
If I were a møøselimb I'd lie awake at night wondering how I'm going to answer the questions:

"What did you know and when did you know it?" and "Why didn't you TELL us?!?!" after he next attack.

I'd know that my life and the lives of my loved ones, and indeed the life of every møøselimb within reach of any American depends on having a VERY good answers to those questions...
1,681 posted on 07/28/2004 12:07:28 AM PDT by null and void (Freedom is written with blood on the streets, not with ink in congress.)
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To: knak

You're a treasure Knak. Wonder if they are pursuing the other sites on the internet who have copies and posts in a manner similar to what they allude here. I'm removing that website from my "favorite places." Don't need it anymore.


1,682 posted on 07/28/2004 12:09:50 AM PDT by MamaDearest (People who disagree don't have to be disagreeable!)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Wouldn't we have expected this from them?


1,683 posted on 07/28/2004 12:30:47 AM PDT by MamaDearest (People who disagree don't have to be disagreeable!)
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To: drymans wife; JustPiper; All
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NEWS (Updated Daily - Click Here.)

"ARE THEY FOR US OR AGAINST US?" (Updated Daily - Click Here.)

LINKS OF INTEREST (UPDATED DAILY.) (CLICK HERE)

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: "ATTACK ON AMERICA!" (Updated) (Click Here.)
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1,684 posted on 07/28/2004 1:16:38 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: null and void

I think (hope) you are more right than wrong!

I don't know how many Americans are alert enough to ask such questions, though.

More are of the type of shoot first and ask questions later, if at all.


1,685 posted on 07/28/2004 1:26:47 AM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES, SOULS AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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Suicide car bombing kills 51 in Iraq

7/28/2004, 5:30 a.m. ET
By PAUL GARWOOD
The Associated Press

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) — A suicide car bomb exploded outside a police recruiting center in Baqouba on Wednesday, killing 51 Iraqis in the worst attack in Iraq since the United States transferred sovereignty to an interim Iraqi government last month, officials said.

The attacker drove a car carrying explosives up to the crowd of people gathered outside the al-Najda station in Baqouba to apply for police jobs, said Gen. Walid al-Azawi, chief of police in Diyala Province....

http://www.nj.com/newsflash/topstories/index.ssf?/base/international-16/109097584290090.xml&storylist=


1,686 posted on 07/28/2004 3:46:00 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: All
Summer is the season for shooting stars
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I didn't know the above but some of the muslims ramblings I have thought they sounded like prayers and this would fit in. They are praying for the sun to burn us up.

But I still think they are going to do some big attack of some sort. Along the lines of the WTC.

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OK I am awake at 6:00 in the morning which never happens. My xm radio will not work no storms and this post and verse came to mind...If in fact one of these sun flares ever hit earth keep in mind the following...
Matthew 24
23 "Then if anyone says to you, 'Behold, here is the Christ,' or 'There He is,' do not believe him.
24 "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.
25 "Behold, I have told you in advance.

Going back to sleep now.
1,687 posted on 07/28/2004 3:52:21 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: MamaDearest

I have all along.


1,688 posted on 07/28/2004 3:53:37 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: liz44040

I'm wondering this as well..

I think JR would consider it fair game for us to discuss the "unmentionable issue" as it is now in the public domain, but NOT to post the copyrighted (?) stuff from the "unmentionable site".

Personally, I think the whole thing is a bunch of pocus. IF there had been a REAL terrorist nuke that was "detonated" off the Atlantic Shelf under a whole bunch of water, we'd have a lot more evidence of it. (Dead/glowing [pun] marine life, seismographic data from all over the place, etc).

This said, I do find it interesting that radio show guests are picking up on the story. Wonder what the background/credibility of the guest on this particular show was. Might be interesting to find out. Doesn't sound like we're talking about some "out there" show on this one. If the story comes to PMSNBC, etc..then it's got teeth.

The absence of all of this says to me that the story is bunk.

Just MHO, and hoping I'm coloring within the lines here on what we can/can't talk about on this subject.


1,690 posted on 07/28/2004 4:59:21 AM PDT by jstolzen (All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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To: BurbankKarl
Some guys have been yelling too....sound drunk.

Drunk people in Boston. Who would have thought. :)

1,691 posted on 07/28/2004 5:10:37 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Cindy

Thanks Cindy for the updates. Sorry I missed you.


1,692 posted on 07/28/2004 5:57:03 AM PDT by drymans wife (Clintoon Saga continues, MONICAGATE, TROUSERGATE, I did not put those papers in his pants.)
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To: liz44040; MamaDearest; jstolzen

Here's the deal for those who missed yesterday. The proprietors of a certain website also publish a copyrighted newsletter for a fee. The newsletter contains a story about the nuke incident that allegedly occurred about two weeks ago. The proprietors of the website/newsletter, directly and/or through shrills and trolls, promoted the story, newsletter, and website by openly discussing it on radio and on various forums including FR, and specifically TM. No one complained about copyright infringement as long as the sheeples said nice things about the article and the authors. Over the last few days, however, several people here and at other forums, challenged, criticized, and attempted to debunk the nuke story. After a several month absence, one of the proprietors of the website/newsletter suddenly showed up hereusing his well known screen name. A flame war broke out, and the proprietor of the website/newsletter threatened JimRob and others with a copyright infringement and defamation lawsuit. Out of an abundance of caution, Mr. Robinson yanked hundreds of threads, banned the antagonizer, and asked us to refrain from discussing that particular website and newsletter. You can agree or disagree with JimRob's decision, but the "golden rule" dictates and therefore, please respect his decision and do not discuss that website, newsletter, or article.


1,693 posted on 07/28/2004 5:59:28 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: jstolzen

The guest that was on the Roth radio show was, Doug Hagman of NEIN. That should explain it. No we have to drop it
or use freepmail


1,694 posted on 07/28/2004 6:03:01 AM PDT by drymans wife (Clintoon Saga continues, MONICAGATE, TROUSERGATE, I did not put those papers in his pants.)
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To: JustPiper; Mo1; StriperSniper; Taxman; Warrior Nurse; votelife; Chieftain
JUST HEARD THIS ON THE RADIO

Driver Pulled Over In Iowa Admits To Terrorist Plans

Flight-Training Manuals, Night-Vision Goggles Found

POSTED: 6:41 am EDT July 28, 2004
DES MOINES, Iowa -- Court papers indicate a driver stopped on an Iowa highway this month was found with flight-training manuals, Arabic documents and night-vision goggles.

According to the papers, he also told troopers he knew of terrorist plans to shoot up trains in San Diego.

Michael Wagner, of San Diego, said he had knowledge of terrorist activities and people and groups tied to al-Qaida and the Taliban. Wagner also said that he knew about things in the Muslim communities in San Diego that would interest federal authorities.

Federal prosecutors have declined to comment on the case. And it's not immediately known whether authorities were able to corroborate his claims.

Wagner pleaded not guilty in federal court in Des Moines to being a felon in possession of body armor and weapons.


1,695 posted on 07/28/2004 6:06:55 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: All
Terrorists spread their messages online
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | July 28, 2004 | Faye Bowers


Posted on 07/28/2004 12:28:57 AM CDT by JohnathanRGalt





Terrorists spread their messages online
A growing number of Al Qaeda websites offer instructions for kidnapping and killing victims.
By Faye Bowers | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor, July 28, 2004
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WASHINGTON - One Al Qaeda website offers chilling details on how to conduct private and public kidnappings. It points out the number of cells essential to target and and hide victims. It details how to handle hostages - force them to taste the food first, for instance. It gives advice on negotiating tactics (gradually kill the hostages if "the enemy" stalls) and on releasing captives (be alert to tracking devices planted in the ransom money).

The Al Qaeda site, called Al Battar, which means The Sword, is posted on the Internet twice a month. It's one of several websites that the terrorist group and its supporters built after the US successfully routed them from Afghanistan in late 2001.

And it is one of some 4,000 websites that, experts say, now exist to carry on a "virtual" terror war - and plan actual attacks.

"When I began tracking terrorist websites seven years ago, there were 12 sites in my database," says Gabriel Weimann, an Israeli communications professor who researches terrorist websites at the United States Institute of Peace in Washington. "After [Al Qaeda members] were chased from the camps, they went to the Internet. They began adding two a day, going up to 50, then a hundred, to thousands."

The rapid proliferation of the terror sites provides a dilemma for intelligence officials and terror experts alike.

Should sites be shut down or be monitored for information that might help thwart attacks or provide information about how the groups are evolving strategically?

Intelligence officials say they try to monitor the sites. For one thing, it wouldn't be easy to close them down. Not just because they are ubiquitous, but because they know they are targeted for shut-downs or being monitored.

"I think it is impossible to shut them [terrorist websites] down completely," says Bruce Hoffman, an expert on terror at the RAND Corp. in Washington. "As a terrorism analyst, it is extremely valuable to have access to the sites."

For their part, terrorist websites try to elude their trackers. They feign closures of the sites, often shortly after they're put up, only to move them to different locations on the Web.

Al Qaeda - and now the global movement of terror groups it has inspired - have transferred most of their activities to the Internet. They use it to recruit, raise funds, perform research, coordinate their actions, spread propaganda, and wage psychological warfare. They are found on traditional websites, and in chat rooms and forums that provide links to additional sites.

"You can [now] have three people walk into an Internet cafe and pull up off an Internet site an understanding of how to put together a chemical device," says a senior CIA counterterrorism official.

The CIA official pointed out how they learned information that was strategically valuable about the cell that set off the explosions on the train in Madrid last March.

"We're facing an adversary that's declined in terms of its capabilities, but that is still highly lethal because they are committed. They've spent a lot of time studying us, and ... don't necessarily require the kinds of sophistication we saw on Sept. 11," he said. The Madrid attack was carried out by extremists "who spent mere weeks planning the operation using the cheapest cellphones, stolen explosives, and using obviously over-the-counter train schedules. And they killed nearly 200 people."

Al Battar, the Al Qaeda site that published the kidnapping instructions, has published several other how-to pieces. There are tutorials on all aspects of explosives, including improvised car bombs; poisons, including ricin; intelligence; and executions - "detailed in scary, scary ways," says the intelligence officer.

The kidnapping tutorial, he explains, is particularly chilling in light of the growing numbers of abductions taking place in Iraq - with a number of them employing gruesome tactics.

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi allegedly posted the video of the beheading of American Nicholas Berg in Iraq this past May. A group in Saudi Arabia - totally with no connection to Mr. Zarqawi - kidnapped and later beheaded American Paul Johnson. They, too, posted a video of the horrifying act. And others in Iraq have since done the same.

It's only recently, intelligence officials say, that Zarqawi became adept at building and maintaining a website. In fact, by monitoring the sites, intelligence officials say they've learned a great deal about his operations - how he patterned his organization in Iraq after the Al Qaeda model.

"He first brought in the logistics people, then the fighters," says another senior intelligence official. "Then he brought in the financial people, the trainers, and finally, the media."

Zarqawi's Internet exhortations target two distinct audiences, according to Weimann. He terrorizes Americans by telling them they will be receiving more coffins containing their war dead. And he calls on his Muslim brethren to join the fight.

But there are other websites, Weimann asserts, that have been around a long time and are in some ways more insidious.

He cites Hizbullah, the Syrian-backed party in Lebanon that for years targeted Israeli occupation of Lebanon but has also morphed into a political party, and Hamas, the Palestinian resistance group that also has terror and political wings.

Hizbullah's site, in particular, Weimann says, is extremely sophisticated. Its site is written in both Arabic and English, and even has a special section for the press.

A more disturbing aspect, he says, is that the site entices children - as does Hamas's.

"It suggests they download computer games, war games," Weimann says. "They look like cartoons or comics, but they are preaching sacrifice and are aimed at recruitment. They show children how to shoot Israelis and US soldiers. "

Weimann, who is writing a book about his research, offers recommendations on how to police the websites - some of which would certainly be controversial to proponents of free speech.

• Modify the Patriot Act to allow Internet monitoring similar to the way passengers are screened for airline travel.

• Apply a social responsibility model to Internet Service Providers. Many of the large ones now, he says, have requirements - no violence or pornography. They could monitor for the promotion of terror as well.

• Form an international collaborative of Western countries, the ones that have more stable, advanced Internet services. They could better monitor or prevent these sites from running terror material.

• Offer alternatives. "Don't leave the stage to the bad guys," he says. "We should be presenting alternatives, compete for attention."

• Use the Internet as a stage for peace and conflict management. "Engage them," he says. "There is no talking to Al Qaeda, but others will join a dialog."


http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0728/p03s01-usgn.html
1,696 posted on 07/28/2004 6:16:06 AM PDT by drymans wife (Clintoon Saga continues, MONICAGATE, TROUSERGATE, I did not put those papers in his pants.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT
"On any given day, 15 million shipping containers are in transit around the world ..."

If the UN really wanted to do any good why don't they start searching these instead of the nonsense they are involved in (but of course they won't since their covert function seems to undermine us.) There is a serious need for oversight of all shipping containers by some entity that is on our side...until they are really searched we are vulnerable.
1,697 posted on 07/28/2004 6:17:32 AM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: cibco

Which radio show?


1,698 posted on 07/28/2004 6:18:15 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: JustPiper
Driver Tells Troopers Of Al-Qaida Plans

California Man Stopped On I-80 For Seat Belt Violation

POSTED: 6:12 am CDT July 28, 2004
UPDATED: 6:31 am CDT July 28, 2004
DES MOINES, Iowa -- Court papers say a motorist stopped along Interstate 80 earlier this month told state troopers he knew people tied to al-Qaida, and that there were terrorist plans to shoot trams and trains in San Diego.

Michael Wagner
Michael Wagner

Michael Wagner, 44, of San Diego, pleaded not guilty Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Des Moines to being a felon in possession of body armor and weapons. Officials said they found flight-training manuals, Arabic documents and night-vision goggles in the vehicle Wagner was driving.

According to court documents obtained by The Associated Press, Wagner told Iowa troopers he had knowledge of terrorist activities and people and groups tied to al-Qaida and the Taliban. Wagner also said that he knew about things in the Muslim communities in San Diego that federal agencies would be interested in.

On July 14, a state trooper stopped Wagner's sport utility vehicle near Council Bluffs after the trooper noticed Wagner was not wearing a seat belt.

Wagner told the officer he had no identification and gave a false name.

Previous Stories:


1,699 posted on 07/28/2004 6:24:43 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Velveeta

Doug Hagman of NEIN was on the Roth Show.


1,700 posted on 07/28/2004 6:24:53 AM PDT by drymans wife (Clintoon Saga continues, MONICAGATE, TROUSERGATE, I did not put those papers in his pants.)
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